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#1 Posted on 2.2.05 2252.50
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Sosa's trade went final. Cubs acquired Harriston and 2 (maybe more)minor leagers. On another note, Cubs signed Jeremy Burnitz to a one-year, $4.5 mil contract. source was cubs website: http://www.cubs.com
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#2 Posted on 2.2.05 2255.30
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Hairston will do well there...

Makes me wonder what becomes of Todd Walker now......

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#3 Posted on 2.2.05 2311.06
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Just an update.... Went to espn.com and they had better info on the contract stipulations. Cubs pay 16.15 of current contract, but if you want the whole stipulations the just click on da link.








THIS IS THE LINK PPL???? CAN YOU SEE ME????
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1981771
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#4 Posted on 2.2.05 2320.35
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    Originally posted by Player to be Named Later


    Makes me wonder what becomes of Todd Walker now......




Would Hairston play left field? That's speculation I heard on the radio.
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#5 Posted on 2.2.05 2330.01
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Originally posted by Player to be Named Later
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Makes me wonder what becomes of Todd Walker now......


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Would Hairston play left field? That's speculation I heard on the radio.


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I've heard that Hairston and Walker would rotate between 2nd and left, with the young guys (Patterson, DuBois, etc.) helping out in the other outfield slots. Hopefully what ends up happening is that Hariston plays right, Patterson Center, and platoon left.



Opening day lineup

RF Hariston
CF Patterson
SS Garciaparra
3B Rameriez
1B Lee
2B Walker
LF Dubois (or whoever else they bring in)
C Barrett
P Wood

Just speculation, but lets hope for a world series in 05
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#6 Posted on 3.2.05 0034.00
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    LF Dubois


Hi, I'd like to introduce you to Dusty Baker.



    Dusty Baker: I hate unproven players! While I believe veterans who were good at one point in their career will soon be back to that high level, I'm not going to entrust my team to some kid fresh off the bus from Des Moines - he's really needs a five year apprentship before I can plug him into my lineup more than once every three weeks. Why, once I gave that kid Wellmeyer three weeks to watch and learn how the other relivers got burned on a regular basis, and the kid had the gaul to hurt his arm once I started pitching him again.

    You may ask yourself how unproven players get a chance to prove themselves to me if I never play them, and I just say - dude, I haven't said dude this entire time? What's up with that.

    Thank you. I'm going to go think about calling Sammy again, before pushing it off for another month.



Sing a long:

1 CF Corey
2 2B Walker
3 SS Nomar
4 3B A-RAM
5 1B D-Lee
6 RF Burnitz
7 LF Hollandsworth
8 CA Barrett

...until Burnitz is hitting .240 in July, and then Dusty will say something to the press like "Hey, you know Jeromy's not good away from Coors Field? And he strikes out a lot?" and then I'LL KILL THEM ALL WHILE SCREAMING "REMMY HAS A REVERSE SPLIT! WE ALL KNEW THAT THE DAY HE SIGNED!!!! WHY DIDN'T YOU!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!"

(I'm thinking, what, 90-72?)
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#7 Posted on 3.2.05 0723.49
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Hairston has ta be in there SOMEWHERE, CubsFan......
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#8 Posted on 3.2.05 1128.00
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Hairston is a younger, more versatile but more injury prone Tom Goodwin. If he wasn't good enough to start for the O's (no offense), he probably shouldn't be good enough to start for the Cubs.

LF: Hollandsworth was told he was starting in left during the off season. (Cool dude that he is, he's said he knows they may not able to keep that promise, and just wants a chance. But I think he meant it in ref to Dubios, not Hairston.) Bottom line is Todd did well for Dusty last season, and Jerry and Jason did not (not being on the team hurt), so they're not getting a shot unless Todd breaks his shin again.

RF: Dusty is already using the indelibile marker to put Burnitz in the lineup every day.

2B: Walker's anchored here.

CF: they still think Cory can be a leadoff man, despite much history otherwise.

There's just no spot for him on a regular basis. Best case scenerio for him is 1-3 spot starts a week at those positions, and a lot of late inning use off the bench, since Dusty won't be afriad to double switch at any of those positions. 110 G, 350 PA.
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#9 Posted on 3.2.05 1158.43
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Hairston is a younger, more versatile but more injury prone Tom Goodwin. If he wasn't good enough to start for the O's (no offense), he probably shouldn't be good enough to start for the Cubs.
Hairston is a guy we are going to miss for his hustle and speed. I always thought he was more talented than Roberts. But Robets could stay on the field, and then led the league in Doubles last year.
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#10 Posted on 3.2.05 1415.22
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Hairston is a guy we are going to miss for his hustle and speed. I always thought he was more talented than Roberts.


Well I'm not going to miss him for either his "hustle" or his speed. I prefer results from my ballplayers and Hairston is injury-prone and hasn't done anything worthwhile over a full season yet, and he's 29 in May. Brian Roberts last year over 641 at-bats proved that while he's no star, he's worth a spot in the lineup at 2B. So there's really no evidence at all to prove Hairston is more talented than Roberts. Hairston's best numbers have been put up over 218 and 287 at-bats.

Hustle is often used as a positive for an otherwise mediocre ballplayer, which Hairston is. He might belong on a major league team and I have nothing against him, but we added a guy who could hit 40 homers in Camden this year at the expense of Jerry's hustle and heart and determination or whatever else he has to make up for his lack of being able to hit the ball past the middle of the outfield, plus two middling prospects.

One thing I keep telling myself: "Earl Weaver is sitting somewhere and he loves this trade." Pitching, defense and the three-run homer? Well we've got one of those down pat. Now it's time to work on the first two.
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#11 Posted on 3.2.05 1851.19
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Of course, Sosa is no good at the three run homer, being particularly bad at pitch selection and striking out. He's also had his share of injuries, so its basically two injury-prone players swapped for each other, one with a far better attitude then the other.

On the other hand, Sosa did provide something to watch for all these years as a Cubs fans, since I got to see Sandberg, Maddux and Jamie Moyer way back when. It's really hard for me to feel good about a trade where we send our franchise player for so many years to another team for no one that good. And we replace his position with someone quite mediocre in Burnitz.

Unfortunataly, it had to be done. We will still compete this year, as the Astros and the Cardinals went quite downhill in talent. We will hopefully have a far better attitude in the clubhouse, which will hopefully help keep Wood and Zambrano calmer, which will do wonders for their actual pitching. I can foresee our team ERA just going straight downlow this year with a healthy Prior (knock on wood), and a calmer Wood and Zambrano, as well as maybe some better relief pitching and hopefully a Farnswort with some therapy. If our pitchers actually play up to their talent level (which they haven't done) this will make up for the loss of offensive output.

And next year, a huge contract is off the books, allowing us the flexibility to resign Nomar and get someone else good, which will leave us in excellent shape.

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