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#1 Posted on 31.1.05 2149.08
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I had a conversation with my sister today. She lives in Nebraska, and she told me that she got a letter from the Election board drafting her to be a poll worker for the next four elections. She said that the letter said that if she failed to appear, she could be charged with a misdemeanor.

Having never heard of this before, I searched on line for info. On the Nebraska Legislator site, I found an explanation of the law. The pertinent section -


    32-228
    Election worker; notice of appointment; failure to serve; penalty.

    (1) The election commissioner shall notify each person appointed as a judge or clerk of election, precinct inspector, district inspector, member of a counting board, or member of a canvassing board of the appointment by letter. Such letter shall be mailed at least fifteen days prior to the required reporting date for each statewide primary and general election. Each appointee shall, at the time fixed in the notice of appointment, report to the office of the election commissioner or other designated location to complete any informational forms and receive training regarding his or her duties. The training shall include instruction as required by the Secretary of State and any other training deemed necessary by the election commissioner. Each appointee, if found qualified and unless excused by reason of ill health or other good and sufficient reason, shall serve for the term of his or her appointment.

    (2) An appointee who fails to serve for such term, unless excused by reason of ill health or other good and sufficient reason, is guilty of a Class V misdemeanor. The election commissioner shall submit the names of appointees violating this subsection to the local law enforcement agency for citation pursuant to sections 32-1549 and 32-1550.


Now, I have always heard that you can be called as a juror if you are registered to vote, but I have never before heard of something like this. Does anyone know of any other states that have this law?

I honestly am not sure if I like this or not. Especially at the $2 an hour rate they pay for the work....
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#2 Posted on 1.2.05 0930.23
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I do kind of like the idea of random people being put in the job, instead of the system where each party recruits volunteers to perform it. Esp. somewhere like Chicago where half the time the Dems end up sending extras over to register as Republican election judges (same thing happens in reverse in the collar counties of Chicago). Perhaps if we make everyone involved be as unaffiliated as possible we might see less election fraud.

And really, one day a decade (figure you could opt people out for say the next 10 years) is really a small price to pay for democracy when you watch the people braving death to vote in Iraq.
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#3 Posted on 1.2.05 1642.26
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I don't like it at all. Two bucks an hour? That's ridiculous!

If anything, they should make it part of a work for welfare program or something like that.
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#4 Posted on 1.2.05 1730.48
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    Originally posted by SOK
    If anything, they should make it part of a work for welfare program or something like that.


I don't think the most powerful nation in the world should be leaving it's elections in the hands of people not qualified to work elsewhere. That's just irresponsible.

That said, $2 an hour is bogus. Up here elections staff are paid a fair wage, and I think that's reasonable. If you want more skilled people to work, it's only fair that they be paid for their efforts. Spreading democracy around the world has been worth hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars over the past few years. Surely it's worth a miniscule fraction of that to ensure that your own elections are conducted properly.
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#5 Posted on 1.2.05 1753.00
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In Fresno County, California, precinct workers get paid $85 dollars per day, tax free. Of course, the checks don't show up in the mail until a month/month and a half later, but that's the wage. I think you have to be there an hour before the polls open, and an hour after they close. I did it a couple of times when I was in high school.
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#6 Posted on 1.2.05 1807.38
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I was thinking that as soon as someone files for unemployment that they should get assigned jury duty. only people with nothing else to do can really afford to miss that much work. Maybe the same could apply to election duty as well. Also, I would actually go in when called if they compensated for missed work, instead of telling them I can't go due to financial restrictions.
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#7 Posted on 1.2.05 1941.24
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    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    I don't think the most powerful nation in the world should be leaving it's elections in the hands of people not qualified to work elsewhere. That's just irresponsible.
No offence, but your retort was irresponsible. I believe that if the government is GIVING them money to live, the very least they should do is GIVE their time to help out where and when necessary. I don't believe someone working fulltime should be dragged out of their job for this, especially when they ARE working.

    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    That said, $2 an hour is bogus. Up here elections staff are paid a fair wage, and I think that's reasonable. If you want more skilled people to work, it's only fair that they be paid for their efforts. Spreading democracy around the world has been worth hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars over the past few years. Surely it's worth a miniscule fraction of that to ensure that your own elections are conducted properly.
From what I've seen, most of the work, outside of the counting, is merely looking at a list, crossing off names, and handing ballots. That's not rocket science.

(edited by SOK on 1.2.05 1843)
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#8 Posted on 1.2.05 2037.28
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Am I the only one who thinks stuff like this is a civic duty and would do it for free? (well, let the county or whoever buy lunch). I mean, as part of a free society that allows people to decide who will represent them, isnt it part of my responsibility to do all I can to ensure that process goes smoothly, if asked to help?
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#9 Posted on 1.2.05 2110.17
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    I mean, as part of a free society that allows people to decide who will represent them, isnt it part of my responsibility to do all I can to ensure that process goes smoothly, if asked to help?






Slight difference though between being asked to help and being ordered to appear or face a misdemeanor charge. Of course, for 2 bucks an hour, I'm surprised there aren't election fraud cases coming out of Nebraska.
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#10 Posted on 1.2.05 2351.47
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Am I the only one who thinks stuff like this is a civic duty and would do it for free? (well, let the county or whoever buy lunch). I mean, as part of a free society that allows people to decide who will represent them, isnt it part of my responsibility to do all I can to ensure that process goes smoothly, if asked to help?


Have you volunteered yet?
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#11 Posted on 2.2.05 1052.43
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      I mean, as part of a free society that allows people to decide who will represent them, isnt it part of my responsibility to do all I can to ensure that process goes smoothly, if asked to help?






    Slight difference though between being asked to help and being ordered to appear or face a misdemeanor charge. Of course, for 2 bucks an hour, I'm surprised there aren't election fraud cases coming out of Nebraska.

I'm not at all surprised that there aren't election fraud cases. Random Joe Schmoe has no incentive to cheat. As opposed to me, who when I sign up to be an election judge as a rabid partisan it is in my best interest to grab 40-50 ballots and cast them for my candidate(s), or to grab ballots that are punched for the other candidate and have them not quite go through the machine right. (note: I have not done any of these things in my times working as an election judge, nor in any other way impeded a fair election).

And really, why is this any worse than calling people for jury duty? To ask everyone to serve 1 day in their life in the service of a functioning democracy really does not strike me as a major sacrifice or an undue impediment upon their life and freedom. Fair and free elections are the cornerstone of our way of life. Demanding that everyone help out with that seems pretty above-board to me.

(edited by spf on 2.2.05 1053)
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#12 Posted on 2.2.05 1813.34
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    Originally posted by spf
    To ask everyone to serve 1 day in their life in the service of a functioning democracy really does not strike me as a major sacrifice or an undue impediment upon their life and freedom. Fair and free elections are the cornerstone of our way of life. Demanding that everyone help out with that seems pretty above-board to me.

    (edited by spf on 2.2.05 1053)

If we use the specific example of Pool boy's sister, she's been drafted for the next 4 elections. That doesn't really seem like 1 day to me.
There seems to be an out to me though:
    Originally posted by Nebraska Legislator
    Each appointee, if found qualified and unless excused by reason of ill health or other good and sufficient reason, shall serve for the term of his or her appointment.

Just don't be found qualified. Act as dumb and useless as need be to escape this task.
I don't really like turning up to vote and that only takes 30 minutes, I'd hate it if I was forced to actually man a booth or some such horror. There should be enough people who actually CARE, like your good self, to do the duties involved.
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#13 Posted on 2.2.05 1825.48
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    Originally posted by Merc
    Act as dumb and useless as need be to escape this task.


Some might say that would be a ticket to lifetime appointment.
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