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#1 Posted on 25.1.05 0750.02
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Oui oui. Nice to see people still love Mike Leigh. And TUPAC.

I hope Virginia Madsen wins as a make-up award for her tremendous work in two of the great cinematic achievements of the 20th Century, Electric Dreams and Modern Girls. Somewhere, Lenny von Dohlen and Clayton Rohner are weeping.

Michael Mann gets no respect in this business we call Hollywood.

BEST PICTURE
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA
Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND
Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Jamie Foxx - RAY

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR
Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS
Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL
Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Clive Owen - CLOSER

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Annette Bening - BEING JULIA
Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE
Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE
Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR
Laura Linney - KINSEY
Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS
Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA
Natalie Portman - CLOSER

DIRECTING
THE AVIATOR
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS
VERA DRAKE

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)
BEFORE SUNSET
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
SIDEWAYS

WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)
THE AVIATOR
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
HOTEL RWANDA
THE INCREDIBLES
VERA DRAKE

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
THE INCREDIBLES
SHARK TALE
SHREK 2

ART DIRECTION
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

CINEMATOGRAPHY
THE AVIATOR
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

COSTUME DESIGN
THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
RAY
TROY

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
BORN INTO BROTHELS
THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL
SUPER SIZE ME
TUPAC: RESURRECTION
TWIST OF FAITH

DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
AUTISM IS A WORLD
THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY
HARDWOOD
MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH
SISTER ROSE'S PASSION

FILM EDITING
THE AVIATOR
COLLATERAL
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
THE CHORUS
DOWNFALL
THE SEA INSIDE
YESTERDAY

MAKEUP
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE SEA INSIDE

MUSIC (SCORE)
FINDING NEVERLAND
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE VILLAGE

MUSIC (SONG)
"Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2
"Al Otro Lado Del Río" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
"Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS
"Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
"Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS

SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)
BIRTHDAY BOY
GOPHER BROKE
GUARD DOG
LORENZO
RYAN

SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)
EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST
LITTLE TERRORIST
7:35 IN THE MORNING
TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT
WASP

SOUND EDITING
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
SPIDER-MAN 2

SOUND MIXING
THE AVIATOR
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RAY
SPIDER-MAN 2

VISUAL EFFECTS
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
I, ROBOT
SPIDER-MAN 2

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#2 Posted on 25.1.05 0757.34
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Closer and Giamatti got HOSED. Fuck Chris Rock hosting, this is the most conservative Oscar line-up since forever. AND Freeway whups me again in the prediction stkes. Bah humbug.
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#3 Posted on 25.1.05 0829.46
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No Uma. No Carradine. No Carrey. No Sale.

(By the way, just who in the hell was Jamie Foxx supporting in Collateral?)
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#4 Posted on 25.1.05 0928.21
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Why Winslet but no Carrey? I thought they were equally good in "Sunshine". Winslet does an excellent job hiding her English accent in the movie. I almost forgot about it 'till I heard her interviewed on the DVD.
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#5 Posted on 25.1.05 0954.02
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Wonder what kind of backlash we can expect for Passion getting one nomination, in a technical category.

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#6 Posted on 25.1.05 1010.33
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I was wondering what kinda backlash from the Farheniet 9/11 people, I guess Hollywood doesn't want another Michael Moore speech or it follows the rule of the documentary makes any money it won't get nominated see Hoop Dreams. They probably didn't want to nominate it, because the Republicans will take it to task, so they will save themselves the controversy. The irony to that is that Academy probably didn't nominate Passion, because of those same guidelines that they don't want or need the headaches for nominating a film. I liked 9/11 and my family thought Passion was probably the best film they have seen in awhile, my Dad however was not really moved by it and kinda thought the violence was just too over the top for him. The same man that let me watch Untouchables and Die Hard at the age of 10, I love him.

Jamie Foxx probably didn't deserve the nod in supporting, but since they are not going to give to him in Ray, he'll get it there. I think this is Marty's year, finally, should have been for Raging Bull or Goodfellas. I do think Best Picture is up for grabs though. Not nominating Uma, Quentin or Caradine for Kill Bill 2 or even Kill Bill 2 is crimenal. I don't expect them to win, but at least have the nuts to nominate of them. To me that was easily one of the top five films of the year, because of solid acting and directing. My wife will be routing for Johnny and with the Academy's reverse clock effect ie the person who should have won last year, gets it this year, he could pull it off. Million Dollar Baby is probably the early front runner even though Aviator got the nods. Clint has stroke in Hollywood, but Rocky with a vagina, I don't think so.

I'll probably do my friend's annual radio show on the oscars and just tell everyone to take a pass this year. The only category I care about is animated film and boy, is that going to be tight.

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#7 Posted on 25.1.05 1023.38
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Before you get all in a tizzy over the F911 "conspiracy" for best documentary, Moore had recused it from consideration earlier in the year for the purpose of getting it on television before the election. Best Doc rules state that a documentary for consideration cannot be on TV less than 9 months after theatrical release.




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#8 Posted on 25.1.05 1105.49
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Right, Michael Moore was actually going for a Best Picture nomination, although that's really a pipe dream for a documentary - or anything released before November for that matter*. (It doesn't ultimately matter anyway - like I said months ago, that award is Morgan Spurlock's to lose.)

    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Wonder what kind of backlash we can expect for Passion getting one nomination, in a technical category.


Conservative pundits will get to pretend they're persecuted, but they love doing that so, really, everyone wins. (In all seriousness, it was a slightly-above average movie at best and it was released in the spring, so it didn't have a prayer anyway.)

Now, had Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Passion of the Christ been up for Best Picture, well, then things might've been interesting. (It would've been the election all over again, I tells ya.) Of course, they both would've lost to Sideways anyway, so it's a moot point.



*: Does anyone doubt that if Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, which did better than I expected in nominations - I admit, was released on Christmas day, Jim Carry would be nominated for Best Actor, Michael Gondry for Best Director and the film would be up for Best Picture? Conversely, if, say, Vera Drake came out last March, it wouldn't be nominated for a goddamn thing?
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#9 Posted on 25.1.05 1120.18
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That list proves that once again Alan Alda is GOD
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#10 Posted on 25.1.05 1319.32
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For the people who asked about Best Actor:

Jim Carrey, Javier Bardem, Paul Giamatti, Johnny Depp, Clint Eastwood, Jamie Foxx, Leonardo DiCaprio, Don Cheadle, Tom Cruise, Liam Neeson, Adam Sandler, Jeff Bridges, Gael Garcia Bernal, Sean Penn, Denzel Washington & Bill Murray all got huge pushes for Best Actor this year, and one could argue that they all deserved a spot.
-Depp lost last year (for arguably a better performance), so this is his make-up spot. Eastwood is almost universally beloved, as is Million Dollar Baby, so he gets a spot. DiCaprio had a lot of buzz two years back for Gangs of New York AND Catch Me If You Can, but vote-splitting likely cost him. One performance, arguably better than the previous two, gets him a well-deserved nomination. Cheadle's an overdue actor in a film that ended up getting a lot of nominations, so that put him over the top. Jamie Foxx is the guy everyone loves this year. He had two great performances (3 if you include TV movies) and has come off as extremely cool during the awards shows.
-Murray got a nomination last year for a much better performance. Sandler had an above-average performance in a film that nobody really loved. Denzel won a couple years back, so it'll be a while before he gets another nomination unless he blows everyone away. Penn won last year. See Denzel. Bridges was in a great film that opened too early in the year for the buzz to maintain. Carrey was in a great film that opened too early...but the buzz did maintain. This is the third time he's been overlooked, so odds are the Academy's make-up strategy will kick in the next time he delivers a great performance. Neeson had a great performance in a film that not everybody loved, but Kinsey still got nominated in other categories. Tom Cruise (like Carrey) still has the stigma of a movie star, and was nominated for arguably better performances in recent years. Collateral got nominated in other categories. And Bernal's film got nominated in other categories.

For the curious, a 4-year comparison (winners in caps):

PICTURE:
2003: RETURN OF THE KING, Lost in Translation, Master & Commander, Mystic River & Seabiscuit
2002: CHICAGO, Gangs of New York, The Hours, The Two Towers & The Pianist
2001: A BEAUTIFUL MIND, Gosford Park, In The Bedroom, The Fellowship of The Ring & Moulin Rouge
2000: GLADIATOR, Chocolat, Erin Brockovich, Traffic & Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

ACTOR:
2003: SEAN PENN, Jude Law, Ben Kingsley, Bill Murray & Johnny Depp
2002: ADRIEN BRODY, Jack Nicholson, Nicolas Cage, Daniel Day-Lewis & Michael Caine
2001: DENZEL WASHINGTON, Will Smith, Russell Crowe, Sean Penn & Tom Wilkinson
2000: RUSSELL CROWE, Javier Bardem, Tom Hanks, Ed Harris & Geoffrey Rush

ACTRESS:
2003: CHARLIZE THERON, Naomi Watts, Samantha Morton, Diane Keaton & Keisha Castle-Hughes
2002: NICOLE KIDMAN, Renee Zellweger, Julianne Moore, Salma Hayek & Diane Lane
2001: HALLE BERRY, Renee Zellweger, Sissy Spacek, Judi Dench & Nicole Kidman
2000: JULIA ROBERTS, Juliette Binoche, Joan Allen, Ellen Burstyn & Laura Linney

SUPPORTING ACTOR:
2003: TIM ROBBINS, Benicio del Toro, Alec Baldwin, Dijmon Hounsou & Ken Watanabe
2002: CHRIS COOPER, Christopher Walken, John C. Reilly, Ed Harris & Paul Newman
2001: JIM BROADBENT, Jon Voight, Ian McKellan, Ben Kingsley & Ethan Hawke
2000: BENICIO DEL TORO, Jeff Bridges, Albert Finney, Joaquin Phoenix & Willem Dafoe

SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
2003: RENEE ZELLWEGER, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Marcia Gay Harden, Patricia Clarkson & Holly Hunter
2002: CATHERINE ZETA-JONES, Kathy Bates, Meryl Streep, Queen Latifah & Julianne Moore
2001: JENNIFER CONNELLY, Helen Mirren, Maggie Smith, Marisa Tomei & Kate Winslet
2000: MARCIA GAY HARDEN, Kate Hudson, Frances McDormand, Julie Walters & Judi Dench

DIRECTOR:
2003: PETER JACKSON, Fernando Meirelles, Sofia Coppola, Peter Weir & Clint Eastwood
2002: ROMAN POLANSKI, Rob Marshall, Martin Scorsese, Pedro Almodovar & Stephen Daldry
2001: RON HOWARD, Ridley Scott, Robert Altman, Peter Jackson & David Lynch
2000: STEVEN SODERBERGH, Stephen Daldry, Steven Soderbergh, Ridley Scott & Ang Lee

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY:
2003: RETURN OF THE KING, American Splendor, City of God, Mystic River & Seabiscuit
2002: THE PIANIST, About A Boy, Adaptation., Chicago & The Hours
2001: A BEAUTIFUL MIND, Ghost World, In the Bedroom, The Fellowship of the Ring & Shrek
2000: TRAFFIC, Chocolat, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon & Wonder Boys

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY:
2003: LOST IN TRANSLATION, Dirty Pretty Things, Finding Nemo, In America & The Barbarian Invasions
2002: TALK TO HER, Far From Heaven, Gangs of New York, My Big Fat Greek Wedding & Y Tu Mama Tambien
2001: GOSFORD PARK, Amelie, Memento, Monster's Ball & The Royal Tenenbaums
2000: ALMOST FAMOUS, Billy Elliot, Erin Brockovich, Gladiator & You Can Count On Me
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#11 Posted on 25.1.05 1447.50
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    Originally posted by A Fan
    The irony to that is that Academy probably didn't nominate Passion, because of those same guidelines that they don't want or need the headaches for nominating a film.

Or, it could be that Passion was good in some aspects (like cinematography and makeup, where it was nominated) and mediocre in others (like the film itself.) It was what it was, and very few critics consider it as good as anything nominated for Best Pic, nor those omitted. The craft of Passion's construction was sound, but so was every other film listed in the Academy's nominations, and they're better overall.
    Originally posted by A Fan
    The only category I care about is animated film and boy, is that going to be tight.

The Incredibles already has its trophy engraved. They'll give Bird a Best Original Screenplay nod, and not Shrek 2, and then come back and say that Incredibles - the film with far superior animation (just check out characters hair and clothing to see a huge difference) - is not as good? No. Incredibles: Biggest. Lock. Ever.

    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Does anyone doubt that if Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, which did better than I expected in nominations - I admit, was released on Christmas day, Jim Carry would be nominated for Best Actor, Michael Gondry for Best Director and the film would be up for Best Picture?


Actually, given the Academy's history of snubbing Kaufman scripts (Being John Malkovich, Adaptation) in various categories, particularly Best Picture, I imagine it would have been left out no matter what. Admittedly, it's the better of the three films, but I don't think that would have been enough.

Giamatti's omission makes me cry, as does the fact that Portman is honored for the wrong character: Alice rather than Sam. On the latter note, I was hoping for a screenplay nod for Zack Braff, but won't scream over that one. Clive Owen, on the other hand, owns Closer and deserves his mention.

Eastwood and Alda were complete surprises. I love the latter's inclusion.

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#12 Posted on 25.1.05 1505.27
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-Portman's nomination can be construed as a year-long achievement award (for her work in Garden State AND Closer), so I can live with that.

CHARLIE KAUFMAN FILMS & THE OSCARS:
-BEING JOHN MALKOVICH: Nominated for Best Supporting Actress (Catherine Keener), Best Director (Spike Jonze) & Best Original Screenplay
-HUMAN NATURE: Nothing.
-ADAPTATION: Won Best Supporting Actor (Chris Cooper). Nominated for Best Actor (Nic Cage), Supporting Actress (Meryl Streep) & Adapted Screenplay.
-CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND: Nothing.
-ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND: Nominated for Best Actress (Kate Winslet) & Original Screenplay.

Kaufman & Spike Jonze will be reteaming for another film in early 2006. The Academy tends to reward films (especially in Best Picture) that are either sweeping epics, triumphs of the human spirit, or biographies (or combinations of the three). The Aviator seems to be a lock for now. For the curious, Jim Carrey's next film will be the Secret Life of Walter Mitty...which seems to fit triumph of the human spirit fairly well.


-Shrek got a screenplay nomination in 2001, and won Animated Feature in a cakewalk. This will be the same.
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#13 Posted on 25.1.05 1509.10
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Just for shits and giggles, I looked up the box offices of the movies up for best picture. All information from IMDB.com

THE AVIATOR $51,528,137 (USA) (16 January 2005)
FINDING NEVERLAND $30,919,023 (USA) (16 January 2005)
MILLION DOLLAR BABY $6,156,069 (USA) (16 January 2005)
RAY $72,673,995 (USA) (16 January 2005)
SIDEWAYS $28,632,723 (USA) (16 January 2005)

If we take a conservative view of the box offices, and say that each ticket was $8, then we would get a good view of how many Americans, AT LEAST, have paid to see the flick.

THE AVIATOR $51,528,137 -- 6,441,017 people
FINDING NEVERLAND $30,919,023 -- 3,864,878
MILLION DOLLAR BABY $6,156,069 -- 769,509
RAY $72,673,995 -- 9,084,249
SIDEWAYS $28,632,723 -- 3,579,090

The five flicks took in about $189,909,947 ($37,981,989 average) and divided by $8 gives about 23,738,743 ticket purchases for the five movies.

What does this all mean? You decide. I think it was just some interesting statistics that have shown me that a big box office doesn't automatically equal a Oscar nod.

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#14 Posted on 25.1.05 1537.35
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"Shrek got a screenplay nomination in 2001, and won Animated Feature in a cakewalk. This will be the same."

I really don't see how Shrek edging out Monster's, Inc was any kind of cakewalk? I still believe Pixar got robbed that year.
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#15 Posted on 25.1.05 1634.31
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While on the topic of box office and the oscars. These are the top 6 grossing films of the year (I included "Meet the Fockers" at 6 since it is still in wide distribution):

1 Shrek 2 $441,226,247
2 Spider-Man 2 $373,585,825
3 The Passion of the Christ $370,274,604 $83,848,082
4 The Incredibles $257,408,524
5 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban $249,541,069
6 Meet the Fockers $248,019,335

So if box office were the biggest indicator of what is the "best picture" these would be your nominated films. The films actually do have a combined oscar count of 11 nominations. Only "Fockers" has zero noms.

And as for the comment that this is a "conservative" year for nominations I have to disagree, not when "Sideways" and "Eternal Sunshine..." are up for multiple top nominations. Neither film screams your typical oscar contender.
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#16 Posted on 25.1.05 1641.53
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    Originally posted by krakken2000
    While on the topic of box office and the oscars. These are the top 6 grossing films of the year (I included "Meet the Fockers" at 6 since it is still in wide distribution):

    1 Shrek 2 $441,226,247
    2 Spider-Man 2 $373,585,825
    3 The Passion of the Christ $370,274,604 $83,848,082
    4 The Incredibles $257,408,524
    5 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban $249,541,069
    6 Meet the Fockers $248,019,335

    So if box office were the biggest indicator of what is the "best picture" these would be your nominated films. The films actually do have a combined oscar count of 11 nominations. Only "Fockers" has zero noms.

    And as for the comment that this is a "conservative" year for nominations I have to disagree, not when "Sideways" and "Eternal Sunshine..." are up for multiple top nominations. Neither film screams your typical oscar contender.


But the fact is that the Top 5 of those films DID get nominated for awards. Spider-Man 2 got 3 nominations, just like the original film! Success at the box office HAS shown to be an indicator of the films that get the non-major awards nominations in the past.
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#17 Posted on 25.1.05 1643.06
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This is a very vanilla line-up, but it's also been a very vanilla year. I thought 'Eternal Sunshine...' was the best movie of the year and I didn't like any of Kaufman's other movies all that much. However, since it's not nominated I'd like to see 'Ray' do well. Jamie Foxx did a great job in that movie and made me believe that I was actually watching Ray Charles. Hell, have him sweep both awards at least that would lead to some interesting opinions.

As far as 'Passion...' I would have been okay with Gibson getting a directing nomination. He did do a good job of getting his vision across.

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#18 Posted on 25.1.05 1646.35
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Just two years ago, Jamie Foxx was some jackass hitting on my lunch date in Los Angeles while taking a break from filming "Breakin' All the Rules", and today he's nominated for two acting Oscars. Unbelievable.
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#19 Posted on 25.1.05 1702.25
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    But the fact is that the Top 5 of those films DID get nominated for awards. Spider-Man 2 got 3 nominations, just like the original film! Success at the box office HAS shown to be an indicator of the films that get the non-major awards nominations in the past.


I think that has more to do though with the nature of the blockbuster. Most blockbuster type films are loud and blow up real good and that's why they do well in technical categories.

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