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#21 Posted on 21.12.04 0428.41
Reposted on: 21.12.11 0429.02
    Originally posted by wesman1111
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Now, the very dangerous scenario: KC wins out to go 8-8. All the 8-6 teams collapse and go 8-8. Do the Chiefs and their explosive offense come back from the dead and make the playoffs


    The only problem with that scenario is, that for all the 8-6 teams to lose out, Houston has to beat Jacksonville. With a home game against Cleveland in week 17, they would also likely go 8-8, and with the way the tiebreakers work, they would get in because of a win in week 3 in KC (I looked this over earlier as a Chiefs fan still dreaming.) Houston and KC both would end up with a 7-5 conference record, Buffalo and Baltimore at 5-7 (Houston would have the division tiebreaker over Jacksonville to eliminate the Jags.) Then it reverts to the two-team race and Houston's win gets them in.

    Go Browns, 49ers, Steelers, Dolphins, Titans, Colts, and Raiders!!!


From today's KC Star:
    Originally posted by Jeffrey Flanagan of the Kansas City Star

    As Fred White has been heard to say, “If you want to dream a little here….”

    The Chiefs, and this may be hard to believe, have yet to be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs with just two games left.

    While the Jets have all but secured one wild-card spot at 10-4, there are four 8-6 teams (Buffalo, Baltimore, Denver and Jacksonville) who could, in theory, all lose out. And if the 6-8 Chiefs won out, they'd be the final wild-card team.

    Here's how it would break down: The first multiteam tie breaker is to establish the top seeded team in the division. And in this case, the Chiefs and Denver split head-to-head, but the Chiefs would move ahead of Denver based on a better division mark (4-2 to 3-3).

    That would leave Buffalo, Baltimore, Jacksonville and the Chiefs. The first tie breaker in this case would be head-to-head. But none of these teams has played each of the others. The next tie breaker in this scenario, because the teams are all in separate divisions, is conference games.

    The Chiefs would have a 7-5 conference mark, better than any of the others.


The Texans would need to beat the Jags, but blow it against the Browns in week 17. Let's hope it happens. (You said this, but I missed it somehow.)

(edited by Whitebacon on 21.12.04 0230)
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#22 Posted on 21.12.04 0709.56
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Brady~~~~~~~~~~

    I am so lucky to have been watching that. I was like OMG! OMG? OMG!! and finally OMG!!!

    I kind of wouldn't have minded if we'd had to go play in New England with our Backs against the Walls, because by this point I'm positively spooked feeling the pressure of home AFC Championship Games. But the demons must be exorcized.


I was worked up about Brady's futile homage to Jake Plummer, but really it's better to have that happen in a semi-meaningless Monday night game in Miami than anywhere else. If he did that next week the Jets' confidence would go up for the playoffs, not good for any of the AFC teams, and he might as well be reminded that he's the "next Joe Montana", NOT the "next Brett Favre" heading into the playoffs. If they win out they'll still be the #2 seed.

(Although, in fairness, I could see Favre throwing the exact same pass Brady did.)
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#23 Posted on 21.12.04 1559.51
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Despite the fact that my Packers are killing me, Smalls, I'm not exactly sweating the possibility of playing Seattle/Arizona (it won't be St. Louis since there is no way on God's earth they're beating both Philly and the Jets) in the first round.


They don't have to win both games. If the Rams win one of two and the Seahawks lose both of their games, I do believe that the Rams are in based on head to head. Unless of course the Cardinals do the unthinkable and come in and win BOTH of their games and also get to 7-9, which is not really all that unlikely.

Now what really would have been fun is if the Lions would have beaten the Vikes to get to 6-8 and the VIkes would have then dropped to 7-7. Then things really would have gotten wacky.

Crazy how the Bills and the Jaguars clawed their way back into things, and how the Ravens and Broncos are still in the hunt despite absolutely choking down the stretch.

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#24 Posted on 22.12.04 0113.18
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon and Jeffrey Flanagan of the KC Star


    The Chiefs, and this may be hard to believe, have yet to be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs with just two games left.
You know what's really upsetting and infuriating is that I had already pretty much accepted that they were going to finish with a terrible record and thus get a high draft pick, because even after they beat the Raiders I think they still had the #4 pick, and I was thinking to myself "self, would you get the LB from Texas or the CB from Miami, or even perhaps a top WR" since obviously D is the primary need, but there could always be a receiver upgrade and it might be tough to pass on a Mike Williams, although that was before Eddie Kennison woke up and that kid Parker looked pretty good on Sunday.

That was all one sentence! But anyway, now what do we got? Bupkis! Unless they trade up, and I think they have a lot of picks this year on account of the R-Kal to Green Bay move that got 'em a few extras. And apparently they're supposed to get one for John Tait leaving. So moving on up could be possible.

But even so, what if a top pick just got 'em another Ryan Sims? Maybe they oughta trade down and get a lot of mid-round picks to look for some more Jared~~~ Allens~~~. And this is assuming that they wouldn't just draft another running back, since you can always use a good third-stringer. Although it's harder to talk smack on that move now with L~~~J~~~ being the man.

I had a point somewhere, but I forget what it was. GO CHIEFS '05 (and '04 if all those teams lose)
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#25 Posted on 22.12.04 0633.45
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Keep in mind the disaster that the Redskin's season has been, and now read this:
    Originally posted by Jason La Canfora in the 12/21 Washington Post
    Despite their 5-9 record the Washington Redskins remain alive for a playoff berth, although they will need help from the rest of the NFC to get in. Any postseason chance hinges on Washington winning its final two games -- at Dallas and at home against Minnesota.

    "I don't know how realistic it is," Coach Joe Gibbs said, "but I do know we have a chance...."

    ....For the Redskins to qualify, the New York Giants, Carolina, New Orleans and St. Louis would all have to lose at least one game, but given the fact those teams still have games against one another, those clubs would have to lose specific games.

    For example, should Carolina win at Tampa Bay this weekend and New Orleans beats Atlanta, the Redskins would be eliminated. If St. Louis beats Philadelphia on Monday night and Seattle beats Arizona, that would also prevent Washington from reaching the postseason. Carolina and New Orleans will meet in Week 17, complicating the picture for the Redskins. However, a viable situation exists by which the Redskins could still be fighting for the playoffs in their final game on Jan. 2. If the Eagles (13-1) beat sputtering St. Louis, and either Carolina or New Orleans loses this weekend -- both of their games are challenging -- that would be enough to keep the Redskins in contention in the final game.

    Should everything fall perfectly for the Redskins this weekend, they could control their own destiny in Week 17. If the Redskins beat Dallas, Tampa Bay beats Carolina, Cincinnati beats the Giants, Atlanta beats New Orleans and Philadelphia beats St. Louis, Washington would be able to qualify for the playoffs simply by beating the Vikings in the final game.
...and that's just pathetic.
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#26 Posted on 22.12.04 0959.27
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Last night on SportsCenter they showed a graphic that said 26 teams are still eligible for the playoffs! Somewhere Pete Rozelle has a HUGE woody right now.
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#27 Posted on 22.12.04 1245.32
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This is what the NFL gets for not schedualing any division games until the last 7 games of the season.

-Jag
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#28 Posted on 22.12.04 1310.14
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    And that Champ Bailey is sure one hell of a shutdown cornerback!

I heard a soundbyte this week where Bill Parcells said something to the tune of never drafting, signing or trading for a shutdown CB. With the new rules on pass interference and coverage, a 'shutdown CB' is essentially worthless. Good point.. I hadn't though of that.

For all the Jake Plummer brickbats, I still don't remember him allowing the Chiefs to drive 99 yards on one particular series. There's a little known rule of the NFL that the Broncos need to be aware of: the other team can punt on fourth down.

The Bronco-Titan game is a nationally televised ESPN game...so you know what that means. I don't plan on watching it at all. This is significant, cuz' I've sat through EVERY Donkey game and snap since the fourth week of the 1989 season (that includes preseason games with Marco Martos and Tom Beck, as well as Super Bowl 24).
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#29 Posted on 22.12.04 1321.35
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    Originally posted by estragand
    I've sat through EVERY Donkey game and snap since the fourth week of the 1989 season (that includes preseason games with Marco Martos and Tom Beck, as well as Super Bowl 24).
I was overseas during that Super Bowl, so I missed it. I can't imagine the pain you must've gone through.
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#30 Posted on 22.12.04 1325.51
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    Originally posted by estragand
    I heard a soundbyte this week where Bill Parcells said something to the tune of never drafting, signing or trading for a shutdown CB. With the new rules on pass interference and coverage, a 'shutdown CB' is essentially worthless. Good point.. I hadn't though of that.


I think I heard the same quote and I'm just not sure I agree with Parcells or the others who are saying that. I think what we're seeing is the transition year as CBs become accustomed to the new rules and that we'll see more players labeled as "shutdown" corners. Realistically, the "shutdown" corner is going to have to actually have cover skills instead of size and speed. At least for the moment, the days of the physical cornerback are gone and the days of the cover corner have returned.

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#31 Posted on 22.12.04 1335.33
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    Originally posted by SEADAWG
      Originally posted by Whitebacon and Jeffrey Flanagan of the KC Star


      The Chiefs, and this may be hard to believe, have yet to be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs with just two games left.
    You know what's really upsetting and infuriating is that I had already pretty much accepted that they were going to finish with a terrible record and thus get a high draft pick, because even after they beat the Raiders I think they still had the #4 pick, and I was thinking to myself "self, would you get the LB from Texas or the CB from Miami, or even perhaps a top WR" since obviously D is the primary need, but there could always be a receiver upgrade and it might be tough to pass on a Mike Williams, although that was before Eddie Kennison woke up and that kid Parker looked pretty good on Sunday.

    That was all one sentence! But anyway, now what do we got? Bupkis! Unless they trade up, and I think they have a lot of picks this year on account of the R-Kal to Green Bay move that got 'em a few extras. And apparently they're supposed to get one for John Tait leaving. So moving on up could be possible.

    But even so, what if a top pick just got 'em another Ryan Sims? Maybe they oughta trade down and get a lot of mid-round picks to look for some more Jared~~~ Allens~~~. And this is assuming that they wouldn't just draft another running back, since you can always use a good third-stringer. Although it's harder to talk smack on that move now with L~~~J~~~ being the man.

    I had a point somewhere, but I forget what it was. GO CHIEFS '05 (and '04 if all those teams lose)


So had I, my man. Now I'm worried they're going to get the 2005 Draft equivalant of Ron Dayne with their first pick, since either Johnson or Blaylock won't be back with the team.
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#32 Posted on 22.12.04 1342.54
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
      Originally posted by estragand
      I've sat through EVERY Donkey game and snap since the fourth week of the 1989 season (that includes preseason games with Marco Martos and Tom Beck, as well as Super Bowl 24).
    I was overseas during that Super Bowl, so I missed it. I can't imagine the pain you must've gone through.


I was living just outside of SF for that one - wound up betting Rick Chase of KMEL a chocolate cream pie in the face after the game and again on the air the following day - I'm still blowing chocolate cream out of my nose

Popular sign after the game -
Speed Limit 55
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as for Saturday night - Billy Volek is about to become a household name and my broncos will be making early January tee times
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#33 Posted on 26.12.04 1909.47
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Not to be a *dick* but I have been sitting on this one for a while and have to turn to it in celebration.



Not that I saw this coming either. 14 wins is the most in my franchise lifetime. (OMG.)
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#34 Posted on 27.12.04 2248.35
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Not to be a *dick* but I have been sitting on this one for a while and have to turn to it in celebration.



    Not that I saw this coming either. 14 wins is the most in my franchise lifetime. (OMG.)


I (image removed) U. See ya January 23.
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