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#1 Posted on 18.12.04 0205.15
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The Observer newsletter reports that on 6/5, WWE will present the long dreaded (yet intruiging)mythed PPV, ECW "Extreme Reunion". The show will be held at the Hammerstein Ballroom, replacing Badd Blood. Vince supposedly gave instructions to his creative team that no one tell Paul Heyman anything regarding the show. He is not to have a role on the PPV (as of now...). Steph wants to only use current WWE talent, while Vince, suprisingly, wants to go ahead and bring in some names not under contract. He believes this will give the PPV a sense of authenticity. Jusin Credible and Steve Corino are not expected to be included. WWE is going hard on this, making it the focal point of the entire May sweeps. This will occur after a proposed draft after Mania, where Orton and Cena are penciled in to switch shows.
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#2 Posted on 18.12.04 0726.54
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    Originally posted by Screeching Weasel
    Vince supposedly gave instructions to his creative team that no one tell Paul Heyman anything regarding the show.


This seems excessively harsh and hurtful. Paul Heyman must be feeling like the late Rodney Dangerfield. No respect!
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#3 Posted on 18.12.04 0948.24
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    Originally posted by Screeching Weasel
    where Orton and Cena are penciled in to switch shows


To me, that's the most intrguing piece of news coming out of this.
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#4 Posted on 18.12.04 1006.57
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I guess Paul Heyman can't be involved because he doesn't write good poop jokes or toilet humor. The guy was ECW, and he's on the payroll, yet he'll have no hand in the show? Incredible. I'd like to see them bring in some of the old ECW alums that aren't in the company, but realistically, who's out there that's any good. About the only guys that I can think of off the top of my head that would be able to do anything worthwhile is Raven, and he's contrscted to TNA>

And if Orton and Cena switch shows after Mania, that means that neither of them will be winning the title at Mania. I guess I'm not really roting for either of them to do it at Mania, but, especially with Cena, I think it could help turn things around.
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#5 Posted on 18.12.04 1026.37
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Or both win their respective titles at Mania, so that the switch realigns the championships on each show. Plus it could really really boost the stock of a future Orton/Cena "dream match" at, say, Mania 22.
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#6 Posted on 18.12.04 1037.04
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I was thinking that both win the titles before Wrestlemania, face each other at Wrestlemania to see which brand is better, pin each other, and take each other's belts and switch brands.
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#7 Posted on 18.12.04 1057.48
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IF it truly is going to be an ECW PPV, does that mean Vince has to clean out the checking account he'll use to pay the talent before the PPV so the checks will bounce?
As for the proposed Cena/Orton trade: Lots of things happen in 4 months. At this point, it doesn't appear the Mania booking is in focus yet, let alone post-Mania.
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#8 Posted on 18.12.04 1247.30
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It's insane that Paul will have no input into this. WWE needs to realize that Paul Heyman IS ECW. If they're going to go ahead with this it can't be another standard, cookie-cutter WWE-type show just with different guys. It needs to be something completely different. Something totally unique that looks and feels nothing like WWE. I'm not sure if the WWE writing crew will be able to do that.
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#9 Posted on 18.12.04 1327.28
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It doesn't make sense not to have Paul invovled. If its going to the Hammerstien Ballroom it should be interesting to see what a houseshow looks like on a PPV. If there are going to use current talent and not sign Raven, Sandman and Corino and not bringing Tommy, Tazz and Lance out of semi-retirement then I don't know if I want to watch it. Steph in charge of booking anything tends to led to disater, but this time she can blame it on the prodcut instead of her current regime of lousely writers.

Cena traded for Orton could be intriguing. I can see HHH getting the belt back between then and Mania and then shipping Orton away. Instead Eric gets Cena and you have Cena vs. HHH for SummerSlam where Cena can rightfully lay down for him, because ultimitaly that is what everyone is going to do anyway.
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#10 Posted on 18.12.04 1413.20
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Could this whole Paul Heyman/WWE situation be a work? It gets him off TV and allows him to put his creative input into this ECW thing as opposed to Smackdown.

Just a thought.
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#11 Posted on 18.12.04 1416.33
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    Originally posted by A Fan
    If its going to the Hammerstien Ballroom it should be interesting to see what a houseshow looks like on a PPV.
Or MAYBE they picked the Hammerstein Ballroom because the last two ECW PPV's (Massacre on 34th Street and Guilty as Charged 2001) were held there. Or maybe you consider them "houseshows."
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#12 Posted on 18.12.04 1511.02
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    Could this whole Paul Heyman/WWE situation be a work? It gets him off TV and allows him to put his creative input into this ECW thing as opposed to Smackdown.

    Just a thought.


I'm kind of wondering the same thing myself. Then again, its not like the McMahons haven't tried to book a different promotion before.....
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#13 Posted on 18.12.04 1824.52
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Let's see who the WWE has:
RVD
Tommy Dreamer
Tajiri
Rhyno
Eddy
Benoit
Malenko
Jericho
Rey Mysterio
The Dudleys
Lance Storm
Tazz
Mick Foley
Stevie Richards
Al Snow
Dawn Marie
Nunzio
CW Anderson (having worked on Veolcity last week)
Paul Heyman

NWATNA has:
Raven
Kid Kash
Simon Diamond/Pat Kenney
Shane Douglas
Konnan
Sabu

That leaves:
Sandman
Terry Funk
Jerry Lynn (not listed on TNA's roster)
Perry Saturn
New Jack
Corino (out)
Credible (out)
Mike Awesome
Masato Tanaka
Bam Bam Bigelow
Mickey Whipwreck
2 Cold Scorpio
Doring
Roadkill
Ballz Mahoney
Axl Rotten
Chris Candido
Beulah
Lelani Kai
and a host of others

I dunno. Unless you can gather the ECW heavyweights for what seems like a nostalgia show (Raven topping that list) and the WWE won't allow piledrivers or proper DVDs, doesn't seem like much more than the return of the hardcore division. I would love for this to be a proper show, but they have to sweeten the deal.


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#14 Posted on 18.12.04 1943.43
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I can't think of a better way to "sweeten the deal" than to bring Joey Styles in for the night and put away the high production values, instead using the grainy, edgy look that ECW was known for.

But I see Cole & Tazz doing the announce duties, nevertheless...
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#15 Posted on 18.12.04 2329.17
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I believe Lynn is an agent for TNA until he comes back from an injury, and that Beulah = Mrs. Tommy Dreamer
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#16 Posted on 19.12.04 0008.47
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Hmmm, well, I am a proponent of ECW being remembered and not redone. All those good characters and interesting stories. Whether you liked it or not or whatever, it was fun to watch. The style was cool. So, I guess I'll say that I'll wait and see. As for some of the key wrestlers that will/would be there but who are not WWE-related...

-Sabu: He could probably make more money in Japan for that same night's work. And he wouldn't have to deal with being toned down.
-New Jack: Haha, yea right. I don' think this needs an explanation.
Shane Douglas: I've always been a Franchise fan, but he's burned his bridge with WWE and after that TNA footage business, he'd be a no-go
Bam Bam: He's retired.
Candido: He's lost a lot of muscle and probably burned his bridge, too. That and...what happened to Sunny?
Whipwreck & Sandman: Retired

There are just lots of key elements that, I see, as just not wanting to do it. Unless there was a lot of money involved. Oh well, wait and see.
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#17 Posted on 19.12.11 0051.41
I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's post-show reactions to the first One Night Stand pay-per-view, which I thought was phenomenal.
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#18 Posted on 19.12.04 0219.32
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What would the card be like, if they really wanted to make this go? Here's my suggestion for some matches:

Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome "last man standing"
Rey Mysterio vs Sabu (Rey could carry this to a great match)
Raven vs Tommy Dreamer in a "I quit match"
Dudelys vs Roadkill and Danny Doring

and Super Crazy vs. Chris Benoit

RvD vs. Jerry Lynn in a iron man match as main event


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#19 Posted on 19.12.04 0252.23
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    Originally posted by Screeching Weasel
    What would the card be like, if they really wanted to make this go? Here's my suggestion for some matches:

    Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome "last man standing"
    Rey Mysterio vs Sabu (Rey could carry this to a great match)
    Raven vs Tommy Dreamer in a "I quit match"
    Dudelys vs Roadkill and Danny Doring

    and Super Crazy vs. Chris Benoit

    RvD vs. Jerry Lynn in a iron man match as main event





And Terry Funks wins the title???
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#20 Posted on 19.12.04 0954.00
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Rey Mysterio vs Sabu (Rey could carry this to a great match

Sabu has been a SHELL of his former self for the past few years. Plus, he has a tremendous amount of injuries. I'm not sure Rey could carry him to anything resembling a decent match, and I don't even think it'd be a good idea to have Sabu get in the ring at this point.

Raven vs Tommy Dreamer in a "I quit match"

RvD vs. Jerry Lynn in a iron man match as main event


Both Raven and Jerry Lynn are under contract to TNA, so those matches, as much as I'd love to see them on any ECW reunion show, couldn't happen.

And, man, thinking about this more, Vince BETTER bring some outside guys in and not listen to Stephanie's advice of not doing so. How boring would it be to have the grand ECW reunion just be a show of matches we see all the time on RAW & SmackDown?

(edited by OMEGA on 19.12.04 1054)
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