The W
Views: 97702473
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
26.7.07 0822
The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Foley/Flair altercation backstage at RAW
This thread has 5 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Pages: 1 2 Next(2093 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (33 total)
geemoney
Scrapple
Level: 112

Posts: 1350/3775
EXP: 15029030
For next: 309223

Since: 26.1.03
From: Naples, FL

Since last post: 3 days
Last activity: 7 hours
AIM:  
#1 Posted on 13.12.04 2344.20
Reposted on: 13.12.11 2347.31
According to pwtorch.com, Flair tried to bury the hatchet, but Foley wouldn't accept a handshake. He did ask Flair to sign a copy of his book for charity, which angered Flair (in his crazy-old-man way, I imagine), and he took a swing at Foley.

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_11113.shtml

This is sad. Two well-respected legends can't put a war of words behind them without getting physical. Accept an apology, move on.

(edited by geemoney on 14.12.04 0044)
Promote this thread!
Hogan's My Dad
Andouille
Level: 87

Posts: 1192/2075
EXP: 6291531
For next: 101268

Since: 8.6.02
From: Canada

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 21 hours
#2 Posted on 13.12.04 2355.33
Reposted on: 13.12.11 2355.38
Flair can't seem to disagree with anyone without punching him. Remember the Bischoff fiasco? And he also can't seem to knock anyone out. Though, with Foley, I'd imagine it takes a lot more than a punch to dim his lights...
OMEGA
Lap cheong
Level: 81

Posts: 1320/1747
EXP: 4854925
For next: 137945

Since: 18.6.02
From: North Cacalacky

Since last post: 1852 days
Last activity: 1820 days
#3 Posted on 14.12.04 0003.56
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0008.01
They both come off pretty bad there, with Foley turning down Flair's handshake and Flair throwing a punch because of it. I'm not suprised however, as I've heard some interviews with both men ripping into each other, including Foley really blasting him at the Punk/Joe II show in Ring of Honor.
Stilton
Frankfurter
Level: 56

Posts: 491/793
EXP: 1380496
For next: 17689

Since: 7.2.04
From: Canada

Since last post: 3094 days
Last activity: 3094 days
#4 Posted on 14.12.04 0020.22
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0021.25
I'm not sure whether or not I would have accepted Flair's handshake, either. Foley has his reasons to be a little miffed with Flair. I guess it would depend on what exactly Flair said when he offered the handshake and how he said it. Did he sound sincere? Or did he sound like he was politicking?

I would have accepted the handshake if he sounded sincere, and I certainly would have accepted it if I was about to ask the man to sign a book for charity.

What I would never do, under any circumstances, is take a swing at Mick Foley.
It's False
Scrapple
Level: 137

Posts: 1254/5993
EXP: 30839669
For next: 33264

Since: 20.6.02
From: I am the Tag Team Champions!

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 1 day
#5 Posted on 14.12.04 0133.21
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0133.23
The story's now on the Observer and Meltzer's suggesting that it was a work to set up a Wrestlemania match. If so, it's a pretty elaborate one.
Big Bad
Scrapple
Level: 145

Posts: 3452/6713
EXP: 37248208
For next: 355964

Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 9 hours
#6 Posted on 14.12.04 0211.37
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0221.19
Foley has watched too much wrestling to shake Flair's hand. The Naitch would've pulled it back, run it through his hair and then done the Fargo Strut, punctuated by a 'Whoo!'

Also, Foley couldn't accept the handshake since some fans were backstage and they were all yelling "No! No!"
BigDaddyLoco
Scrapple
Level: 126

Posts: 1473/4859
EXP: 22941027
For next: 143140

Since: 2.1.02

Since last post: 13 hours
Last activity: 11 hours
#7 Posted on 14.12.04 0509.19
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0509.21
Was Foley brought on the show just for the Arab bit? I thought he was doing the ROH thing right now.


CANADIAN BULLDOG
Andouille
Level: 84

Posts: 1555/1962
EXP: 5605726
For next: 56250

Since: 5.3.03
From: TORONTO

Since last post: 457 days
Last activity: 455 days
ICQ:  
#8 Posted on 14.12.04 0706.15
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0708.29
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Foley has watched too much wrestling to shake Flair's hand. The Naitch would've pulled it back, run it through his hair and then done the Fargo Strut, punctuated by a 'Whoo!'

    Also, Foley couldn't accept the handshake since some fans were backstage and they were all yelling "No! No!"


Damn you, Big Bad, for saying the EXACT SAME THING I was gonna say!
BWT
Boerewors
Level: 40

Posts: 278/360
EXP: 422867
For next: 18446

Since: 27.1.04
From: Philly

Since last post: 3102 days
Last activity: 2706 days
AIM:  
#9 Posted on 14.12.04 0752.13
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0752.48
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Was Foley brought on the show just for the Arab bit? I thought he was doing the ROH thing right now.





He is doing ROH but they are only one show a month sometimes two. He is also doing a ton of other Indy shows too as he did the Sabu benefit show this past weekend.

As far as the Flair/Foley thing I don't really see the point of shooting an angle backstage where no one can see. If the fans can't see it then it can't draw any money. I just think if it was a work then Foley has been a fraud the past months working the net with his I hate Flair rhetoric. Not that I'm against a Flair/Foley feud I just think they could have went about a better way to get it started then tricking a few smarks. Then again I thought the Orton angle last year didn't make any sense and that turned out great so what do I know?
TL_Hopper
Salami
Level: 32

Posts: 152/214
EXP: 198955
For next: 7489

Since: 5.7.03

Since last post: 2813 days
Last activity: 2668 days
AIM:  
#10 Posted on 14.12.04 0918.09
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0918.10
    Originally posted by BWT
    As far as the Flair/Foley thing I don't really see the point of shooting an angle backstage where no one can see. If the fans can't see it then it can't draw any money.


It's called "working the smarts". Remember the Owen Hart enzigiri of doom on Shawn Michaels in 95 or 96?

EDIT: Anyone else remember reading in Flair's book how Bischoff has tried to bury the hatchet with him and Flair wouldn't do it? I mean, I wasn't there, but I'm not sure how sincere Flair's offer was.

(edited by TL_Hopper on 14.12.04 0719)
A Fan
Liverwurst
Level: 68

Posts: 1043/1164
EXP: 2689527
For next: 39287

Since: 3.1.02

Since last post: 3468 days
Last activity: 3468 days
#11 Posted on 14.12.04 0928.54
Reposted on: 14.12.11 0929.01
Well, I am a bit stunned Foley didn't accept the handshake, I expect Mick to be a bigger man. But then again, asking Flair to sign the book for chairty was at least a step in the right direction, I can't see why Flair would go off on him unless, Foley made signing the book come off very insincere. If it is a work, I expect to see it on Raw next week if it isn't then its a shoot. Vince has done his appealing with the smarks this year with Taboo Tuesday.
Rudoublesedoublel
Potato korv
Level: 54

Posts: 283/685
EXP: 1214318
For next: 19559

Since: 2.1.02
From: Kentucky - Home of the 8 time NCAA Champ Wildcats

Since last post: 46 days
Last activity: 1 day
#12 Posted on 14.12.04 1126.09
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1129.02
So if I understand this correctly, Flair tried to apologize and Foley didn't accept. Then Foley asked Flair to do him a favor (albeit for charity). Flair then punched Foley.

Foley should have accepted the apology (I'm assuming sincerity). Flair should have signed the book for charity. I think both of them are in the wrong here. But, I can understand Flair's refusal to sign. He tried to mend a fence with Foley and Foley declined, but then asked Ric for a favor?
Amazing Telephone
Salami
Level: 32

Posts: 181/209
EXP: 196841
For next: 9603

Since: 12.12.02
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba

Since last post: 180 days
Last activity: 4 days
#13 Posted on 14.12.04 1214.27
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1221.06
    Originally posted by geemoney
    This is sad.

Yet, at the same time, strangely funny.

"I'm sorry."
"No."
"ROAR!" Punch.
mercer
Head cheese
Level: 38

Posts: 230/317
EXP: 352622
For next: 17828

Since: 17.11.03
From: Aransas Pass TX

Since last post: 2727 days
Last activity: 2587 days
#14 Posted on 14.12.04 1225.27
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1225.30
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Flair can't seem to disagree with anyone without punching him. Remember the Bischoff fiasco

To be fair, who wouldn't want to punch Bischoff?
fuelinjected
Banger
Level: 97

Posts: 2550/2679
EXP: 9098362
For next: 218996

Since: 12.10.02
From: Canada

Since last post: 3173 days
Last activity: 3173 days
#15 Posted on 14.12.04 1253.21
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1259.01
    Originally posted by mercer
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Flair can't seem to disagree with anyone without punching him. Remember the Bischoff fiasco

    To be fair, who wouldn't want to punch Bischoff?


IIRC, Flair suckered Bischoff in catering.

I kinda doubt its a work because Foley and Flair have never been into "working the internet." Now if they had mentioned it on the show, that'd be one thing but there was no mention of it at all.
flairforthegold13
Kishke
Level: 43

Posts: 31/411
EXP: 533760
For next: 31291

Since: 1.5.03
From: Gainesville, FL.

Since last post: 2426 days
Last activity: 2413 days
AIM:  
#16 Posted on 14.12.04 1304.00
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1304.54
Seems strange it would be work, the E doesn't really do the work the smarts stuff anymore. But it does seem odd that Foley shows up for two rather meaningless segments. I guess we'll see.
I was flipping through Foley's book again and his criticism of Flair was pretty fucked up.
Flair's criticism of Foley was probably worse.
You gotta assume they'll be wrestling at Mania, personal feelings or not, that seems to be the perfect spot for them.
I don't really care to see a match between, horribly clash of styles, and has no long-term potential for money ( I mean, 1 match is cool and all, but it's a spot that can be used to get over one of the younger guys.)
Big Bad
Scrapple
Level: 145

Posts: 3454/6713
EXP: 37248208
For next: 355964

Since: 4.1.02
From: Dorchester, Ontario

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 9 hours
#17 Posted on 14.12.04 1357.56
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1358.38
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Seems strange it would be work, the E doesn't really do the work the smarts stuff anymore. But it does seem odd that Foley shows up for two rather meaningless segments. I guess we'll see.
    I was flipping through Foley's book again and his criticism of Flair was pretty fucked up.
    Flair's criticism of Foley was probably worse.
    You gotta assume they'll be wrestling at Mania, personal feelings or not, that seems to be the perfect spot for them.
    I don't really care to see a match between, horribly clash of styles, and has no long-term potential for money ( I mean, 1 match is cool and all, but it's a spot that can be used to get over one of the younger guys.)



Unless WWE decides to get younger guys over by making it a tag match and teaming Foley/Flair up with two up-and-comers.
DJ FrostyFreeze
Knackwurst
Level: 108

Posts: 1727/3374
EXP: 13274656
For next: 245887

Since: 2.1.02
From: Hawthorne, CA

Since last post: 88 days
Last activity: 1 day
#18 Posted on 14.12.04 1401.56
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1402.03
Has ANYTHING that didnt occur on television EVER turned out to be a work? I dont understand why people still think these things might be works.

Let's not forget how insignificant McMahon & Co. thinks us "smarks" are. Why would he ever go through all the trouble of working us only?
Hogan's My Dad
Andouille
Level: 87

Posts: 1195/2075
EXP: 6291531
For next: 101268

Since: 8.6.02
From: Canada

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 21 hours
#19 Posted on 14.12.04 1434.30
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1434.39
    Originally posted by TL_Hopper
      Originally posted by BWT
      As far as the Flair/Foley thing I don't really see the point of shooting an angle backstage where no one can see. If the fans can't see it then it can't draw any money.


    It's called "working the smarts". Remember the Owen Hart enzigiri of doom on Shawn Michaels in 95 or 96?

    (edited by TL_Hopper on 14.12.04 0719)


Except, that happened on television where actual people could see it.

What's to be sad about? Just because these two are net darlings doesn't mean they are mature people. Flair has proven himself to be a jackass over the years, he minimized Foley's entire career and I don't see what obligates Mick to buddy up with him, other than Jesus of New Hampshire probably wanting it that way.
Y2J 420
Italian
Banned
Level: 34

Posts: 216/243
EXP: 236234
For next: 17420

Since: 2.12.03
From: Illinois

Since last post: 3048 days
Last activity: 2981 days
AIM:  
#20 Posted on 14.12.04 1447.54
Reposted on: 14.12.11 1447.59
(deleted by CRZ on 14.12.04 1528)
Pages: 1 2 NextThread ahead: The (abridged) return of the WWE title histories
Next thread: ECW's business climate
Previous thread: Slam Bam
(2093 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Related threads: RAW 12-13-04 - RAW 12/06/04 - RAW Work RATE Report 11/29/04 - More...
The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Foley/Flair altercation backstage at RAWRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.3 seconds.