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#1 Posted on 30.11.04 0318.32
Reposted on: 30.11.11 0318.34
This show was probably one of better RAWs in a long while, still Jim Ross during the "diva" segment using "buissness just picked up" as a euphemism for him having an erection...really kind of killed my ability to write that much positive. Plus starting a show by shitting on Stevie Night Heat is going to make me negative.

What Worked

PAS: Battle Royal was decentish, I really wish I had decided to take a trip down to Baltimore to watch this show live, as there was a long section where Beniot and Regal were wearing each other out, which we were just catching out of the corner of our eye. They did the Viscera Andre team up elimination too early in the match, let him dump Conway and Tajiri before they all gang up on him. Also they really should have done the Batista v. Kane big guy face off with Viscera instead of Snitsky. Vis just has worlds more upside.

TKG: So I'm watching Shelton Benjamin throw one punch after another punch after another in the Battle Royale. Vince is really making all the faces work a dumbed down version of Tommy Rich's offense. For guys working exactly like Tommy Rich, neither Shelton, Maven or Orton are as smart or good workers as Wildfire. How small is their roster now that they need Coach to fill out a Battle Royale? the Vince thing really made you realize the way they're now only booking one week at a time as they can't even keep the shit consistent. Vince overthrows the possibility of Helmsley vs. Stevie Richards???? Where was Vince when they gave Maven the main event. Live I think I would been able to focus on the tight work between Regal/Benoit and Richards/Jericho. On TV this was all over the place.

TKG: Hey look it's the entire women's division. That was a long long face in peril section in the ladies tag match. So long that it really felt like it was booked for a Lita turn after getting hot tag. The kick to the face into the Hashimoto DDT was great.

PAS: Happy birthday to us, Lawler didn't get to bust out any of his big bumps, as this was Lawler selling a bodypart. Did he have a series with Fuller where he worked a match around the Leglock? I think Austin Idol used the figure four. Well Lawler is really great at selling the leg and I dig the fistdrop as a transition, and Flair stepping on Lawlers instep. Really could have used an arena brawl and some blood, but it was pretty fucking great. Built right, I guarantee a Lawler v. Flair mained PPV would do a better buyrate then Taboo Tuesday.

TKG: Forget Wildfire, they're not as good as current Lawler. Yeah for a match that almost killed the Memphis territory this was really well done. Hey Ross thats a Fargo strut you idiot...Needed to be Texas Death...Flair really can't do the figure four into small package reversal fast anymore, if their was blood that slowness would have worked. With roll up followed by a hot eight count near fall. That Flair step on the instep thing was fucking bad ass.


TKG: The main was amusing. It was really good when Edge and Benoit were in the ring against each other. Really shitty when it was any two others matching up. If that was a preview I don't want to ever see Helmsley vs. Edge. the two do a near fall exchange move section in the middle of a match. What's the point of the kick out at 2.9 count for meaningless offense in the middle of match. Dumb workers do that shit at the end of match cause they think it causes hot finish to a match. no one does that as time killer in middle. HHH hits spinebuster, two count...Edge kicks out. Than Edge transitions to offense by reversing a suplex into DDT, two count kick out...HHH reverses Edge's spear...I guess they didn't hire Steamboat afterall. ...end this shit and let me watch Edge v Benoit. Crowd boos finish to battle royale and they do it a second time?

PAS: Three way was fine and Edge is significantly better then Micheals in these. The finish was amusing, does Vince have heat with Stringer? Really felt like they were trying to kill Baltimore so they wouldn't have to come back. First they run the match that nearly killed Memphis, and then they do two straight Dusty finishes.

What Didn't Work

TKG: Its Melina. I'd be excited except, Joey Mathews throws good punches.. So we won't be seeing him anytime soon.

TKG: So they're back to the Batista slow burn thing again?Don't cry wolf if your going to actually go with it. Batista's turn has been hinted at since a week before Survivor Series. But after last week what is the audience supposed to buy? Was Batista setting up last weeks swerve for three weeks? Two weeks ago Powell announced that he had information that suggested that Iran was adapting their missiles to deliver nuclear weapons. Didn't even make the front page of the Moonie Washington Times. Am I supposed to believe that wrestling fans are bigger suckers than Moonie Republicans?

PAS: Eugene's kick to the stomach looked like a tribute to current Jimmy Valiant. Regal started out as a Big Daddy tag partner so he is used to carrying a useless partner, but shit Big Daddy was at least over.

TKG: Eugene is working a guy who can only do moves he saw on TV. He must have watched alot of WWF punches.


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#2 Posted on 30.11.04 0545.29
Reposted on: 30.11.11 0548.12
The Diva segment's big payoff is that we can bid on the lingerie worn by the ladies? Four of them are new to television so how much do they really expect to make off this? I'm sure they'll make a lot more than they should, but they'd probably do better business selling the panties that Lilian Garcia announced in all night, than that of some stripperesque girl who lost in the Diva Search. The men bidding on these could probably get themselves a pretty clean girl downtown for that kind of money.




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#3 Posted on 30.11.04 0953.14
Reposted on: 30.11.11 0953.45
The Diva Underwear is getting way more money than anybody should ever pay for some pretty girl's underwear.

Melina = $452
Candace = $1001
Maria = $4012.53
Christy = $802
Stacy = $1516

Insane. I'd say the biggest surprise is that Maria currently has the highest bid at four grand, almost tripling the bid for Stacy's, who you'd think would've been the biggest money getter.

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(edited by MonteCarl on 30.11.04 0755)
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#4 Posted on 30.11.04 1054.20
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1054.31
Anyone noticing JR regularly misusing the word "literally?"

This week it was, "Triple H's title is literally hanging by a thread!!"

And a few weeks ago, he proclaimed that Sheldon Bengamin "has literally been on FIRE lately!"

(edited by asteroidboy on 30.11.04 1054)
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#5 Posted on 30.11.04 1109.30
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1109.35
    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    Anyone noticing JR regularly misusing the word "literally?"

    This week it was, "Triple H's title is literally hanging by a thread!!"

    And a few weeks ago, he proclaimed that Sheldon Bengamin "has literally been on FIRE lately!"

    (edited by asteroidboy on 30.11.04 1054)


It's an homage to Gorilla Monsoon.
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#6 Posted on 30.11.04 1203.52
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1214.39
    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    The Diva Underwear is getting way more money than anybody should ever pay for some pretty girl's underwear. Maria = $4012.53


Therealdeal 2004-11-29 at 23:49:04 $ 4,012.53 1 YES

Go look at he bidding history...WHOEVER this person "Therealdeal" is sure has money to spend on the one of kind pink panties and bra. Now, I WISH I MADE THAT KIND OF MONEY, this fellow has to be rich or have a great job to be spending that kind of bread and butter for her underwear. Besides, if you look at the bid history he is one of the people that PUSHED it up that high. Good grief I wish I could blow that kind of money, wait a second, technically I have that's why I'm paying credit card comapanies. Nevermind. *LOL*

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Therealdeal 2004-11-29 at 23:31:06 $ 1,521.00 1 YES

He also wants Stacy underwear, and for the love of everything is good and holy, he wants the Candace underwear too! For some reason or rym he doesn't want Christy or Melina. I find this a bit creepy. Anybody else agree?



(edited by jwrestle on 30.11.04 1315)
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#7 Posted on 30.11.04 1621.10
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1624.33
Maybe it's Evander "The Real Deal" Holyfield, hoping to start up a celebrity lingerie store? I mean hey, he's got the money, right? And all those blows to the head recently (not to mention over his career) might have addled his sense of reasoning to the point of no return. ;)
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#8 Posted on 30.11.04 1637.17
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1639.04
    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    The Diva Underwear is getting way more money than anybody should ever pay for some pretty girl's underwear.

    Melina = $452
    Candace = $1001
    Maria = $4012.53
    Christy = $802
    Stacy = $1516

    Insane. I'd say the biggest surprise is that Maria currently has the highest bid at four grand, almost tripling the bid for Stacy's, who you'd think would've been the biggest money getter.

    --Monte N
    http://www.thebananaconvention.com



    (edited by MonteCarl on 30.11.04 0755)


Interesting, seeing as how I thought I was the only one who finds Maria extremely hot. Or at least hotter than "Gremlin girl" Melina or "Stick figure" Keibler. Having a real body doesn't hurt things either....and yes, they are real.

(edited by FurryHippie on 30.11.04 1437)
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#9 Posted on 30.11.04 1712.54
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1713.49
    Originally posted by tomk
    PAS: Happy birthday to us, Lawler didn't get to bust out any of his big bumps, as this was Lawler selling a bodypart. Did he have a series with Fuller where he worked a match around the Leglock? I think Austin Idol used the figure four. Well Lawler is really great at selling the leg and I dig the fistdrop as a transition, and Flair stepping on Lawlers instep. Really could have used an arena brawl and some blood, but it was pretty fucking great. Built right, I guarantee a Lawler v. Flair mained PPV would do a better buyrate then Taboo Tuesday.

    TKG: Forget Wildfire, they're not as good as current Lawler. Yeah for a match that almost killed the Memphis territory this was really well done. Hey Ross thats a Fargo strut you idiot...Needed to be Texas Death...Flair really can't do the figure four into small package reversal fast anymore, if their was blood that slowness would have worked. With roll up followed by a hot eight count near fall. That Flair step on the instep thing was fucking bad ass.






The Idol feud in '87 probably had the leglock used prominently, as it had Rich and Idol take Lawler out for a while by spread eagle'ing him around the ringpost numerous times in a cage match.
If I'm weak in the history of any territory in the mid 80's, it probably is Memphis. Did they almost kill the territory because Lawler guaranteed he would win a World Title by the end of '85, lost to Flair, recanted in late '85 when he realized he wouldn't win either the AWA or NWA belt that year, and then lost a loser leaves town for 90 days to Dundee right around New Years?
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#10 Posted on 30.11.04 1802.19
Reposted on: 30.11.11 1805.50
I'd have to guess therealdeal is RD Reynolds of Wrestlecrap. He won the bid for the Katie Vick cheerleading uniform earlier on, so he's probably looking for more wrestlecrap. The book sales must be going great if he can afford them.
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#11 Posted on 30.11.04 2003.53
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    Originally posted by hansen9j
    I'd have to guess therealdeal is RD Reynolds of Wrestlecrap. He won the bid for the Katie Vick cheerleading uniform earlier on, so he's probably looking for more wrestlecrap. The book sales must be going great if he can afford them.


RD is married, no? If so, I don't know of any wife that would allow $6,500 or so to go to women's underwear that belonged to second rate strippers no matter how hot his books were selling.

The prices are outrageous, but I guess it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise since one of the hottest sellers in the early days of e-bay was used underwear from your everyday shmoe.

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#12 Posted on 1.12.04 0916.17
Reposted on: 1.12.11 0916.28
    Originally posted by FurryHippie
      Originally posted by MonteCarl
      The Diva Underwear is getting way more money than anybody should ever pay for some pretty girl's underwear.

      Melina = $452
      Candace = $1001
      Maria = $4012.53
      Christy = $802
      Stacy = $1516

      Insane. I'd say the biggest surprise is that Maria currently has the highest bid at four grand, almost tripling the bid for Stacy's, who you'd think would've been the biggest money getter.

      --Monte N
      http://www.thebananaconvention.com



      (edited by MonteCarl on 30.11.04 0755)


    Interesting, seeing as how I thought I was the only one who finds Maria extremely hot. Or at least hotter than "Gremlin girl" Melina or "Stick figure" Keibler. Having a real body doesn't hurt things either....and yes, they are real.

    (edited by FurryHippie on 30.11.04 1437)


Bulimic chicks generally seem just as "fake" to me as chicks with boob implants.
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#13 Posted on 1.12.04 2038.44
Reposted on: 1.12.11 2039.31
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by FurryHippie
        Originally posted by MonteCarl
        The Diva Underwear is getting way more money than anybody should ever pay for some pretty girl's underwear.

        Melina = $452
        Candace = $1001
        Maria = $4012.53
        Christy = $802
        Stacy = $1516

        Insane. I'd say the biggest surprise is that Maria currently has the highest bid at four grand, almost tripling the bid for Stacy's, who you'd think would've been the biggest money getter.

        --Monte N
        http://www.thebananaconvention.com



        (edited by MonteCarl on 30.11.04 0755)


      Interesting, seeing as how I thought I was the only one who finds Maria extremely hot. Or at least hotter than "Gremlin girl" Melina or "Stick figure" Keibler. Having a real body doesn't hurt things either....and yes, they are real.

      (edited by FurryHippie on 30.11.04 1437)


    Bulimic chicks generally seem just as "fake" to me as chicks with boob implants.


Maria is neither. You must be referring to Ethiopia Keibler.
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