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#1 Posted on 3.11.04 1713.17
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Story at http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news.jsp?ymd=20041103&content_id=909666&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp

Pitcher: Greg Maddux, Chicago Cubs
Catcher: Mike Matheny, St. Louis Cardinals
First base: Todd Helton, Colorado Rockies
Second base: Luis Castillo, Florida Marlins
Third base: Scott Rolen, St. Louis Cardinals
Shortstop: Cesar Izturis, L.A. Dodgers
Outfield: Jim Edmonds, St. Louis Cardinals
Outfield: Steve Finley, L.A. Dodgers
Outfield: Andruw Jones, Atlanta Braves

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#2 Posted on 3.11.04 1716.59
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Pujols had Helton beat in all of the sabertmetric stats, but had more errors. He should have won it there.

All in all, a better list than the AL GG winners.
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#3 Posted on 3.11.04 1836.46
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    All in all, a better list than the AL GG winners.


I imagined Rob Neyer FLIPPING OUT when told of Jeter's win.
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#4 Posted on 3.11.04 1921.01
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I again think it's crap that they give the GG to 3 Centerfielders and not do it by position. Why not give all 4 infield GGs to shortstop.
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#5 Posted on 3.11.04 2042.37
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Edmonds only had a .988 fielding percentage, was is not that high.

Corey Patterson, for example, had a .997 fielding percentage.
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#6 Posted on 3.11.04 2113.43
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I thought Derrek Lee would be a 1st base gold-glover for years to come after breaking through last year.

Disappointed that Alex Gonzalez (Fla.) didn't get the gold glove, but I can see how Izturis did.
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#7 Posted on 3.11.04 2232.35
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    Originally posted by messenoir
    Edmonds only had a .988 fielding percentage, was is not that high.

    Corey Patterson, for example, had a .997 fielding percentage.



Edmonds can also make catches that few others who aren't Torii Hunter cannot, like his grab in Cincinnati where he brought he ball back from a couple feet in the stands. It's true that a lot of his highlights are a tad overrated since he's playing a bit out of position, but still, he makes the catch.
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#8 Posted on 4.11.04 1154.20
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    Originally posted by PeterStork
    Edmonds can also make catches that few others who aren't Torii Hunter cannot, like his grab in Cincinnati where he brought he ball back from a couple feet in the stands. It's true that a lot of his highlights are a tad overrated since he's playing a bit out of position, but still, he makes the catch.


The problem with Edmonds being that in his down years defensively (and this was one), too often he doesn't make the catch.

And they give Gold Gloves to three center fielders, barring an Ichiro, because most left fielders can't throw and most right fielders can't move.

Gold Gloves are the worst and most haphazardly-given award in baseball anyway, completely without regard for what anyone actually did and relying mostly on what they've done before. Boone did nothing to earn his Gold Glove this year, Jeter was improved but still not as good as a LOT of other guys, Helton really probably should have been Pujols, yada yada. Fielding percentage is what they seem to look for when there's not a name they can just throw it at, which helps explain Luis Castillo. But it was certainly nice that Jeter needed a hug and got one.
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#9 Posted on 4.11.04 1219.32
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Whitebacon
      All in all, a better list than the AL GG winners.


    I imagined Rob Neyer FLIPPING OUT when told of Jeter's win.


I immediately sent out an email to him and I haven't heard back yet. He usually responds to his email. Maybe he quit the whole baseball thing because of that? Naw.
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