#21 Posted on 1.11.04 1547.33 Reposted on: 1.11.11 1550.30
Originally posted by gugs
Originally posted by vspI'm astonished that Nader is polling measurably this year, even with the name-recognition factor from 2000 working for him. In 2000, he had a recognizable (if minor) party backing him, had a wide variety of pundits and celebrities voicing their public support, and was running in an election that many viewed as a slam-dunk for the Democrats... and still only got < 3%. This year, he's having major problems getting on ballots, he's a pariah to much of the left, 99% of his former celebrity/pundit supporters have disowned him, and he's running as the candidate for an even fringier party, in an election that almost everyone agrees will be extremely close... yet he's still drawing percentage points in many polls. WTF?
Nader was polling around 7% right before the election in 2000. This year, he has about 3%. His final numbers will be way down from 2000, because former Naderites everywhere (especially swing states) will decide that getting Bush out is more important than trying to get Ralph to 5% or whatever he needs. Thus, they'll go for Kerry.
(edited by gugs on 1.11.04 0947)
I also think that it may be that a lot of the Dean voting Dems are still are mad at the party. While I think just about any of them that actually show up at the polls will vote Kerry, I think they're taking every chance they get to tell the DNC Leadership that Kerry isn't their candidate. I know I am. Everytime someone from the DNC calls or shows up at my door to see how I'm going to vote, I let them and Kerry have it, and tell them I'm voting for Nader. It was rather funny, yesterday a woman called and asked if I was going to vote for Bush or Kerry. I said "Neither" and she chuckled and said, "Oh you're one of the undecideds then?" I told her quite politely that there were more than two choices in this election, and I was going to exercise my right by not picking between a douche and a turd sandwich. She laughed.
Odd fact: My father's a registered Republican, so we've always gotten calls from the local GOP outfits to get out and vote (they usually even offer to come drive us to the polls). This year we have not recieved a single live call from the GOP. Everything has been recordings from Guliani and McCain and others either encouraging me to vote for Bush or bashing John Kerry. The messages were usually ended with a quick talking voice that saying that nobody but the local GOP HQ endorsed the call. What the hell? Between Richard Burr spamming my email with campaign updates and these over-the-phone commercials, all my non Dem votes are going the Libertarians this year. The least they could do is actually have somebody REAL call me.
#22 Posted on 1.11.04 1759.17 Reposted on: 1.11.11 1759.20
I voted for Nader in the last election - and I'm really disappointed that I feel the need to vote for a Democrat in this election.
Personally, I really feel Nader dropped the ball after 2000. While he didn't hit his 5%, there was a decent amount of momentum to actually build on in this and future elections - ESPECIALLY with this administration, but he pretty much disappeared.
And I'm surprised by all the Libertarian love around The-W. Maybe they're more reasonable everywhere else, because in Santa Barbara they're just a bunch of lawsuit happy wackos.
#23 Posted on 2.11.04 1133.53 Reposted on: 2.11.11 1153.02
I've never voted third party for a major office, but I have in state and local elections. Just this morning, I voted for the Green nominee for State Treasurer, rather than cast a vote for the incredibly worthless Bob "W" Casey Jr.
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#24 Posted on 2.11.04 1145.27 Reposted on: 2.11.11 1155.49
We actually have R's, D's, a Green and a Constitution for Senate this year, and a R, D, and Green in my Congressional District. I've voting Republican at the top, but I'm writing myself in for my Congressional district...
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#25 Posted on 2.11.04 1356.51 Reposted on: 2.11.11 1358.37
We have Libertarians and Constitutional Party candidates for almost every race in Missouri.
I voted for Kucinich for President, the Libertarian for Governor (against Clare McCaskill and Matt Blunt) and Libertarian for Attorney General. I would have voted Greens for both races if there had been any running.
I don't agree with a decent amount of the Libertarian stances, but I'd much rather throw my support behind them at this point then either the Democrat or Republican candidates.
Blunt and Clare are both just horrible, horrible people who have no business running this state.
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