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#1 Posted on 10.10.04 0105.07
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Ok, so who went to the sneak preview of Team America: World Police tonight? I saw it tonight, and it was fugging fantastic ! Parker is a true cinematic genius, and he should start making more movies...but then we wouldn't see as much new South Park (new episodes on Oct. 27th).

The best part about this movie was the characters voiced by the greatest talk radio host of all time, Phil Hendrie, who played Team America's super-computer, "I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E." and a Chechnyan terrorist, "You've got balls. I like balls." Also a return of MONTAGE which blew the roof off the joint.

P.S.

Fuck Jonathan Frakes for not shooting Thunderbirds with puppets. Puppets rock, and his movie sucked shit because it didn't have puppets. Parker and Stone understood that.

"Jesus titty-fucking...CHRIST!"
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#2 Posted on 10.10.04 0251.11
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I saw the sneak preview tonight.

It was funny at times, but overall the jokes were just too obvious. I've laughed more at episodes of South Park (where you can find most of the jokes that were recycled in Team America).
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#3 Posted on 10.10.04 1001.47
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From a creative standpoint, I admire Matt and Trey's attempts to escape the shadow of "South Park" by trying new things like this film. But at some point, they will need to accept the fact that in the eyes of the public, they will always be "the guys from 'South Park'". And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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#4 Posted on 10.10.04 1247.15
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    Originally posted by TVsTim
    From a creative standpoint, I admire Matt and Trey's attempts to escape the shadow of "South Park" by trying new things like this film. But at some point, they will need to accept the fact that in the eyes of the public, they will always be "the guys from 'South Park'". And that's not necessarily a bad thing.


They also to continue to the same sort of material -- "predictably shocking and anti-establishment."

I guess BASEketball would be the closest thing to an exception. But SP, Orgazmo and now Team America are all cut from the same cloth, great or crappy as they might be.
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#5 Posted on 10.10.04 1303.43
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    Originally posted by TVsTim
    From a creative standpoint, I admire Matt and Trey's attempts to escape the shadow of "South Park" by trying new things like this film. But at some point, they will need to accept the fact that in the eyes of the public, they will always be "the guys from 'South Park'". And that's not necessarily a bad thing.


How are they trying to escape the shadow of South Park? The entire marketing campaign for Team America was "From the guys who made South Park".
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#6 Posted on 10.10.04 1313.18
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
      Originally posted by TVsTim
      From a creative standpoint, I admire Matt and Trey's attempts to escape the shadow of "South Park" by trying new things like this film. But at some point, they will need to accept the fact that in the eyes of the public, they will always be "the guys from 'South Park'". And that's not necessarily a bad thing.


    How are they trying to escape the shadow of South Park? The entire marketing campaign for Team America was "From the guys who made South Park".


Well, for one thing, I'm not sure how much Trey and Matt had to do with the actual marketing of the film. Besides, how else would you sell the film if you're trying to lure a certain market? Would you say "From the guys who made 'Orgazmo' and 'BASEketball'"? Somehow, I doubt it.

What I meant was, they want to show that they can do other things BESIDES "South Park", ala Matt Groening with "Futurama" and Seth MacFarlane with "American Dad". But even if they do have some success with this movie, the headline will still read "'South Park' Creators Score Big At Box Office", because that's what they're best known for. I could be wrong, but it also seems as though the two of them are trying to move away from the series and into features permanently.

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#7 Posted on 10.10.04 1624.08
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    Originally posted by TVsTim
      Originally posted by Freeway420
        Originally posted by TVsTim
        From a creative standpoint, I admire Matt and Trey's attempts to escape the shadow of "South Park" by trying new things like this film. But at some point, they will need to accept the fact that in the eyes of the public, they will always be "the guys from 'South Park'". And that's not necessarily a bad thing.


      How are they trying to escape the shadow of South Park? The entire marketing campaign for Team America was "From the guys who made South Park".


    Well, for one thing, I'm not sure how much Trey and Matt had to do with the actual marketing of the film. Besides, how else would you sell the film if you're trying to lure a certain market? Would you say "From the guys who made 'Orgazmo' and 'BASEketball'"? Somehow, I doubt it.

    What I meant was, they want to show that they can do other things BESIDES "South Park", ala Matt Groening with "Futurama" and Seth MacFarlane with "American Dad". But even if they do have some success with this movie, the headline will still read "'South Park' Creators Score Big At Box Office", because that's what they're best known for. I could be wrong, but it also seems as though the two of them are trying to move away from the series and into features permanently.

    (edited by TVsTim on 10.10.04 1313)




Actually, the making of this film has completely soured them to the idea of ever making a movie again. They don't like the work involved, basically, animation is much easier for them.
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#8 Posted on 10.10.04 1736.18
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Sean Penn didnt like it.


    October 6, 2004

    To Trey Parker and Matt Stone,

    I remember a cordial hello when you guys were beginning to be famous guys around Hollywood at some party. I remember several times getting a few giggles out of your humor. I remember not being bothered as you traded on my name among others to appear witty, above it all, and likeable to your crowd. I never mind being of service, in satire and silliness.

    I do mind when anybody who doesn't have a child, doesn't have a child at war, or isn't or won't be in harm's way themselves, is encouraging that there's "no shame in not voting" "if you don't know what you're talking about" (Mr. Stone) without mentioning the shame of not knowing what your talking about, and encouraging people to know. You guys are talented young guys but alas, primarily young guys. It's all well to joke about me or whomever you choose. Not so well, to encourage irresponsibility that will ultimately lead to the disembowelment, mutilation, exploitation, and death of innocent people throughout the world. The vote matters to them. No one's ignorance, indcluding a couple of hip cross-dressers, is an excuse.

    All best, and a sincere fuck you,

    Sean Penn

    P.S. Take this as a personal invitation from me to you (you can ask Dennis Miller along for the ride as well) to escort you on a trip, which I took last Christmas. We'll fly to Amman, Jordan and I'll ride with you in a (?) 12 hours through the Sunni Triangle into Fallujah and Baghdad and I'll show you around. When we return, make all the fun you want.


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#9 Posted on 10.10.04 1828.36
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Penn doesn't like their stance of "idiots shouldn't vote" instead of "idiots shouldn't be idiots". It has nothing to do with this movie.

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#10 Posted on 11.10.04 1533.19
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I heard that the whole flick was supposed to be one big FU to President Bush.

So which way does the flick lean politically?
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#11 Posted on 11.10.04 1536.56
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It's one big FU to all forms of partisan politics, basically. Bush gets shafted pretty hard, but so does the outspoken liberal army.
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#12 Posted on 11.10.04 1616.11
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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    I heard that the whole flick was supposed to be one big FU to President Bush.

    So which way does the flick lean politically?


Not necessarily. Bush, Kerry, Cheney etc. are never mentioned and they are never specifically bashed in particular. Though I guess you could make some sort of argument on that.

Its hard to tell which way they lean politically, which is the way Parker and Stone want it.
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#13 Posted on 11.10.04 1758.00
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Salon had snippets of a rebuttal up from Parker & Stone this morning. (They are promising the full interview to come later.) Basically, they missed Penn's point of taking up the responsibility to educate the ignorant rather than excuse people for being lazy. Frankly, if Penn is going to go after anyone for telling *dumb* people not to vote, I'd rather he target Andy Rooney.

( Here's (salon.com) the article. Be forewarned you either have to be a subscriber or watch a brief ad for the Shawshank Redemption before you can view it.)

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#14 Posted on 12.10.04 0823.57
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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    I heard that the whole flick was supposed to be one big FU to President Bush.

    So which way does the flick lean politically?


The left takes bigger DIRECT hits, with Michael Moore and just about every prominent leftist Hollywood star taking a beating.

On the flip side, the premise (gung-ho American attack squad battling terrorism around the globe on its own authority, oblivious to collateral and property damage) can certainly be taken as a potshot at the Bush Doctrine. As noted previously, though, no politicians are specifically named, though Hans Blix gets a cameo.

If for no other reason, see it for Kim Jong-Il, who's hysterically funny.
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#15 Posted on 12.10.04 0839.18
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    Originally posted by vsp
    The left takes bigger DIRECT hits, with Michael Moore and just about every prominent leftist Hollywood star taking a beating.


I'm a little mystified. Wasn't Matt Stone directly interviewed by Micheal Moore in Bowling for Columbine? Seems kinda weird for them to attack Moore after that. Eh, maybe it's just me....
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#16 Posted on 12.10.04 0943.29
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Well it seemed they were cool with George Clooney who played the surgeon doctor character in the South Park movie, but they still had a George Clooney puppet in Team America...and well...you have to see .
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#17 Posted on 12.10.04 1106.44
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    I'm a little mystified. Wasn't Matt Stone directly interviewed by Micheal Moore in Bowling for Columbine? Seems kinda weird for them to attack Moore after that. Eh, maybe it's just me....


I think they know that Moore is capable of two things:
* recognizing parody when he sees it, and
* laughing at himself.


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Moore appears briefly in two scenes, suicide-bombing the Team America HQ in the second. They presented a caricature instead of attacking Moore directly, and I suspect that Moore's fine with that. If anyone specifically got thumped politically, it was Janeane Garofalo. Matt Damon took the worst of it, but for different reasons.
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#18 Posted on 12.10.04 1109.29
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    I'm a little mystified. Wasn't Matt Stone directly interviewed by Micheal Moore in Bowling for Columbine? Seems kinda weird for them to attack Moore after that. Eh, maybe it's just me....


From an AP news story :

They reserve their harshest treatment, however, for "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker Michael Moore - but their disdain is as much personal as political.

Stone, who is from Littleton, Colo., agreed to talk about his hometown and the infamous high-school shooting there for Moore's anti-gun documentary "Bowling for Columbine."

"We have a very specific beef with Michael Moore," Stone said. "I did an interview, and he didn't mischaracterize me or anything I said in the movie. But what he did do was put this cartoon right after me that made it look like we did that cartoon."

Parker and Stone still harbor hard feelings about that sassy, anti-gun cartoon because they feel it was done in "South Park" style. They believe the proximity to Stone's interview misled some fans into thinking they had done the cartoon, even though Moore never said they did.

For this slight, Moore's punishment in "Team America" is extreme: he's depicted as a gibbering, overweight, hot-dog eating buffoon who straps explosives to his body to blow up the American do-gooders. The puppet was reportedly stuffed with ham when it blew.


(quoted text cleaned up and link added - thecubsfan)

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#19 Posted on 12.10.04 1149.54
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    Originally posted by Alessandro
    The puppet was reportedly stuffed with ham when it blew.


Okay, speaking as a Moore fan, THAT is freaking hilarious.
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#20 Posted on 12.10.04 1227.35
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If for no other reason, see it for Kim Jong-Il, who's hysterically funny.

This is definitely the first time that I have ever seen this characterization in my life. And, that comment alone makes me want to see the film.
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