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|  #1 Posted on 4.10.04 2212.38
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2222.16 | FOOTAGE! of Flair and Orton's speeches, with string music, Flair's self-doubt, the Main Event, and the chairshot to Randy.
Fighting evil by moonlight, winning love by daylight, never running from a real fight, because it is time to WAKE UP! It also just so happens to be time for Raw, live from NY, NY...and a Fashion Report, too!
Flair, in black suit, white shirt and gold tie, and HHH, in black suit, white shirt, red tie, shades, carrying the Heavyweight Title, stroll to the ring. Flair grabs the mic; he builds-up HHH, whilst putting-down Orton. Flair's specialty is making virgins bleed all night long? Eww! Flair vs. Orton has been booked for the PPV. Then HHH gets on the mic and rips on the fans. Jericho, in black and red silhoutte "Jericho" shirt and red silhoutte tights with black/pink rays, wearing the IC Title, paces on the stage, dissing HHH. Jericho does some fan-interaction and claims credit for the PPV format. Flair challenges Jericho, who gets a steel chair, but Batista attacks from behind, in black "B" tshirt and black pants. Benoit, in red "4Real" tights with black slashes, and
Edge, in black leather jacket, black tshirt, and black jeans, come out to drive-off the heels.
In the back, Coach, in grey shirt, black slacks and shades, interviews Christian!, with Tomko. Christian! cuts a promo on Shawn.
Said Shawn, in cut black "HBK" radiant cross tshirt and mirrored chaps over "Shawn Michales/HBK" tights with sundered silver hearts, vs. Christian!, in black tights with pink "C"s on white crests, with Tomko, in black muscleshirt and slacks. Mike Chioda is the referee of the match, in stripes. The heels eventually get dumped to the outside,
meaning AdBreak does his thing.
During the Break, Michaels did something stupid. Thusly, presently, Christian! is in control. OMG - this is HOT Christian!-on-Christian action! This crowd has been watching Sesame Street - they like to count. SweetChinMusic->pin. A nice match.
JR, in grey suit, white shirt, black tie and black hat, and Lawler, in white suit and black shirt, present FOOTAGE! from Earlier Today. Todd Grisham, in black suit, blue shirt and blue tie, interviews Lita, in a sleeveless dress, looking very much less drugged-up.
Meanhile, somewhere in the back, Bisch, in black leather jacket and black shirt, makes a deal with some woman. Coach barges in; dialogue ensues.
In the ring, JR introduces Gene Snitsky in black undies, pushing a baby stroller to the ring. I LOVE his video - it's his face, his face, "Gene Snitsky", back to the face - it's genius! One "It wasn't my fault" and Kane, in black tights with red barbedwire stripes, is out. JR bails faster than a French sailor. Gene uses a lead pipe, in the ring, to bash Kane's skull in. Actually, Kane blades. Snitsky actually makes Kane look on the small side. Maybe three minutes.
Moments ago, four sentences ago.
Benoit, in same, vs. Batista, in black "Batista" undies with crotch flame, with Flair, now sans coat and tie. Chad "I'll allow it" Patton officiates, in stripes.
Randy, in yellow polo shirt and black slacks, interferes, leading to the DQ. Bisch leads the charge of Local Indy Workers Moonlighting as Rent-a-Cops to haul-off Randy.
Bisch is in the ring. He blabs about the PPV. Eugene comes out for something.
Bisch reveals that Carmella had "a crush" on Eugene. Oh, fuckit; I'm channel-flipping.
La Resistance, in same as always, singing, vs. Hurricane and Rosey, also in same as always. Jack Doan is the referee. Post-match, Rosey (accidentally) KO's Hurricane.
Simon Dean does his thing.
Coach interviews Edge. Edge says he should get a title shot because he's never gotten one before. Too bad, Edge - you're not over.
Damn near everybody is in Bischoff's office, where he presses them into service as lumberjacks in tonights Main Event. Meanwhile, Stacy Kiebler. Mmm - Stacy.
Stacy vs. Molly. Trish interferes.
Coach is a lumberjack? Jericho, in same, vs. HHH, in black ironcross undies, wearing the Heavyweight Title. EarL Hebner wears the stripes of the referee. Wait - Raw from England? But it'll be, like, 2 AM! Rhyno with the GORE!
Overall: This show just had way too many lulls for me to actually get into it. | Promote this thread! |             | Mayhem
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| #2 Posted on 4.10.04 2218.05
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2222.17 |
Just a terrible show ... sure there were a couple of decent spots, but RAW just sucked ...
Seeing all of those lumberjacks made me realize that there are people who are waaaaay more qualified to be in a high profile storyline than Gene Snitsky ...
Rodney Mack & Chuck Palumbo should be given a shot on RAW as a team ...
a Rhyno/Jericho feud? I'll pass.
I know this was his first night back on RAW in a few weeks, but are we now supposed to forget the animosity between Jericho & Edge?
Christy vs. Carmella ... just fucking great. | Underwater
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| #3 Posted on 4.10.04 2218.48
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2222.17 | It somehow needs to be arranged for one of the Heat crew(Val,Stevie,Mack,Palumbo) to get that IC title match. If for no other reason than the sheer randomness of it.
Raw was alot of matches that looked good on paper, but ended up not being so good. And geez was that stunner RKO fest forced. | Spaceman Spiff
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| #4 Posted on 4.10.04 2221.16
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2222.17 | Chuck Palumbo makes it on the big show!
That's pretty much my highlight from the show. I was actually looking forward to Benoit/Batista. Too bad it was just a set up for ORTONORTONORTON! HHH/Jericho (which wasn't any good, anyway) is decided by Rhyno interference? HBK/Christian was OK, I guess, although I really couldn't get into it.
And geez was that stunner RKO fest forced.
I guess we get to look forward to an even bigger Orton push. Yay, or something.
And I think JR went a teensy bit overboard for HBK's entrance.
(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 4.10.04 2330) | The Great Thomas
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| #5 Posted on 4.10.04 2222.39
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2222.56 | So, did anyone else catch Christy's buttcrack when she kissed Eugene?
Also, that whole Lumberjack match was a clusterfuck. What was the point of Coach getting RKO'ed anyway? | geemoney
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| #6 Posted on 4.10.04 2223.53
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2228.56 | RAW Thoughts:
The opening promo seemed to exclusively be designed to get fans actually interested in voting. I mean, Trips was leading everyone right along in that interview.....The Michaels/Christian match was crisp, and Michaels looked like he had a lot of energy, including during his "out of body experience", as JR put it....Lita interview was odd- she's blaming Snitsky too? What about the fact that Kane is EVIL?....Thankfully, Gene didn't get much mic time. At least the carriage wasn't full of Sean Stasiak pictures....
Benoit v.s Batista wasn't really interesting, sadly....Ya know, as much as I hated the prospect of WWE signing Carmella even though she didn't win the competition, I DID like her segment with Eugene. "I wanna see her boobies!"- Eugene has played his character perfectly....I think they could've done without the tag match and given more time to the Main event....I loved Stacy's phantom fall into the ropes, pushed by the hand of ? Why do they keep putting Stacy over Molly?....
Have lumberjack matches always allowed lumberjacks to beat on the match participants? I seem to remember the lumberjacks trying to get their licks in behind the refs back. Or has it always been allowed? I'm surprised the MSG fans gave out a "holy shit" chant just for Jericho jumping onto the lumberjacks. The match itself was just a backdrop for the mid-and post-match stuff. Interesting choice having Rhyno knock Jericho out.
(edited by geemoney on 4.10.04 2341) | Juggalo101
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|  #7 Posted on 4.10.04 2225.03
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2229.01 | Random Raw Thoughts:
-Not really an MSG type show and the crowd showed it. I'm glad Jericho finally got a decent spot on the show, but overall it wasn't anything special.
-That whole "stunner everybody in the ring for no apparent reason at the end of the show while JR screams to the top his lungs thing" might have worked with Austin, but Orton is no where near as over as that.
-While on the subject on Austin, I can see Snitsky's "It wasn't my F-F-F-FAULT!" line becoming more popular than anything Austin said.
-For some reason I somewhat enjoyed the Eugene/Diva Search angle...Ughhh...I feel dirty.
-I wanted to be a moron for a day and call the Simon Dean thing. Got a busy signal...then "call failed."
-Was it just me or did Lita look like she was reading her lines of the ceiling?
-Overall, as I said it wasn't a very interesting show, but I'm expecting something big in the U.K. next week (I'll probably be let down). Some pretty shitty stipulations for Taboo Tuesday didn't get me too into the PPV either. | BigSteve
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| #8 Posted on 4.10.04 2228.51
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2229.05 | Originally posted by The Great Thomas
So, did anyone else catch Christy's buttcrack when she kissed Eugene?
Also, that whole Lumberjack match was a clusterfuck. What was the point of Coach getting RKO'ed anyway?
Well, really, what's better: Orton one-upping teh champ or Orton one-upping the Coach!? Seriously, this Taboo Tuesday idea is gonna bomb. A Steel Chair Match. Oh my God, It's carnage! Plus not one but two matches between non wrestlers. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. Get it together WWE. | Kane Is Ugly
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| #9 Posted on 4.10.04 2239.51
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2243.06 | Lita's overacting is terrible. I mean, damn, the only thing saving that segment was her cleavage shot. I know I saw some bra in there.
And why did they even have the voting for the diva search thing if the runner up gets a job too? Not only that, but she already has her own theme song and whatnot. Christy has to have "Walk IDIOT Walk" as her theme song. That sucks for her. Then again, she seems like the type who would go on stern and eat dog shit while fucking a horse for money. The big winner in all this: Eugene for getting a mouthful of Christy. | OMEGA
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| #10 Posted on 4.10.04 2313.18
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2317.28 | | I didn't think it was a horrible show. Just boring. By the time the second hour started I had almost completely tuned out. | Shem the Penman
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| #11 Posted on 4.10.04 2314.36
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2318.24 | What's wrong with RKOing the Coach? It pops the crowd, which is all that it was intended to do. Hitting Coach is right up there with mentioning the name of the city as far as garnering cheap pops goes.
Well ... Christian/HBK was decent. Other than that, forgettable show.
And please, Goddess, do not let Rosey's "mistake" be the genesis of another tag team breakup angle. Because I do not want to watch a Hurricane/Rosey match on PPV.
Christy/Carmella is going to be the Torrie/Dawn Marie of 2004. Next week, Carmella starts coming on to Christy's father ... | Dr. Ed Powers
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| #12 Posted on 4.10.04 2341.36
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2344.54 |
Coach interviews Edge. Edge says he should get a title shot because he's never gotten one before. Too bad, Edge - you're not over.
Not to mention he is also not the sharpest tool in the shed. WWE tries to pass him of as a witty guy but this is the dude who was the first one voted off on the Weakest Link game show. To be the first one kicked off when you are competing with a bunch of 'rasslers, how brilliant. Edge is dumb. | The Sham
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| #13 Posted on 4.10.04 2346.43
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2348.18 | Originally posted by Dr. Ed Powers
Edge is dumb.
Is "nilch" a Canadian thing? Or did he mean "zilch"? | JustinShapiro
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| #14 Posted on 4.10.04 2354.13
Reposted on: 4.10.11 2356.45 | "Why do they keep putting Stacy over Molly?"
It's to set up Stacy challenging Trish on Tuesday, I think with the pick her outfit stipulation. | darkmatcher
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| #15 Posted on 5.10.04 0017.24
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0018.22 | Originally posted by The Sham
Is "nilch" a Canadian thing? Or did he mean "zilch"?
Its a mix of "nothing and zilch". :Shrugs: Hey this is the guy who came from a team that made "awesomeness", "sucktitude" and "conchairtow" into words..nothing different than the usual.
I liked his promo regardless. His delivery makes his messages believeable, to me anyway. Kinda Bret Hart like.
The women's division has managed to become even more of a joke than the Sable vs Jacqueline days! Yippee, is the talent lacking that badly that with all those wrestlers they still have to push an underweight non-wrestler as the #1 face, putting her over the BEST worker in the divison to boot? Guess thats what happens when they they turn the division's blonde into a heel..find another blonde to take her place regardless of skill level. And Stacy is REALLY not pretty, she looks worse everytime I see her.
That whole "stunner everybody in the ring for no apparent reason at the end of the show while JR screams to the top his lungs thing" might have worked with Austin, but Orton is no where near as over as that.
Exactly..even Orton fans have to admit that. You can't push someone like Austin when he's nowhere near an Austin level. He's not even at Jericho level. And the RKO looks lamer everytime he uses it..and coming from such a skinny guy it doesn't even look all that impactful. Its sad how desperate they are to make us love Orton.
Once again I KNEW they wouldn't get rid of Skankmella. I like how they have her claim to be "in a league above everyone" by boasting over the fact that she got to sell her cunt to millions of strange peverts in a magazine that fell out of trend back before she reached puberty. Lovely WWE logic. | Freeway
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|  #16 Posted on 5.10.04 0018.09
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0018.35 | Uneven RAW. The stuff with Jericho, HBK & Orton were handled well. Everything else...not so much. How the hell does Carmella have a job if she LOST? HOW??
As for Taboo Tuesday, they expect you to pay for this:
World Title: HHH vs. Benoit or HBK
IC Title: Chris Jericho vs. Probably Christian
Randy Orton vs. Ric Flair
Eric Bischoff vs. Eugene
Christy vs. Carmella
Trish Stratus vs. Stacy Keibler
So far, all but two matches feature part-timers or the elderly, and the other two have no build-up because of the gimmicky nature of the PPV. Here's a BOLD prediction, only the Women's Title will change hands at this PPV. Why? Because there's no build. | SC
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| #17 Posted on 5.10.04 0025.47
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0028.38 |
And Stacy is REALLY not pretty, she looks worse everytime I see her.
I like how they have her claim to be "in a league above everyone" by boasting over the fact that she got to sell her cunt to millions of strange peverts in a magazine that fell out of trend back before she reached puberty. Lovely WWE logic.
No offense but you sure do sound really catty. Stacy is actually quite pretty and Carmella really doesn't need this job at all. Believe it or not, Playmates of the Year are at least as big of a celebrity as just about any wrestler on the WWE roster. Also, Playboy is really more about tits than - ahem - cunts, as anyone who wanted to see ...that could very easily buy a filthier publication.
Its sad how desperate they are to make us love Orton.
It was especially sad when MSG chanted "Orton" | fuelinjected
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| #18 Posted on 5.10.04 0031.44
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0036.39 | They didn't chant Orton, silly, they chanted "Randy!". 
Edge's problem is that he's like a 1980's JCP babyface stuck in a world of instant gratification and shitty booking that makes no one listen to anyone's message. Triple H is stuck in this time warp as well. This explaining their message in a believable fashion so needs to be dropped in favor of catch phrases and gay jokes.
I'm just so freaking bored with the WWE product now. There's nothing that makes you care at all. Its all just kinda there. Orton hates Evolution? Who cares? They rushed the whole thing. Edge isn't injured anymore? Who cares? They didn't even mention it. Jericho is facing HHH? Who cares? HBK beats Christian? Who cares? Of course he'd beat Christian, anything else would be interesting and fresh. I think I've made my point.
The one thing I was starting to get into on the show, the Benoit/Batista match, they cut short with a Orton run-in. | Freeway
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| #19 Posted on 5.10.04 0036.31
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0037.11 | Originally posted by fuelinjected
They didn't chant Orton, silly, they chanted "Randy!".
CHANT OF THE NIGHT: "Bay-be-kil-ler" for the man, the myth, the legend...Gene Snitsky.
(By the by, the Taboo Tuesday site has Snitsky/Kane announced. Smell the workrate.) | darkmatcher
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| #20 Posted on 5.10.04 0041.57
Reposted on: 5.10.11 0049.12 |
Stacy is actually quite pretty
Love the subjectiveness...
Thin hair, Keibler like(as in elfish) face and a little boy like upper body doesn't quite strike me as appealing. I'm sorry for not putting an "IMO" before my comment however I don't retract it. I'm not claiming to be more attractive than she is, but I don't spotlight myself as such either. I see girls prettier than Stacy walking through malls...and I have heard of a few guy share the sentiment. And no they weren't gay.
Carmella really doesn't need this job at all.
Then why the hell does she have it?
I'm sorry that I'm not all cheery and supportive over the move to put yet more non-talented sluts on board.
Believe it or not, Playmates of the Year are at least as big of a celebrity as just about any wrestler on the WWE roster.
I never claimed wrestlers were big celebrities.
Also, Playboy is really more about tits than - ahem - cunts, as anyone who wanted to see ...that could very easily buy a filthier publication.
Well I apologize, I suppose tit gazing IS alot more prestigious..er um, something. :Shrugs:
Oh yeah...
It was especially sad when MSG chanted "Orton"
So then Orton fans WON'T agree that Orton is not an Austin? My problem is with them taking desperate measures to turn him into Austin, when he clearly isn't 1/10th of Austin's status. I don't see where I denied the mutants' chants for him.
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