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#1 Posted on 27.9.04 1320.37
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This is great news if Conan is allowed to still keep his same schtick ...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/27/leisure.leno.reut/index.html


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#2 Posted on 27.9.04 1333.27
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I keep thinking this might be in response to CBS needing a new late late night guy, and the belief that Letterman will retire before Leno. Speculation was that Conan would go there if he got the promise of Letterman's slot in the next few years.

5 years isn't that long of a wait, and I'll follow Conan anywhere he goes, but for some reason Conan and NBC sound better to me than Conan and CBS.
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#3 Posted on 27.9.04 1335.25
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Let's see...

THE TONIGHT SHOW:
1954-57: Steve Allen
1956-57: Ernie Kovacs [Mondays & Tuesdays only]
1957-62: Jack Paar [called "The Jack Paar Show"]
1962: Les Crane
1962-92: Johnny Carson
1978-80: David Letterman [Regular Guest Host]
1983-86: Joan Rivers [Regular Guest Host]
1987-92: Jay Leno [Regular Guest Host]
1992-2009: Jay Leno
2009-Onward: Conan O'Brien

LATE NIGHT:
1982-1993: David Letterman
1993-2009: Conan O'Brien

God willing, we'll see the Masturbating Bear on the Tonight Show.

(edited by Freeway420 on 27.9.04 1236)
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#4 Posted on 27.9.04 1350.41
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That's quite impressive that NBC was smart enough to lock him up for that long....

The question becomes who can CBS drag up? They will almost certainly have to have two people in mind, since Letterman will probably want to retire sooner rather than later as well.
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#5 Posted on 27.9.04 1353.32
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Letterman will stay on until 2009.5 just because.

This is good news for fans of the Cone Zone but take a look at how much Letterman had to tone it down when he moved to 11:35. He used to do tons of crazy bits.

The sooner Jay is off the air, the better. He is the definition of bad.
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#6 Posted on 27.9.04 1356.57
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Will Conan have to move his show out to Los Angeles, or will he stay in New York?
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#7 Posted on 27.9.04 1402.12
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I'd have to think that CBS would love to get their paws on John Stewart as the successor to Dave.
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#8 Posted on 27.9.04 1405.31
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    The sooner Jay is off the air, the better. He is the definition of bad.
Yeah, but Letterman is worse...
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#9 Posted on 27.9.04 1420.06
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by fuelinjected
      The sooner Jay is off the air, the better. He is the definition of bad.
    Yeah, but Letterman is worse...


Even unmotivated Dave is a trillion times funnier then Jay "No Original Content" Leno. Leno turned from a bad show to having Hugh Grant on to stealing all his bits from either Letterman or Stern to being a creepy old dude around the female guests and giving the worst puff pieces interviews ever.
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#10 Posted on 27.9.04 1438.24
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I used to like Leno, and now the only thing that I tune into on a regular basis is "Headlines" on Monday nights. I can't take Letterman, either, simply because he just seems to be coasting along. I half expect him to stand on his desk and scream "Remember when I was funny and cool and edgy?!"
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#11 Posted on 27.9.04 1458.39
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
      Originally posted by Grimis
        Originally posted by fuelinjected
        The sooner Jay is off the air, the better. He is the definition of bad.
      Yeah, but Letterman is worse...


    Even unmotivated Dave is a trillion times funnier then Jay "No Original Content" Leno. Leno turned from a bad show to having Hugh Grant on to stealing all his bits from either Letterman or Stern to being a creepy old dude around the female guests and giving the worst puff pieces interviews ever.


My "favoritest" theft that Leno ever pulled off was the Iraqui prison soap bit which involved the prisoners tasting the soap and saying it tasted a lot like coconut, which they stole directly from, of all things, an episode of The Larry Sanders Show.

So if you're keeping score at home, that was a host that has become a parody of himself stealing from a show that was a fictional parody of real talk shows to begin with.

But I think they made sure to promise him the spot now so that NBC didn't have a repeat of the whole Leno/Letterman/Carson fiasco from 12 years ago and ended up losing Letterman to CBS because of it.

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#12 Posted on 27.9.04 1556.28
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I didn't see that one. Remember when Leno would take "calls from viewers" or questions from the audience ie the CBS Mailbag? Or how about his versions of Stupid Human/Pet Tricks? Or audience show & tell?

At least when he rips stuff off from Stern and sanitizes it, Stern is on the radio in the morning. Although, doing the show from Vegas when Stern was in Vegas for his yearly week of shows was pretty bad then just taking bits. And taking stuff from the guy who's on opposite you is just tacky.

Given how much revenue the Tonight Show generates, why can't they hire a writing staff to come up with their own bits? They must have made a conscious decision at some point just to try and compile what everyone else is doing.
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#13 Posted on 27.9.04 1626.14
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Did anyone catch Drew Carrey last week on the Late Late Show? He did a pretty good job.

All they need now is better writers...
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#14 Posted on 27.9.04 1639.09
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I guess I'm looking at the really negative end of this story:

We REALLY have to put up with five more years of Jay Leno?
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#15 Posted on 27.9.04 1746.51
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See, the thing about Leno is that he's FUNNY. Not on the Tonight Show, but if you ever get the chance, go see him do Stand-Up in Vegas or Atlantic City or something. As much as I don't like him on the Tonight Show, I really found him to be quite funny live on stage, away from censors. I get the feeling that he's always afraid of offending somebody or "taking it too far" on national TV, while he's quite engaging and electric on stage.

Maybe it's me.

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#16 Posted on 27.9.04 1754.58
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I guess I am the dissenting Leno fan here. I think Dave has been un-funny for the last two years.
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#17 Posted on 27.9.04 1806.18
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Did anyone catch Drew Carrey last week on the Late Late Show? He did a pretty good job.

    All they need now is better writers...


Yeah he was decent but it seems like a step down for him. DL Hughley was OK but I don't see him getting it full-time.

Here are the upcoming hosts:

Sept 27-28 - Michael Ian Black (Ed)
Sept 29-30 - Ana Gasteyer (SNL)

Upcoming guest hosts; Tom Arnold, Tom Dreesen, David Alan Grier, Ahmad Rashad, Jim Rome, and Aisha Tyler.
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#18 Posted on 27.9.04 1900.45
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Leno and Conan are the only shows I get to see and there both great. Leno is great with guests and Conan is great with sketches. At least they can admit when the know something isn't funny and go along with it. And this isn't the Let's bash Jay thread.
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#19 Posted on 27.9.04 2110.06
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    Originally posted by hhhgamewmx7
    Leno and Conan are the only shows I get to see and there both great. Leno is great with guests and Conan is great with sketches. At least they can admit when the know something isn't funny and go along with it. And this isn't the Let's bash Jay thread.


O'Brien's best asset is his ability to make crappy shows utterly hilarious. When he KNOWS a bit is bombing, he points it out and the audience laughs at it in a roundabout way.
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#20 Posted on 27.9.04 2334.10
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
      Originally posted by hhhgamewmx7
      Leno and Conan are the only shows I get to see and there both great. Leno is great with guests and Conan is great with sketches. At least they can admit when the know something isn't funny and go along with it. And this isn't the Let's bash Jay thread.


    O'Brien's best asset is his ability to make crappy shows utterly hilarious. When he KNOWS a bit is bombing, he points it out and the audience laughs at it in a roundabout way.


Somewhere around year 3 or 4, Conan realized that he was never going to get the A-list guests. He was having enough trouble getting B-list guests. So he wisely made the show about himself and not about the guests. He's also good at knowing when a guest is boring the audience and he tries really hard to make the segment interesting.

Probably my favourite Conan moment was when Rebecca Romijn-Stamos kissed him and he flipped out, throwing his chair across the set and celebrating like a madman.

I'm interested in why they announced it now? I guess its a ratings stunt like ONLY FIVE MORE YEARS OF JAY!
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