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#1 Posted on 23.9.04 0358.15
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It was ohhhhhkaaaay I guess. They really seemed to be trying hard to establish a tone or a mood or something DARK but GEEZ would it KILL you to film without washing out all the colour in the picture? I laughed during the opening credits when they showed three or four shots of Gary Sinise and he had the SAME visage in ALLLLLL of 'em.

Competition: We still have "Law & Order: FARINA" on the DVR.

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#2 Posted on 23.9.04 0758.53
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Competition: We still have "Law & Order: FARINA" on the DVR.




I love Dennis Farina, and I miss Briscoe, but I can live with him. There were a few moments in the new L&O's that were too Criminal Intent-like, where Farina's character noticed something that nobody else would notice, but I like the character, and he's got the dry sense of humor that Briscoe did. But he's playing a character that reminds me of all my cousins on my mother's side, so I really enjoy it, especially

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the part about how everybody wonders how the man got all of his money.


Edit: didn't want to spoil a possible plot point for anybody who's got it taped, Tivo'd, DVR'd, etc...

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#3 Posted on 23.9.04 0812.12
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Kinda bummed that this is on at 10 EST, usually I am trying to get some shut-eye halfway between. I like the original CSI, but can't stand CSI-Miami due mostly to the casting. I was intrigued to see this show 'cause I like Sinise, but I gotta agree that the washed-out look gets real old, real fast. I'm sure we'll get some more fleshing out of the characters soon. Meanwhile, I'll have to set the ol' VCR to actually catch the whole episode next week.
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#4 Posted on 23.9.04 0813.11
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If CSInise is too dark, by all means -- watch L&O just for Dennis Farina's threads. Sharp and bright compared to everyone else.

He's not enough of an asshole detective. Yet.

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#5 Posted on 23.9.04 1003.05
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I thought the second half of CSI: New York was very good. The mystery was quite gruesome, though. Along with Sinise, I really dug Det. Flack for the short time he was on the screen.

The original CSI still rules all.

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#6 Posted on 23.9.04 1030.07
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The misses and I watched the first hour of L&O and then changed to this for something different.

We commented that every room in every building in NY has the same lighting and all of them are bad... I know they want to set a certain mood, but is there a reason all the offices have the same lighting as the morgue and the house where all the bad stuff was taking place???

It was good, but I was expecting more, I guess, because of Sinise.

L&O was good too. The interaction between the partners will be interesting as time goes on....
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#7 Posted on 23.9.04 1139.39
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I've liked almost everything Gary Sinise has done so far, EXCEPT for this, I think.

I understand you CAN NOT do a New York show without bringing up 9/11, but JESUS CHRIST, can't we stop it already.

With Law & Order, I don't mind as much, I think, because the show was on the air when it happened, so it has history. CSI:NY is starting fresh, why bring it up?

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CSI:Miami, however, made itself a new viewer this week, in me. I had only caught few episodes of it before cause I liked Kim Delaney and when she left, I didn't bother to watch again, but this weeks episode episode, bad fire effects and all, made me want to see more. I'd forgotten how well Caruso does the brooding cop act.

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Dennis Farina's addition to the flagship L&O series is a welcome addition. I hope it isn't going to be a on season deal with him ending up being a bad cop with mob ties, though, I can see them doing that.

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Anyone catch the NYPD Blue premiere? Sipowitz and Medavoy look to be having a really shitty final season with the new boss being from IAD AND being an asshole to boot.
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#8 Posted on 24.9.04 0341.15
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The popular rumour about Farina's character is that


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he's gay. According to a L&O press release, he was described as "Joe Fontana, a confirmed bachelor...." and people read a lot into it. Maybe I'm just letting the rumours get to me and I'm reading stuff into it myself, but the raised pinkie when he was drinking the champagne?


I just laugh because one of the MPs from the London area is named Joe Fontana, and he's actually a member of Paul Martin's cabinet. It'd be like if you lived in Delaware and CSI or something had a character named Joe Biden. Hopefully the real Joe Fontana isn't embarrassed by the character and won't be changing his name to Max Power or something.
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#9 Posted on 24.9.04 1129.48
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Anyone catch the NYPD Blue premiere? Sipowitz and Medavoy look to be having a really shitty final season with the new boss being from IAD AND being an asshole to boot.


Yep, the one non-sports show that I watch religiously. Since they're going into this one selling it as the last season, I just wonder if they're going to figuratively blow the whole thing up?
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#10 Posted on 24.9.04 1209.27
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Watching shows like CSI: NY, Cold Case and Without a Trace makes me think that they're all working off the same cinematography textbook called The World According to Blue. Look at all the blue people! And though that bugs me in a general monochromatic way, what really bugs me is the over-slick skewed and focused blue mood-lighting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CSI people work in a government building, yes? Then why is it not lit, overhead, by flourescent lights? What misuse of funding blessed it with recessed lights up by the ceiling, tinted track lighting and thin high-arched lamps from The Sharper Image?

And even if you dismiss all of that with the "come on, it's a TV show" line of thinking, why are the Vegas, Miami and New York CSI crime labs so goddamned dark. I mean, isn't it easier to collect and analyze evidence when you can see it?


That said, Farina grew on me over the course of the first episode, and I was sold on the Farina-era Law & Order by episode two. I like the fact that he seems to enjoy being a casual liar (like it's effortless for him, whereas Briscoe always seemed to have to psyche himself up for being a two-faced jerk). His touches of empathy set him apart from the other L&O detectives, too, but I hope they use that sparingly and don't turn it into the "annoying empathy moment per episode."

Now if only we could replace McCoy, who's now repeating old schtick for the third or fourth time every episode. That and, God help me, his bug-eyed indignation and that throat wattle are together starting to make him look like a turkey.
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#11 Posted on 24.9.04 1216.40
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    Originally posted by Jeb Tennyson Lund
    Now if only we could replace McCoy, who's now repeating old schtick for the third or fourth time every episode. That and, God help me, his bug-eyed indignation and that throat wattle are together starting to make him look like a turkey.


McCoy has exactly two forms of verbalization and neither one of them are that of a normal human being. There's McCoy Makes A Plan, which involves him speaking at half the speed of a normal person and enunciating EV. ERY. SIN. GLE. PART. And then there's Rightous Irish Indignance, in which he takes this shit waaaaaay too personal.

You have to wonder which McCoy shows up if at a restaurant they overcook his steak a bit or if someone asks for directions.


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#12 Posted on 25.9.04 1517.42
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    Originally posted by Jeb Tennyson Lund
    Watching shows like CSI: NY, Cold Case and Without a Trace makes me think that they're all working off the same cinematography textbook called The World According to Blue. Look at all the blue people! And though that bugs me in a general monochromatic way, what really bugs me is the over-slick skewed and focused blue mood-lighting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CSI people work in a government building, yes? Then why is it not lit, overhead, by flourescent lights? What misuse of funding blessed it with recessed lights up by the ceiling, tinted track lighting and thin high-arched lamps from The Sharper Image?

    And even if you dismiss all of that with the "come on, it's a TV show" line of thinking, why are the Vegas, Miami and New York CSI crime labs so goddamned dark. I mean, isn't it easier to collect and analyze evidence when you can see it?


Preach on. That, along with the irritating reliance on DIGITAL ZOOMS and CGI RE-ENACTMENTS and other special-effects shite annoys the hell out of me. Stick to movies, Bruckheimer. That is, assuming you actually have to have a career. Besides, I wasn't aware EVERY BUILDING in NYC looked exactly the same inside.
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#13 Posted on 26.9.04 0145.37
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
      Originally posted by Jeb Tennyson Lund
      Now if only we could replace McCoy, who's now repeating old schtick for the third or fourth time every episode. That and, God help me, his bug-eyed indignation and that throat wattle are together starting to make him look like a turkey.


    McCoy has exactly two forms of verbalization and neither one of them are that of a normal human being. There's McCoy Makes A Plan, which involves him speaking at half the speed of a normal person and enunciating EV. ERY. SIN. GLE. PART. And then there's Rightous Irish Indignance, in which he takes this shit waaaaaay too personal.

    You have to wonder which McCoy shows up if at a restaurant they overcook his steak a bit or if someone asks for directions.


    (edited by Blanket Jackson on 24.9.04 1317)


It's probably time for Waterston to move on, but let's be honest: he's a good actor whose craft has no doubt suffered from being in scene after scene with Fred Thompson and Liz Rohm for the last two years. It's like Eddie being stuck wrestling only JBL for two years.
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