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#1 Posted on 15.9.04 0521.19
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I'm not sure if religious stuff is allowed, but i don't think this conflicts with any faiths or lack thereof. It's just hypothetical.

What defines God?

Say a being caused the big bang accidentally and was killed in the process. It created the universe, but it didn't design it, didn't specifically create humans or have anything do do with an afterlife. Is it God?

What if the big bang just happened and one of the things created was a being who went on to create humans but no afterlife or anything like that. Would that being be God?

What if the universe, humans and even souls occurred naturally but then some being created a place where souls could survive after their physical bodies died, would that being be God?

Is God good?

Could God make mistakes, or act in a morally bad manner?Would He still be God or is God by definition good and therefore all his actions and wishes are inherently good?

or could it be case of might makes right, and we better agree with His definition of good or he'll send us to hell.Could an all powerful dictator be God or is goodness a necessary part of being God?
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#2 Posted on 15.9.04 0626.00
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God is Morgan Freeman, and unfortunately a Yankees fan. Didn't you see "Bruce Almighty"?

Really, though I'd recommend speaking to pastors and other religious leaders in your community. You'll probably never get the same answer twice.....I'm sure there are tons of books out there as well. Good luck.
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#3 Posted on 15.9.04 0812.32
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Check out anything written by Joseph Campbell. A good place to start with him is the "Power of Myth" which is a long conversation he had with Bill Moyers.
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#4 Posted on 15.9.04 0827.48
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    Originally posted by dwaters
    God is Morgan Freeman, and unfortunately a Yankees fan. Didn't you see "Bruce Almighty"?


I can't decide between the following responses -

"I am who am" - see old testament

"Foley is God" - see signs at various wrestling arenas

or my favorite - God will forever be George Burns in the role with John Denver in "Oh God" While promoting this movie Mr. Burns was asked about how he liked the role and he replied "It was typecasting"

After four years of Catholic high school, followed by 4 years in a Jesuit university, and this is all I can come up with...I wasted a lot of $$$ on tuition...
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#5 Posted on 15.9.04 0839.50
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If you are a university student, you could do a lot worse than taking some philosophy courses. Or even just one.

If you're specifically interested in discussing religion, there's always Philosophy of Religion classes. But most "intro" philosophy courses will spend some time on the whole "God question," probably under the general umbrella of metaphysics.

Just be sure to approach with an open mind.

Your simple-sounding question, "What defines God," has more answers than you can imagine dating back further than we've got record. Interesting perspectives can be found everywhere from Boethius to Augustine, Descartes to Nietsczhe.

I'm not much of a believer in the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal being, myself, but there are plenty of religious and non-religious perspectives to be had. You'll find all of the questions you asked come up and then some.

Is God good? I dunno for sure; all I know is that she's black.
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#6 Posted on 15.9.04 1019.04
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I've often wondered the same thing ... why does really rotten stuff happen to good people and the scum of the world seem to sometimes have an easy life ... that's the one thing I wanna know ...

(edited by Mayhem on 15.9.04 1020)
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#7 Posted on 15.9.04 1020.19
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God is Santa Claus for grown-ups.
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#8 Posted on 15.9.04 1243.25
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    I've often wondered the same thing ... why does really rotten stuff happen to good people and the scum of the world seem to sometimes have an easy life ... that's the one thing I wanna know ...

    (edited by Mayhem on 15.9.04 1020)


Sour grapes? There are less rich and powerful people on this planet than average Joes and Janes and poor folks, so by the law of averages, more bad stuff is bound to happen to regular people. It's difficult to see bad things happen to the people up the hill, if only because the sun blinds you whenever you look up.

Back on topic, while commendable to seek out the answers to the questions you ask from the voices of the layman, I'm afraid that there really are no solid answers. I'm no theologan, nor a philosopher, just a guy who works for a living, so don't take my word for it. A slight consideration, though.

No two people share the exact definition of what, who, why, or how God is. Perhaps it is your intent to see how many varying opinions can be found, but I wouldn't know. Therefore, from a purely human standpoint, God is infinite, if only by the scope of the human imagination.

Also, I recommend asking a 5 year old to draw you a picture of God. While it really won't give you the answers you look for, it may prove some insight. Children seem to have a better grasp of God than anybody else, if only because they can draw pictures of him, whereas an adult will either look at you confusedly, say something snappy or witty without serious consideration, or tell you 'go ask over there'. Oh, no two 5 year olds will draw the same picture, so try to look at as many as you can, maybe there's some sort of clue.

In summation, there are answers to your questions. I don't have them, nor does anybody on Earth, nor anything in the universe. Oddly enough, only God knows.
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#9 Posted on 15.9.04 1344.33
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I don't believe in God and I'm not really looking for the truth. I just thought it might make an interesting semantic discussion, rather than a theological one.
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#10 Posted on 15.9.04 1418.44
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Read the Piers Anthony Immortal series. A very interesting "fictional" take on devine beings.
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#11 Posted on 15.9.04 1427.54
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God is one of us.
Just a slob like one of us.
Just a stranger on the bus.
Trying to make his way home.
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#12 Posted on 15.9.04 1442.06
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    Originally posted by Weevil
    I don't believe in God and I'm not really looking for the truth. I just thought it might make an interesting semantic discussion, rather than a theological one.


But you believe in something. What? God isn't semantics whether you believ or not. Whether you are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever, if you truly "believe" it's a deeply personal matter.

TinMan is correct, the Piers Anthony series is great.
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#13 Posted on 15.9.04 1503.41
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    Originally posted by Weevil
    I don't believe in God and I'm not really looking for the truth. I just thought it might make an interesting semantic discussion, rather than a theological one.
With all due respect, "I just thought it might make an interesting semantic discussion" KINDA sounds like a fancy way of saying "I am trolling."

Anyway, God is in the DETAILS, MAN.
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#14 Posted on 15.9.04 1622.25
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    I've often wondered the same thing ... why does really rotten stuff happen to good people and the scum of the world seem to sometimes have an easy life ... that's the one thing I wanna know ...

    (edited by Mayhem on 15.9.04 1020)


Lee Strobel goes into this subject in his book The Case for Faith, if you're interested in reading. He puts an interesting angle on things, I think.
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#15 Posted on 15.9.04 1901.03
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Don't forget The Big Bang is just a theory.
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#16 Posted on 15.9.04 1910.35
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    Originally posted by dwaters
    or my favorite - God will forever be George Burns in the role with John Denver in "Oh God" While promoting this movie Mr. Burns was asked about how he liked the role and he replied "It was typecasting"


About two weeks ago on the radio, I heard in an entertainment report on a news station, that Ellen DeGeneres will be the new God in an "Oh God" remake.

So, God is a lesbian.


(edited by Zeruel on 15.9.04 2012)
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#17 Posted on 16.9.04 0146.32
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Uh...I bet your local priest, minister or rabbi could shed a little light on the situation.
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#18 Posted on 16.9.04 0517.42
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    With all due respect, "I just thought it might make an interesting semantic discussion" KINDA sounds like a fancy way of saying "I am trolling."

    Anyway, God is in the DETAILS, MAN.


I wasn't trying to get people angry. my examples aren't my beliefs or an attempt to contradict anyone else's. they are just what ifs that i found interesting and thought others might also find interesting. apparently not.
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#19 Posted on 16.9.04 0613.13
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God is the Is-ness of the Is,
The One-ness of our Cosmic Biz,
The high, the low, the near, the far,
The atom and the evening star,
The lark, the shark, the cloud, the clod,
The whole darned Universe -- that's God.

-- Robert W. Service
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#20 Posted on 16.9.04 0752.29
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I guess you didn't watch "Penn & Teller's: Bulls&%t" about this. GOD is fake man.
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