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odessasteps
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#1 Posted on 27.3.02 1800.30
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The Chicago Cubs got a much-needed closer in Antonio Alfonseca. The Florida Marlins got some much-wanted payroll flexibility.

The Cubs, desperate for a relief ace since Tom Gordon was injured, acquired Alfonseca and pitcher Matt Clement from the Marlins in a six-player trade Wednesday.

Florida got pitcher Julian Tavarez and three minor leaguers -- pitchers Jose Cueto and Dontrelle Willis and catcher Ryan Jorgensen.

I love Fonzo, all twelve fingers and Linda Cohn-like twelve toes.


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#2 Posted on 27.3.02 1931.16
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Interesting pickup in Clement. Oh Guru...what may we expect from the former Padre?
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#3 Posted on 27.3.02 1944.32
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Matt pitches with a lot of emotion... and he throws the ball hard. If he can ever get his walk totals down, his ERA will drop tremendously.

PS > He's got huge ears. He's not going to win any beauty contests - but I have to admit I was sad to see Owens and Clement traded away at the beginning of last season. Kotsay turned out to be worth it though...

Clement could be a 15-20 game winner.
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#4 Posted on 27.3.02 2100.36
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This is going to be great.

With these pickups the Cubs stabilized the one area i thought they would be weak in- their pitching. Just like the Cardinals they upgraded their weaknesses and made themselves more than a contender. I'm definitely looking forward to some great Cards vs Cubs matchups.
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#5 Posted on 28.3.02 0932.51
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Why did Clement lash out at the Marlins when he was traded? I have to think the Cubs have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Marlins. And it's not like he is moving down in the rotation. He was the 5th starter in Florida, and will be the 5th starter in Chicago. Even so, he and Alfonseca are pretty good pickups for a team that really didn't give up much. When I heard about the trade, I thought the Cubs would have to give up Bobby Hill or Hee Seop Choi or some hot prospect like that. But I've never evven heard of the 3 minor leaguers they gave up.
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#6 Posted on 28.3.02 2249.16
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    The Chicago Cubs got a much-needed closer in Antonio Alfonseca. The Florida Marlins got some much-wanted payroll flexibility.

    The Cubs, desperate for a relief ace since Tom Gordon was injured, acquired Alfonseca and pitcher Matt Clement from the Marlins in a six-player trade Wednesday.

    Florida got pitcher Julian Tavarez and three minor leaguers -- pitchers Jose Cueto and Dontrelle Willis and catcher Ryan Jorgensen.




Ya know, this probably isn't the best way to introduce myself, but... Congratulations! You've just committed plagiarism. Next time, howsabout a link to the article you copy & pasted the first three grafs from?

Sorry. This sort of thing really hacks me off. Now, for Clement.

A. He has NASTY stuff. Like Guru said, if can stop walking people that he should be blowing away, he'll be damn good.

B. Big Kat: It's the CUBS. Seriously, I think Clement is more pissed that the Marlins have kept saying "We're trying to compete" and then they do something like this. From a baseball standpoint, this is a really, really dumb move by the Marlins.

edit: took out extra returns in blockquote.

(edited by Crimedog on 28.3.02 2350)
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#7 Posted on 29.3.02 1440.27
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Haha!!!

Welcome, Crimedog - I was wondering when you would show up.

Way to try to rip off a newspaper writer who reads the board
//edit: I took out your real name.
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#8 Posted on 30.3.02 0028.42
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I tend to be a wee bit angry when I spot someone blatantly ripping something off. If it's something I wrote -- and that's happened -- I tend to get violent. (Or, at least as violent as one can be in an e-mail/message board post.) The lesson? Links are your friends, boys and girls.

As for you wondering when I'd show up, have you been stalking me again? If so, do me a favor and trim the bushes after you're done hiding in them.

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#9 Posted on 30.3.02 0332.34
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Sheesh, whatever I knew you couldn't stay away forever.

Crimedog and I know each other from a different forum that I host. He's a legit newspaper writer.

Everyone say hi
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#10 Posted on 30.3.02 0426.20
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Welcome crimedog.... hope you enjoy your stay.

Just to be curious... what is the other forum Guru?
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#11 Posted on 30.3.02 0544.04
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It's a secret.

No, really. It is.

It's the group of people from my old ez-board and a lot of people from a few other ez-boards that I used to hang out at. We all sort of gave up on EZ board and switched over to my forum.

Anyway, we're admitted snobs It's not public in the sense that I'm trying very hard to keep it off of search engines and we don't advertise it. The first rule of Fight club, and all that.

So -- it's nothing you'd really be interested in, probably. Imagine the Random folder, except that only 20 of my friends post in it instead of everyone here.
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#12 Posted on 30.3.09 1220.54

    The Cubs, desperate for a relief ace since Tom Gordon was injured, acquired Alfonseca and pitcher Matt Clement from the Marlins in a six-player trade Wednesday.

    Florida got pitcher Julian Tavarez and three minor leaguers -- pitchers Jose Cueto and Dontrelle Willis and catcher Ryan Jorgensen.


Who knew? No one that day.

Not that it's turned out too well for him either the last few years (or this one: Willis on 15-day DL for anxiety)

Clement was good when he was healthy, but got hurt and still is trying to go back. Alfonseca was up and down. Still, they were useful while they were there. Typical Marlins trade, guys who are about to go up in salary for a bunch of prospects, just hoping one turns out.
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#13 Posted on 30.3.09 1641.26
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    It's a secret.

    No, really. It is.

    It's the group of people from my old ez-board and a lot of people from a few other ez-boards that I used to hang out at. We all sort of gave up on EZ board and switched over to my forum.

    Anyway, we're admitted snobs It's not public in the sense that I'm trying very hard to keep it off of search engines and we don't advertise it. The first rule of Fight club, and all that.

    So -- it's nothing you'd really be interested in, probably. Imagine the Random folder, except that only 20 of my friends post in it instead of everyone here.


I came across that forum years ago. I don't remember how. I think one of you left a link to it on one of your long-forgottten blogs. I remember seeing the space-themed comic that Lise and others were involved with, if that gives some idea of the timeframe.

But I didn't keep track of the link, and I lost it. It was like finding the lost city of Atlantis, and then when I tried to lead others to it, I couldn't remember how to navigate the subterranean maze that guarded its gates.
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#14 Posted on 30.3.02 1647.00
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Thanks for establishing my journalistic street cred, Guru.

And if the other forum is Fight Club, I get to be Tyler. (Brad Pitt Tyler, not Ed Norton "Oh shit! I'm Tyler?" Tyler.)
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#15 Posted on 22.4.09 1605.49

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