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dMp
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#21 Posted on 13.9.04 0406.28
Reposted on: 13.9.11 0409.01
    Originally posted by Dahak
    I for one would love Europe to get off it's ass and do something about the problems that they created. The Middle East was mainly created that way because England and France wanted to keep power so they set up these artificial countries with different tribes that hated each other. Then there is Africa were Europe completely fucked it up and then decided that if they weren't willing to be good little natives and do what the whities wanted fuck em you are on your own.
    By no means am I overlooking the US mistakes especially in the Caribbean but Europe just seems to be pissed that they are no longer in charge. Well get off your ass and do something then.


I don't understand what you are trying to say..
You mean 'we' hate America because you have the power to go to war against other nations?
You mean we should go conquer Africa again?

And what do you suggest Europe does about the things they did in Africa for instance? I believe half of the nations of Europe pay huge amounts of money to loads of countries to get their economy going (failing most of the time)
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#22 Posted on 13.9.04 0751.27
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Gee dMp did I say that Europe hated America. No I didn't. A lot of Europeans still wish they were on top. A lot of Europeans think they would do it better. So why not try to help out? I am not saying do as the US says but it seems more like they complain more than help out.
Africa is a very tricky situation. The truth is that there is no easy answer. I do wish that the rest of the world gave a crap about Africa and I include the US in that.
Loans don't work because whoever is in charge just uses the money to line their own pockets. But more humanitarian aid. More teachers. And yes some military forces to keep the mass murder down might be warranted.
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#23 Posted on 13.9.04 0759.04
Reposted on: 13.9.11 0759.28
    Originally posted by Dahak
    I for one would love Europe to get off it's ass and do something about the problems that they created. The Middle East was mainly created that way because England and France wanted to keep power so they set up these artificial countries with different tribes that hated each other. Then there is Africa were Europe completely fucked it up and then decided that if they weren't willing to be good little natives and do what the whities wanted fuck em you are on your own.
    By no means am I overlooking the US mistakes especially in the Caribbean but Europe just seems to be pissed that they are no longer in charge. Well get off your ass and do something then.


They still might be a little pissed in the Middle East because we cut their nuts off during the Suez Crisis in the 1950's. Until then Britain and France were the players in that part of the world. We made a deliberate effort to become the dominant power in that region because we feared Soviet influence with Nasser and The UAR. They, most of Africa, and the other nonaligned nations learned to play us vs the USSR for gain.

Britain and France did indeed cause alot of the problems in the Middle East but we have our share of blame also.

(edited by DrDirt on 13.9.04 0800)
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#24 Posted on 13.9.04 1703.16
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    Africa is a very tricky situation. The truth is that there is no easy answer. I do wish that the rest of the world gave a crap about Africa and I include the US in that.



Africa is a desert with no oil, no resources it's been stripped of all it's value other than the human lives still stuck there. I know people like to throw out the whole we went to Iraq to free the people arguement, but boy Africa sure has some real hard luck cases. I guess it's too bad for them that one of their country men didn't attack the US first, so they could be *liberated*.
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#25 Posted on 13.9.04 1831.38
Reposted on: 13.9.11 1831.51
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
      Wow, what a blowout. Bush is really in trouble now, what with all those electoral votes going right to Kerr... oh wait.

      Hey world, WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!! When YOU are the most powerful nation on the planet, how you think we should vote might matter a tiny Goddamn.




    I wouldn't mind this post if it wasn't for the fact that most Americans seem to alternate (or, dare I say, flip-flop) between "We're #1, we don't care!" and "We're America, we provide leadership for the rest of the world."

You know, I'd have thought the picture would be enough of a tip-off the response was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

Geez, and they say Republicans have no sense of humor.
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#26 Posted on 14.9.04 0816.38
Reposted on: 14.9.11 0819.04
    Originally posted by Tony Stewart

      Africa is a very tricky situation. The truth is that there is no easy answer. I do wish that the rest of the world gave a crap about Africa and I include the US in that.



    Africa is a desert with no oil, no resources it's been stripped of all it's value other than the human lives still stuck there. I know people like to throw out the whole we went to Iraq to free the people arguement, but boy Africa sure has some real hard luck cases. I guess it's too bad for them that one of their country men didn't attack the US first, so they could be *liberated*.


That is true of part of Africa. Other parts are verdant and resource rich, see Nigeria. The world is missing the boat by not aiding these peoples towards peace, security, eductation, and economic development.
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#27 Posted on 14.9.04 1819.33
Reposted on: 14.9.11 1821.23
    Originally posted by Tony Stewart
    Africa is a desert with no oil, no resources it's been stripped of all it's value other than the human lives still stuck there. I know people like to throw out the whole we went to Iraq to free the people arguement, but boy Africa sure has some real hard luck cases. I guess it's too bad for them that one of their country men didn't attack the US first, so they could be *liberated*.


I have seen some pretty ignorant statements on here, hell, I have made some of them. But jeez, this is the most ignorant post I believe I have ever read on this board. A dessert with no oil?
All its resources stripped?

http://www.goafrica.co.za/africa/general1.stm#wide
Look around, and please educate yourself a tad before making such absurd statements.


(edited by StaggerLee on 14.9.04 1620)
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