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#1 Posted on 29.8.04 2321.21
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A little bit of something for everyone there. I was left with a few thoughts.

1) The visual of the flag draped coffins was pretty effective in making their point.

2) By and large, the protestors were very civil, however...

3) About 20% of the people were flipping off the cameras, had messages like "Dick + Bush = Fucked" or were chanting Fox News sucks. I don't know how much this helps their cause overall, but I wasn't impressed.
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#2 Posted on 29.8.04 2351.22
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Anyone know what was up with the guys on bikes? My coverage of it was limited to my father mainlining WABC and WOR on the road, so they just MIGHT have their own views on the protesters (thankfully, I was spared Savage and the real asshats on the reactionary fringe).
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#3 Posted on 30.8.04 0240.20
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I wonder what the deal was with the burning float-- did someone actually light that ablaze, or was there some kind of accident?

It was pretty wild seeing all those protestors flooding the streets of NYC. Can't remember seeing this kind of large-scale protest (at least in the U.S.) in my lifetime.

When I saw 'em all in Times Square, I joked to my mom that they should break out the New Year's Eve ball and drop it, just for the heck of it. I also made a few pretty inappropriate suggestions of what they should do with the fire hoses.

In all seriousness, though, I'm glad to see the protests-- and I'm glad that there wasn't any violence. It's democracy at work, and it's a beautiful thing.
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#4 Posted on 30.8.04 0638.22
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    I wonder what the deal was with the burning float-- did someone actually light that ablaze, or was there some kind of accident?
You be the judge:
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Incidentally, this is probably not the image Kerry wants to see all over the place:
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#5 Posted on 30.8.04 0732.59
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Incidentally, this is probably not the image Kerry wants to see all over the place:
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Do you think that there are some protestors out there who are high-fiving these people because they think that they really are supporting Kerry?

It's actually a very fun website, if only because it's nice to see some conservatives with senses of humor that aren't all about "Michael Moore is a lardass" and "John Kerry looks like Lurch". http://www.communistsforkerry.com
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#6 Posted on 30.8.04 0734.39
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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    A little bit of something for everyone there. I was left with a few thoughts.

    1) The visual of the flag draped coffins was pretty effective in making their point.

    2) By and large, the protestors were very civil, however...

    3) About 20% of the people were flipping off the cameras, had messages like "Dick + Bush = Fucked" or were chanting Fox News sucks. I don't know how much this helps their cause overall, but I wasn't impressed.


I watched some and read stories where they interviewed the protestors and I have to say this will work much better for the democrats is they make sure non of the protestors are allowed to speak again. Jesus is this ever a collection of idiots(no, not all of them, just the ones getting interviewed it seems).

"Republicans, go home and kill your babies!" ---WTF?????

"I'm not voting for anyone, I'm just so disallusioned. I just wanted to come out and protest." --She didn't even really have anything specific to be protesting when pressed.

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#7 Posted on 30.8.04 0747.25
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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    A little bit of something for everyone there. I was left with a few thoughts.

    1) The visual of the flag draped coffins was pretty effective in making their point.

    2) By and large, the protestors were very civil, however...

    3) About 20% of the people were flipping off the cameras, had messages like "Dick + Bush = Fucked" or were chanting Fox News sucks. I don't know how much this helps their cause overall, but I wasn't impressed.


The Flag stuff WAS powerful Guru. I didn't get to see too much of the coverage but this picture is just compelling:
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THAT really drives home the idea that so many have been lost in the line of duty.
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#8 Posted on 30.8.04 1325.16
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Incidentally, this is probably not the image Kerry wants to see all over the place:
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That chick looks like Lisa Kudrow.
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#9 Posted on 30.8.04 1326.25
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    That chick looks like Lisa Kudrow.
I thought the same thing...

(edited by Grimis on 30.8.04 1426)
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#10 Posted on 30.8.04 1607.52
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Where are the Hell's Angels when you need 'em?

Just finished watching what I think is an abbreviated version of what you watched. The brief shots I seen was pretty much peaceful, though I thought that black lady was going to kill the young Hispanic girl, when the girl said something about racism.

Peaceful or not, we all know how images of Palestinian flags, rainbow banners, and RED headbands, sit with most outside NYC, San Fran and Canada? (The last of which can't vote in US elections) Not saying Kerry wears a RED headband, but the association has great potential to do harm in this election, more than other recent elections, if someone chooses to underhandedly milk it.



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#11 Posted on 30.8.04 2134.47
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    Originally posted by drjayphd
    Anyone know what was up with the guys on bikes? My coverage of it was limited to my father mainlining WABC and WOR on the road, so they just MIGHT have their own views on the protesters (thankfully, I was spared Savage and the real asshats on the reactionary fringe).


A guy I know got arrested during the critical mass ride (www.times-up.org) You can read about his account of it here

www.satanslaundromat.com

It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.

(edited by MoeGates on 30.8.04 2244)
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#12 Posted on 30.8.04 2154.10
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
      Originally posted by drjayphd
      Anyone know what was up with the guys on bikes? My coverage of it was limited to my father mainlining WABC and WOR on the road, so they just MIGHT have their own views on the protesters (thankfully, I was spared Savage and the real asshats on the reactionary fringe).


    A guy I know got arrested during the critical mass ride (www.times-up.org) You can read about his account of it here

    www.satanslaundromat.com

    It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.

    (edited by MoeGates on 30.8.04 2244)






To be fair, the Democratic Convention shut down highways into Boston, causing businesses to shut down and caused many of the citizens to flee for a week.
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#13 Posted on 30.8.04 2300.39
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.


Moe, why do you keep feeling the need to speak for New Yorkers?

I work ON 7th Avenue, THREE blocks from the Garden. Instead of walking from the F train, up 32nd & down 7th to my office as I normally do, I had to walk down sixth & up 29th instead.

Big friggin deal.

Considering the nature of the event going on at MSG & the potential target it could provide to terrorists, anarchists, or any other random morons, it's not that big a deal to accept the extra security measures. Seriously, I respect your opinions, even if they often differ from mine, but you're getting a little too bent out of shape over something that is not that surprising or unexpected...
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#14 Posted on 31.8.04 0629.03
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.
Uh, wasn't it the Democrats who herded all of their protesters in a steel cage?
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#15 Posted on 31.8.04 1419.54
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.

    (edited by MoeGates on 30.8.04 2244)


I see something pretty Un-American in kicking the crap out of a police officer. Oh, wait. I mean, Hooray for the brave Democrats who beat down the agent of the Republican-controlled aggressors!

I'm sorry, man, but you lose ALL credibility when you try to claim that taking security for a political convention seriously means that this country has become the Soviet Union. Here's a hint as to the difference: Your family would be getting billed for the bullet right about now if you had criticized the powers-that-be in the USSR.

And I don't think the protestors realize that stirring shit up _ setting things on fire, attacking cops and generally making a nuisance of themselves _ is the WORST thing they can do right now. If I'm John Kerry, I'm distancing myself from these folks just as fast as I can because the hardcore left _ just like the hardcore right _ DOESN'T MATTER in this election. The middle ground will decide it, and the middle ground has little-to-no tolerance for this sort of action.

You want to protest Bush? Fine. Go for it. I'm no big fan of his either. But setting stuff on fire and punching cops doesn't make me respect your viewpoint more; it makes me respect it a hell of a lot less. And if you're showing up to protest just because you're a professional protester, go home and come back later when you've decided on a legitimate beef.
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#16 Posted on 31.8.04 1449.20
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    Originally posted by Crimedog
      Originally posted by MoeGates
      It completely pissed me off that my town has turned into the Soviet Union because the precious Republicans can't handle some good old "Fuck You's." Walking down 7th Avenue in the 30s (the part of it you can walk down) is scary and depressing, and disgusting. I literally almost vomited. You Republicans have created a country where you have to hold your Party's convention in a fortress. If you don't see something seriously Un-American about that, there is no hope left for you.

      (edited by MoeGates on 30.8.04 2244)


    I see something pretty Un-American in kicking the crap out of a police officer. Oh, wait. I mean, Hooray for the brave Democrats who beat down the agent of the Republican-controlled aggressors!

    I'm sorry, man, but you lose ALL credibility when you try to claim that taking security for a political convention seriously means that this country has become the Soviet Union. Here's a hint as to the difference: Your family would be getting billed for the bullet right about now if you had criticized the powers-that-be in the USSR.

    And I don't think the protestors realize that stirring shit up _ setting things on fire, attacking cops and generally making a nuisance of themselves _ is the WORST thing they can do right now. If I'm John Kerry, I'm distancing myself from these folks just as fast as I can because the hardcore left _ just like the hardcore right _ DOESN'T MATTER in this election. The middle ground will decide it, and the middle ground has little-to-no tolerance for this sort of action.

    You want to protest Bush? Fine. Go for it. I'm no big fan of his either. But setting stuff on fire and punching cops doesn't make me respect your viewpoint more; it makes me respect it a hell of a lot less. And if you're showing up to protest just because you're a professional protester, go home and come back later when you've decided on a legitimate beef.

A lot of the folks at these protests don't have much love for Kerry either. These are generally the hardcore radicals who have abandoned either party and if they vote at all it will be for Nader. As a Dem I don't much care for them as sadly the media will paint them as being "Kerry's people" rather than as "angry college students and other nutjobs who represent at most a very tiny fringe of the Democratic Party"
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#17 Posted on 2.9.04 1331.04
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Is that communist chick Phoebe or her twin sister Ursula.

The flags on the coffins being marched down the street was the most visually effective protest.

The most fun protest has to go for the guy in the Cheney mask with people in pig snouts worshipping him, bathing Cheney with money... No Cheney in the AP photo, so disappointing

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