The W
Views: 100904146
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
27.11.07 0833
The 7 - Current Events & Politics - Hamas Operative caught doing surveillance of Chesapeake Bay Bridge
This thread has 4 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
(748 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (12 total)
Grimis
Scrapple
Level: 124

Posts: 3801/4700
EXP: 21667744
For next: 168918

Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1304 days
Last activity: 1101 days
#1 Posted on 25.8.04 0609.34
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0611.31
Just so everybody realizes that terror is terror...

    Originally posted by Stephanie Hanes, Julie Bykowicz, and Alec MacGillis in the 8/25/04 Baltimore Sun
    Federal investigators say they believe that footage of the Bay Bridge shot Friday by the wife of a one-time fund-raiser for the militant group Hamas was "reconnaissance and surveillance" for a possible terrorist attack.

    Police stopped Ismail Selim Elbarasse and his family near the bridge after three off-duty Baltimore County officers spotted his wife videotaping from their car.

    Authorities said in court papers that the images included close-ups of cables and support features "integral to the structural integrity of the bridge."

    Investigators said they believe six other videotapes discovered in his car contain footage or images of the Bay Bridge and other structures or potential targets, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Baltimore in support of a search warrant executed at the couple's house in Annandale, Va.
Here's what has people worried...
    Originally posted by Dan Fesperman in the 8/25/04 Baltimore Sun
    But all along, the organization's leaders have been adamant that they intend only to fight a one-front war, limiting casualties to Israel and the occupied territories even while seeking money and support worldwide.

    That's why an alleged Hamas reconnaissance of Maryland's Bay Bridge has set off alarms among U.S. counterterrorism investigators. Although the videotaping of the bridge may turn out to be vacation footage from a family beach trip, authorities are treating the tape in the worst possible light - as a potential link between Hamas and al-Qaida, which has its sights set on death and destruction in the United States.
This is why there is a general War on Terror, not a general war on people who have attacked us before. Sure, one can argue that this was an overreaction, but this is a great proactive action to work to stop something before it starts...
Promote this thread!
StaggerLee
Scrapple
Level: 141

Posts: 1825/6363
EXP: 33812058
For next: 308040

Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 16 hours
#2 Posted on 25.8.04 0759.44
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0800.21
Or, Hammas could exchange video footage to other groups in exchange for any number of things as well.

DrOp
Frankfurter
Level: 60

Posts: 658/859
EXP: 1728203
For next: 44585

Since: 2.1.02

Since last post: 2270 days
Last activity: 1136 days
#3 Posted on 25.8.04 0759.55
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0801.20
The Feds have already shot down the "vacation footage" bullshit.
    Originally posted by The WBALChannel.com
    According to the court documents, the pictures the wife had taken did include family vacation footage, but also specific parts of the bridge -- including the cables and support systems. The court documents said that portions of the footage zoomed in on the bridge joints of the main support span that are integral to the structural integrity of the bridge.
Grimis
Scrapple
Level: 124

Posts: 3810/4700
EXP: 21667744
For next: 168918

Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1304 days
Last activity: 1101 days
#4 Posted on 25.8.04 0807.47
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0808.05
Incidentally, I am really pissed at the MdTA Police right now for require off-duty Baltimore County cops to notice this. The worst part was McIlhenney on WBAL yesterday so proud of himself for helping bring this guy down. All the MdTA cops did was arrest him...
StaggerLee
Scrapple
Level: 141

Posts: 1826/6363
EXP: 33812058
For next: 308040

Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 16 hours
#5 Posted on 25.8.04 0815.59
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0816.30
I dont care if its the girl scouts that catch them, as long as somebody can put the cuffs on these scum.
spf
Scrapple
Level: 133

Posts: 2900/5404
EXP: 27268023
For next: 584717

Since: 2.1.02
From: The Las Vegas of Canada

Since last post: 25 days
Last activity: 8 hours
AIM:  
#6 Posted on 25.8.04 0916.00
Reposted on: 25.8.11 0917.02
It's also possible this could be someone who is working for more than one group, or is someone who is working on his own hoping to do something with Al-Qaeda or attempting to convince some other group to attack in America. While I'm glad this guy is in custody, I think that to make the leap to Hamas and Al-Qaeda working together or that Hamas is opening up a U.S. branch office may be a bit hasty. It's something to keep an eye on, but I'd like to see more evidence before we upgrade Hamas to the same level of threat as Al-Qaeda.
The Thrill
Banger
Level: 99

Posts: 1293/2781
EXP: 9955797
For next: 44238

Since: 16.4.02
From: Green Bay, WI

Since last post: 224 days
Last activity: 70 days
#7 Posted on 25.8.04 1201.13
Reposted on: 25.8.11 1201.35
Or even scarier...maybe this dude was part of a Hamas plot to actually punish the US for its support of Israel, and launch a terror attack in the USA.

Maybe it's not a joint operation with Al-Qaeda...maybe it's Hamas deciding to open a second front in its battle with Israel and her allies...namely, us.

And if that's the case, I say we let Israel absolutely ERADICATE THEM.
DrDirt
Banger
Level: 96

Posts: 1141/2706
EXP: 8978049
For next: 10770

Since: 8.10.03
From: flyover country

Since last post: 20 hours
Last activity: 20 hours
#8 Posted on 25.8.04 1428.45
Reposted on: 25.8.11 1429.01
    Originally posted by The Thrill
    Or even scarier...maybe this dude was part of a Hamas plot to actually punish the US for its support of Israel, and launch a terror attack in the USA.

    Maybe it's not a joint operation with Al-Qaeda...maybe it's Hamas deciding to open a second front in its battle with Israel and her allies...namely, us.

    And if that's the case, I say we let Israel absolutely ERADICATE THEM.


Please go ahead and try. It sounds good but you can never accomplish it. If that worked, would Israel still be fighting with the Palestinians?
ShotGunShep
Frankfurter
Level: 59

Posts: 535/836
EXP: 1584605
For next: 88533

Since: 20.2.03

Since last post: 2572 days
Last activity: 2459 days
#9 Posted on 25.8.04 1429.32
Reposted on: 25.8.11 1429.52
I doubt that Hamas has the funding to pull off a major attack on our soil alone. They'd have to get funding from a sponsoring state(or Al Qaeda) which would open up a whole new can o worms.
PalpatineW
Lap cheong
Level: 77

Posts: 1204/1528
EXP: 4099880
For next: 91268

Since: 2.1.02
From: Getting Rowdy

Since last post: 2865 days
Last activity: 2707 days
AIM:  
#10 Posted on 25.8.04 1631.30
Reposted on: 25.8.11 1631.47
    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    I doubt that Hamas has the funding to pull off a major attack on our soil alone. They'd have to get funding from a sponsoring state(or Al Qaeda) which would open up a whole new can o worms.


Not to drag this into an Iraq discussion, but our buddy Saddam was known to send them money.

You think terrorists are like wrestling fans? Are there tape-trading sites out there?

"Oh, man... best of American bridges! I'll trade you my Saudi oil field tapes!"
Grimis
Scrapple
Level: 124

Posts: 3812/4700
EXP: 21667744
For next: 168918

Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1304 days
Last activity: 1101 days
#11 Posted on 25.8.04 1758.46
Reposted on: 25.8.11 1758.53
    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    Not to drag this into an Iraq discussion, but our buddy Saddam was known to send them money.
Remember, Saddam did not support international terrorism(Copyright Democratic National Committee, 2004)
The Thrill
Banger
Level: 99

Posts: 1295/2781
EXP: 9955797
For next: 44238

Since: 16.4.02
From: Green Bay, WI

Since last post: 224 days
Last activity: 70 days
#12 Posted on 26.8.04 1035.28
Reposted on: 26.8.11 1035.36
    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by PalpatineW
      Not to drag this into an Iraq discussion, but our buddy Saddam was known to send them money.
    Remember, Saddam did not support international terrorism(Copyright Democratic National Committee, 2004)


Certainly not. After all, he only sent $25,000 to the families of each Palestinian suicide bomber after they did their deed and killed innocents.

    Originally posted by DrDirt
    Please go ahead and try. It sounds good but you can never accomplish it. If that worked, would Israel still be fighting with the Palestinians?


It's worth a shot...or a whole volley. Instead of maybe shaking our finger at them when they let loose a couple of helicopter-launched missiles to knock out top Hamas officials, or maybe Arafat himself, perhaps we oughta support and encourage them in their war against Islamic terrorists...seeing as how we're fighting one too...
ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE
Thread ahead: Explosives found in both Russian Airliners
Next thread: Cheney: Let States Decide on Gay Marriage
Previous thread: CBS News Poll: Race is Dead Heat
(748 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
The 7 - Current Events & Politics - Hamas Operative caught doing surveillance of Chesapeake Bay BridgeRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.221 seconds.