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#41 Posted on 26.8.04 1950.07
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    Originally posted by CRZ


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r107:1:./temp/~r107h78LD4:e102508:

Don't think you'll find anything interesting in there...?
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What were you searching, Chris - it's time sensitive and I couldn't execute your link.

I eventually found Kerry's Sept 12 statements - he was about the only Senator wo didn't rise to praise the president. Him and Mrs. Boxer, I think.
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#42 Posted on 26.8.04 2112.11
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    Originally posted by Leroy
      Originally posted by Pool-Boy
      My Rep is Ken Calvert. Aside from supporting the idiotic "Great Park" issue (really local), which was just retarded,


    The "Great Park" was sure a hell of a lot better than building a bloody airport out of El Toro Marine Base. That whole thing just wreaked of Newport Beach/Donald Bren folks trying to move all John Wayne traffic to a different part of the county.

    And Aliso Viejo would have been really screwed by the noise pollution.

    Curious as to what you would have preferred there....


I lived in Aliso Viejo at the time, just as a precursor.

And yeah, I was in favor of the airport. I lived a few blocks from the John Wayne airport for a few months, and didn't find the noise pollution to be that big of an issue. Yes, there was SOME, but not enough to be overblown the way it was. None of the arguments against the airport, to me, seemed to be anything more than sensationalism. The airport would have been a big help to the county, it would have eased traffic in certain areas, eased congestion inside the airports, and would have helped the local economies. Orange County NEEDS more airports, or to make John Wayne bigger, and I thought that turning El Toro into an airport would not be such a bad idea.

But I wasn't married to the idea. Unfortunately, the Park was the only alternative really given. And that thing was just a giant tax sinkhole waiting to happen. Hey, I like parks as much as the next guy, but one that size that would cost as much as it was going to that would not benefit the county in any way aside from looking pretty? Not the route I wanted to go.

I was leaning towards the airport idea, but I was patiently waiting for a third option...
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#43 Posted on 27.8.04 0214.43
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A) I'm voting for Kerry/Edwards.

B) EddieFamous -- of course Illinois isn't going to get pol money right away; we're not a hotly contested state. I'm happy Alan Keyes accepted the GOP's invitation because it's forcing Obama to spend ad money and because it's fun to hear what's going to come out of his mouth next.

That said, war is hell. Kerry admitted what he did. He showed up to fight at least, IMO.
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#44 Posted on 27.8.04 0813.16
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My mind was made up a long, long time ago, but the final nail in the coffin was when Joe Lieberman dropped out of the Democratic nomination race. At that point, I knew that I could get behind any of the remaining candidates, and that all would be an improvement over the current administration.

Were any of the potential nominees perfect, much less a close match to my own beliefs and ideals? Not necessarily. But I have to consider that a vote for Kerry is not just a vote for Kerry -- it's a vote to remove Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, Perle, Ashcroft, Powell, Ridge, Wolfowitz AND Rove from positions of power and influence. It's a vote to give the Democrats a much more significant ability to gridlock the Republican agenda; a Dem preznit facing two Repub houses of Congress won't be able to enact an uberprogressive agenda, but he will be able to help squelch the more objectionable bills that emerge. It's a vote to have someone other than Bush & Co. nominating judges for the next four years.

I'm up for that.

Of course, I live in Pennsylvania, so Kerry, Specter, and my asshat local rep (Weldon) will win easily.
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#45 Posted on 27.8.04 0821.50
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    Originally posted by vsp
    I'm up for that.

    Of course, I live in Pennsylvania, so Kerry, Specter, and my asshat local rep (Weldon) will win easily.



Don't be so sure about Specter. Joe Hoeffel is only polling about ten points behind him - and that's with no advertisements or name recognition yet. Considering how disillusioned the GOP's conservative base has been with Arlen - he barely made it through the primaries - he's got more than a decent chance of losing.

Kerry does seem like a lock at this point.

EDIT: I bet this'll get some media attention for Hoeffel...

(edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 27.8.04 0924)
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#46 Posted on 27.8.04 0910.23
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Don't be so sure about Specter. Joe Hoeffel is only polling about ten points behind him - and that's with no advertisements or name recognition yet. Considering how disillusioned the GOP's conservative base has been with Arlen - he barely made it through the primaries - he's got more than a decent chance of losing.


While I'd love to see Hoeffel pull the upset, I just don't see it happening unless Hoeffel does something to _massively_ get on Pennsylvanians' radar. Specter is an (unfortunate) institution, is rather bland, and hasn't done much that would drive even many anti-Bush people into a "I must go out and VOTE AGAINST THIS MAN" fervor.

Honestly, if I'd crossed over to vote in the Republican primary, I'd have voted for Specter instead of Toomey because I don't know that TOOMEY wouldn't have beaten Hoeffel in November. Sure, Toomey's a major-league wingnut, but in an unknown-vs-unknown battle, there are few safe assumptions, and the Santorum wing of the Pennsylvania GOP would work hard to get the vote out for their fellow traveler. (They couldn't push too hard for Toomey in the primary for risk of offending Specter, a senior GOPper, but if he'd been knocked off, all bets would've been off.)
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