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#1 Posted on 11.8.04 0215.10
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http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040811-123531-3824r.htm

    Originally posted by WashTimes
    "The goal of the next attack is twofold: to damage the U.S. economy and to undermine the U.S. election," the official said. "The view of al Qaeda is 'anybody but Bush.' "


Apparently they're getting their intel from Michael al-Moore.

Joking aside, this does seem rather serious. Planning "at the screwdriver level;" attempts on American leaders and on allied leaders. Of course, any terror alert comes with the caveat that they have been unable to pull anything off on our soil in close to three years, now. Here's hoping we catch the rest of these bastards.
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#2 Posted on 11.8.04 0234.38
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040811-123531-3824r.htm

      Originally posted by WashTimes
      "The goal of the next attack is twofold: to damage the U.S. economy and to undermine the U.S. election," the official said. "The view of al Qaeda is 'anybody but Bush.' "


    Apparently they're getting their intel from Michael al-Moore.

    Joking aside, this does seem rather serious. Planning "at the screwdriver level;" attempts on American leaders and on allied leaders. Of course, any terror alert comes with the caveat that they have been unable to pull anything off on our soil in close to three years, now. Here's hoping we catch the rest of these bastards.


Question is: Have they been unable or just laying low?
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#3 Posted on 11.8.04 0349.38
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Gotta love how the picture says, “10 out of 10 terrorists agree, anybody but Bush,” which has the effect of lumping anyone who votes against Bush in with al-Qaeda. Hey, guys... I'm not voting for Bush, just like I didn't vote for him the first time, just like most of America didn't vote for him the first time-- that doesn't make me a terrorist. It simply makes me somebody who, quite frankly, thinks Dubya is a douchebag.

Was that graphic really necessary?
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#4 Posted on 11.8.04 0710.07
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Does anyone honestly believe they won't try to attack us with Kerry in charge. Does that mean if Gore won, there would be no Sept. 11th? I know they probably hate Bush, probably the only thing some of us have in common with Al Queda, but seriously, they will try again regardless who is in charge. They attacked when Clinton was around, so which party is in charge doesn;t matter. I think people have got to come to the realization Al Queda will be around for awhile and the Bush Administration won't be in three months or four years. I'd rather change our war strategy now then wait four years for Bush to get bored and invade another country.
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#5 Posted on 11.8.04 0710.56
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Gotta love how the picture says, “10 out of 10 terrorists agree, anybody but Bush,” which has the effect of lumping anyone who votes against Bush in with al-Qaeda. Hey, guys... I'm not voting for Bush, just like I didn't vote for him the first time, just like most of America didn't vote for him the first time-- that doesn't make me a terrorist. It simply makes me somebody who, quite frankly, thinks Dubya is a douchebag.

    Was that graphic really necessary?


You sound suprised. It's from The Moonie Times. They make Fox News seem almost like a legitimate news source.
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#6 Posted on 11.8.04 0807.18
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    Originally posted by A Fan
    Does anyone honestly believe they won't try to attack us with Kerry in charge. Does that mean if Gore won, there would be no Sept. 11th? I know they probably hate Bush, probably the only thing some of us have in common with Al Queda, but seriously, they will try again regardless who is in charge. They attacked when Clinton was around, so which party is in charge doesn;t matter. I think people have got to come to the realization Al Queda will be around for awhile and the Bush Administration won't be in three months or four years. I'd rather change our war strategy now then wait four years for Bush to get bored and invade another country.
No. They will continue to attack us.

However, I do believe they will attack us with an increased zeal because of Clinton's past inaction to terrorist attacks. The fact of the matter is that al-Qeada figured that 9/11 would not elicit the response it did. A major tactical miscalculation on their part I'd say.
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#7 Posted on 11.8.04 0815.58
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by A Fan
      Does anyone honestly believe they won't try to attack us with Kerry in charge. Does that mean if Gore won, there would be no Sept. 11th? I know they probably hate Bush, probably the only thing some of us have in common with Al Queda, but seriously, they will try again regardless who is in charge. They attacked when Clinton was around, so which party is in charge doesn;t matter. I think people have got to come to the realization Al Queda will be around for awhile and the Bush Administration won't be in three months or four years. I'd rather change our war strategy now then wait four years for Bush to get bored and invade another country.
    No. They will continue to attack us.

    However, I do believe they will attack us with an increased zeal because of Clinton's past inaction to terrorist attacks. The fact of the matter is that al-Qeada figured that 9/11 would not elicit the response it did. A major tactical miscalculation on their part I'd say.


I agree. There's no way they thought that 9/11 would lead to the US overthrowing a completely unrelated dictatorship that Bin Laden hated as much as we did. Sure, Bush talked about Bin Laden enough to make him a beloved hero in much of the Middle East then, when push came to shove, backed off him to go after another guy who, while an evil fuck, ran a military dictatorship, not an Islamic fundamentalist dictatorship, and therefore was considered just as much an enemy of Al Queda as we are. It really couldn't have gone better for him.

(edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 11.8.04 0916)
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#8 Posted on 11.8.04 0821.26
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How stupid do you think Bin Laden is? He is not an idiot. I wouldn't be suprised at all if getting U.S. ground forces in hostile areas wasn't the plan at all. I do agree we should go after him, but are we? We are waisting our time in Iraqi when we don't know if Bin Laden is even alive or dead or still in the Middle East. I'd rather get Bin Laden, stuck in his head on a pike in the middle of the Twin Towers and put a sign that says, "This is what you get when you fuck with us." Instead we get an ongoing ground war in a country that had nothing to do with Sept. 11th. It makes no sense. They don't want to catch Bin Laden, because if he is still alive, he is still a political figure they can scapegoat and say if you don't vote for us, he'll come and get you. That is who this President is, he'd rather install fear than hope.
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#9 Posted on 11.8.04 0907.57
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"Anybody but Bush?" Is that article implying that Al Qaeda plans to assassinate George Bush? Think, people.

Strategically, attacking President Bush makes absolutely no sense if they don't want him re-elected. An attack on Bush would only garner sympathy for the candidate and propell him to another win. In fact, they would only attack Bush if they WANTED him to win.

Al-Qaeda is in shambles right now, and a mere assassination isn't going to do anything significant to our economy unless they assassinate Alan Greenspan.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 11.8.04 0708)
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#10 Posted on 11.8.04 1111.56
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    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    "Anybody but Bush?" Is that article implying that Al Qaeda plans to assassinate George Bush? Think, people.

    Strategically, attacking President Bush makes absolutely no sense if they don't want him re-elected. An attack on Bush would only garner sympathy for the candidate and propell him to another win. In fact, they would only attack Bush if they WANTED him to win.

    Al-Qaeda is in shambles right now, and a mere assassination isn't going to do anything significant to our economy unless they assassinate Alan Greenspan.

    (edited by SKLOKAZOID on 11.8.04 0708)


I can't guess at their motivations, but look at Spain. They attacked the party that supported the war, and said, basically, "this is what happens." Aznar lost, Spain started planning its withdrawal.

Do you think anyone here would change their mind? If the RNC gets blown up, or someone tries to, there won't be sympathy. The left will simply blame the president, as they have been doing essentially since he took office.

    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Gotta love how the picture says, “10 out of 10 terrorists agree, anybody but Bush,” which has the effect of lumping anyone who votes against Bush in with al-Qaeda. Hey, guys... I'm not voting for Bush, just like I didn't vote for him the first time, just like most of America didn't vote for him the first time-- that doesn't make me a terrorist. It simply makes me somebody who, quite frankly, thinks Dubya is a douchebag.

    Was that graphic really necessary?


Eh? What graphic? The only image I see in the article I link to is a file photo of Osama.

(edited by PalpatineW on 11.8.04 1214)
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#11 Posted on 11.8.04 1143.51
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
      Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      "Anybody but Bush?" Is that article implying that Al Qaeda plans to assassinate George Bush? Think, people.

      Strategically, attacking President Bush makes absolutely no sense if they don't want him re-elected. An attack on Bush would only garner sympathy for the candidate and propell him to another win. In fact, they would only attack Bush if they WANTED him to win.

      (edited by PalpatineW on 11.8.04 1214)


    why would the terrorists want bush out? they are recruiting new people faster than they can find jobs for them.
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#12 Posted on 11.8.04 1241.52
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The simple fact that our enemy does not want Bush, makes me vote for Bush.
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#13 Posted on 11.8.04 1247.10
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    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    The simple fact that our enemy does not want Bush, makes me vote for Bush.


I'd like to thank you for illustrating my point so much better than I possibly could.
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#14 Posted on 11.8.04 1320.21
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To sat Iraq had no Al Qaeda ties is stupid!

I admit we (the United States) put weapons in not only Bin Laden's hands, and Iraq's hands but also our newer old enemy Iran and Korea.

Voting on the enemy's biggest fear is not stupid, but more a strategic fact. Ronald Reagan was not known (until he died) as intellectual man. He was known as a political factor, just like Bush; When push comes to shove don't screw with Bush.

If we were attacked again with Bush in command, and a member of Al Qaeda were squinting their eyes at a video camera that saw the attack, we would attack an Asian country. There is nothing wrong with that; It protects our way of life.

Kerry will have his buttons pushed if elected, just like Carter. I like Kerry's idea, but I like the stability that Bush will bring back.
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#15 Posted on 11.8.04 1328.00
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    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Kerry will have his buttons pushed if elected, just like Carter.


Carter had his buttons pushed as president because he was an absolute outsider and didn't quite know how politics inside the beltway worked, and being Gov of Georgia doesn't prepare you for that, and the people he did entrust as his liasans weren't up to snuff.

ON-TOPIC: I can't prove it, but this smells like a planted story. It's close enough to being out of the GOP's mid-term election playbook that it makes you wonder who gave the Times this story.
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#16 Posted on 11.8.04 1341.34
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    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Voting on the enemy's biggest fear is not stupid, but more a strategic fact. Ronald Reagan was not known (until he died) as intellectual man. He was known as a political factor, just like Bush; When push comes to shove don't screw with Bush.


The assertion that President Bush is a beacon of fear to terrorists, and especially Al Qaeda, is pretty flawed to say the least.

The fact that Osama Bin Laden's capture hasn't happened since 9/11 leads me to believe that Al Qaeda, with its mysterious mastermind (who may be dead for all we know) isn't afraid. In fact, people who are willing to pilot planes into buildings aren't afraid. They're fully willing and capable of dying for their cause, and taking several of us out with them.

Our objective is to remove them of their capability, not make them cower in fear.

Who is telling you that Al Qaeda is afraid of Bush? Certainly not Al Qaeda. It's the people who want to get re-elected.

But, hey, at least my Land Shark Repellant works.


    If we were attacked again with Bush in command, and a member of Al Qaeda were squinting their eyes at a video camera that saw the attack, we would attack an Asian country. There is nothing wrong with that; It protects our way of life.

There is plenty wrong with that, and not even this Administration is that crazy.

If we ever launched an attack like that, it sounds like Bush isn't the biggest fear of our enemy, but rather our percieved enemy is our biggest fear.


    Kerry will have his buttons pushed if elected, just like Carter. I like Kerry's idea, but I like the stability that Bush will bring back.


I think there is more stability with a Democrat President and a Republican Congress. Checks and balances are what keeps our system strong, not groupthink.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 11.8.04 1146)

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 11.8.04 1146)
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#17 Posted on 11.8.04 1439.13
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OPB Top10Pro

    If we were attacked again with Bush in command, and a member of Al Qaeda were squinting their eyes at a video camera that saw the attack, we would attack an Asian country. There is nothing wrong with that; It protects our way of life.


Dude. You must get smarter.
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#18 Posted on 11.8.04 1710.28
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by TopTenPro
      The simple fact that our enemy does not want Bush, makes me vote for Bush.


    I'd like to thank you for illustrating my point so much better than I possibly could.


What, exactly, is your point?
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#19 Posted on 11.8.04 1743.40
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
        Originally posted by TopTenPro
        The simple fact that our enemy does not want Bush, makes me vote for Bush.


      I'd like to thank you for illustrating my point so much better than I possibly could.


    What, exactly, is your point?


TTP: "The simple fact that our enemy does not want Bush, makes me vote for Bush."

Bush, et al: "Yay! It worked! If they think Osama & Friends are afraid of us, they'll vote for us!"
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