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#1 Posted on 6.8.04 1350.22
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Interesting:
    Originally posted by Reuters, 8/6/2004
    Geographer Ulf Erlingsson, whose book explaining his theory will be published next month, says the measurements, geography, and landscape of Atlantis as described by Plato match Ireland almost exactly.

    "I am amazed no one has come up with this before, it's incredible," he told Reuters.

    "Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest across the middle. They both have a central plain surrounded by mountains.

    "I've looked at geographical data from the rest of the world and of the 50 largest islands there is only one that has a plain in the middle -- Ireland."

    Erlingsson believes the idea that Atlantis sank came from the fate of Dogger Bank, an isolated shoal in the North Sea, about 60 miles off the northeastern coast of England, which sank after being hit by a huge flood wave around 6,100 B.C.

    "I suspect that myth came from Ireland and it derives from Dogger Bank. I think the memory of Dogger Bank was probably preserved in Ireland for around 3,000 years and became mixed up with the story of Atlantis," he said.


Makes a lot more since than it being currently covered by the sea...
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#2 Posted on 6.8.04 1508.21
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Does this make me half Atlantisian?
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#3 Posted on 6.8.04 1512.22
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Well, thats a good theory. My question is this, didn't Plato say he saw the destruction of Atlantis from where he was. I do remember an Ancient Histories class discuss, he was one of the few crediable sources for the Atlantis theory. It would seem odd that a Greek could see the destruction of an island to Ireland, the logistic don't match up.

Grimis, I bash you for the political stuff, but this is a great article. Thanks for posting it.
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#4 Posted on 6.8.04 1601.02
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Wasn't Atlantis also made of up a bunch of islands in concentric circles?

Didn't somebody find Atlantis in the Carribean (Bimini Road) Or near Greece (the isle of Thera, I believe).

I've always thought that the story was just a morality tale, and nothing more.
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#5 Posted on 6.8.04 1729.38
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And how will this news affect Lucky Charms cereal?
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#6 Posted on 6.8.04 1930.36
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According to the latest dicovery channel special on the subject, Atlantis was the Minoan culture on the island of Crete off the coast of Greece with it's navy stationed at the nearby island of Santerini in the Aegean Sea.
Recent geologic surveys show that around 1670BC the (still) active volcano at Santerini erupted in porportions equal to or greater than the Krakatoa eruption in Indonesia in the late 1800's. The resulting pyroclastic flow obliterated the harbor, burying the city and sinking the navy. The tidal wave created hit the shores of Crete and did significant damage. The poisonous cloud of ash blocked out the sun, covered things in ash, and caused lingering health problems. The whole economy of the Minoans crashed and about 50 years later, Greek mainlanders known as Myceneans invaded Crete and set fire to the remaining Minoan cities. That essentially ended Minoan civilization.
They had been very advanced for their time, having running water/indoor plumbing as well as being known for their pottery and highly disciplined Navy/Military that dominated the region. They lived a lavish lifestyle and were well fed and educated. The men were known for athletic prowess, and had a ceremony that included leaping over bulls.
Their society was secretive and the outside world probably only knew about them by hearsay more than anything else. At the time, great tales of how advanced they were got so highly exaggerated that by the time Plato wrote about them (around 600 bc) he regarded them as more of a legend than an actual people that existed. He actually knew more than he thought he knew. The Minoan civilzation was only discovered in the early 20th century with archaeology still finding sites that are remarkably well presevered. Putting together what is known from the current research and the ancient stories, it is now being accepted that the Atlantis of Myth probably was in fact the Minoans on the island of Crete around 1700BC.
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#7 Posted on 7.8.04 0305.08
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Onda, where are you getting that from, out of curiosity? It sounds very much like what Charles Pellegrino was arguing in Return to Sodom and Gomorrah. I can't be too sure, though, since I lent the book (before finishing it) to an unfeeling bastard who claims he can no longer find it. The swine.
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#8 Posted on 7.8.04 0724.33
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I believe it was TIME life books that produced hard cover books looking into the unknown in the 1980s. The books dedicated 2 pages to each strange story, along with a drawing of what they were discussing. I remember the Atlantis story.

It had a drawing of a circles, the center one being solid, the suddonding ones had water between them, like a moat of sorts. I believe the structure was 4 or five layers.

http://www.atlan.org/

I found this site on Google.com, read the FAQs they answer alot of questions.
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#9 Posted on 7.8.04 1737.24
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Bow before me, I am on Atlantis as i speak to you now! Hmm...surprised it hasen't made the news over here yet, I'm sure it'll pop up as the last ''feel good'' segment soon.
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#10 Posted on 9.8.04 1452.31
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The Bimini Road stops only feet after it goes into the water. It was probably used to dock boats many years ago.

If ireland was Atlantis, then how did the story get to the Egyptians? Plato got the story from Solon who said he was told be Egyptian priests. It seems unlikely that the Egyptians would have any contact with ancient Irish or even know of the land's existence.

And TopTenPro, that would be "Atlantean" at least according to "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" :)
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#11 Posted on 9.8.04 1600.34
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    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    TIf ireland was Atlantis, then how did the story get to the Egyptians? Plato got the story from Solon who said he was told be Egyptian priests. It seems unlikely that the Egyptians would have any contact with ancient Irish or even know of the land's existence.


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#12 Posted on 9.8.04 1824.01
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As I wrote at the beginning of the post, it was a special on TV. It was either Discovery or History Channel. Similar but less comprehensive specials have been on before in years past. Oh, and just to clarify, the smaller island is Santorini, I misspelled it.
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#13 Posted on 9.8.04 2256.06
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I doubt any theory about Atlantis will ever be more than a theory. The legend of Atlantis has been so varied and diluted over the centuries, there's really no definitive version of it, not even Plato's. Every leading "expert" on the subject could all be gathered into a hall, and they would probably all disagree. For those interested in the legend, Erlingsson's new theory will be a welcome diversion from which ever prior theory they're hot about at the moment. Nice post.
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#14 Posted on 10.8.04 0808.22
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    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    ...that would be "Atlantean" at least according to "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" :)


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