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#1 Posted on 1.8.04 2230.50
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I know some of you W's have dealt with EB games before and I wanted your opinion.

My kids have a N64 and Playstation in their room...Santa's considering getting a GameCube and/or a PS2 for the family area (for ALL of us) to use.

Santa's a little cash poor this year, and the refurbished systems on ebgames.com looked like good deals in that they included some games, and 2 controllers vs. the standard one with new units. That leaves me a little extra cash for items like the eyetoy, and gameboy player for the cube.

Has anyone had any experience with the refurbished units, good OR bad? And do they have any kind of warranty with the refurbished units?

Thanks in advance for any replies...
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#2 Posted on 1.8.04 2305.01
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I haven't had any experience with EBGames, nor have I bought a refurbished system, but, if I had to choose between a refurbished PS2 and a refurbished GameCube, I'd probably go with the 'Cube. If only for the fact that three of my friends are on their second PS2's or worse, and have heard countless stories of them dying when they're bought new.
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#3 Posted on 1.8.04 2308.41
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I would also go with a refurbished Nintendo before a refurbished PS2. The PS2 is less likely to have been turned in by a fickle child - it's probably already seen it's better days.

What kind of deal are you looking at? Costco has a GC with two controllers and a 251 memory card for $129 if you have access - that's probably the best new deal I've seen.

//edit: I bought two used Dreamcasts from Funco near me, and both worked fine. In the past I've bought refurbished units for other home electronics equipment and not had any problems. The only refurb I've had issues with was a digital camera that I bought on ubid.com a few years back. In general, it's not a bad deal.

Really, you just need to think about how many moving parts are involved. For the GC and PS2 it is the drive assembly that can go bad. I haven't heard anyone that has had GC problems, but I have heard of lots of people that have had ps2 issues with the laser.

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#4 Posted on 2.8.04 1700.44
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Also, the thing to remember about the GC is that Nintendo systems are generally bulletproof. All the way back to the NES. I have a couple of Sega Master Systems that I bought thrifting and one of them's kinda wonky with the cartridge placement. Can't speak for Nintendo systems besides my own (which I treat immaculately) but all you need to do is keep carts clean and you'll be fine.
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#5 Posted on 2.8.04 1710.44
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Well, the old NES cart batterys are finally starting to die. But that just means you have to open them up and throw in a new battery.

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#6 Posted on 3.8.04 0006.25
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    Originally posted by cranlsn
    I know some of you W's have dealt with EB games before and I wanted your opinion.

    My kids have a N64 and Playstation in their room...Santa's considering getting a GameCube and/or a PS2 for the family area (for ALL of us) to use.

    Santa's a little cash poor this year, and the refurbished systems on ebgames.com looked like good deals in that they included some games, and 2 controllers vs. the standard one with new units. That leaves me a little extra cash for items like the eyetoy, and gameboy player for the cube.

    Has anyone had any experience with the refurbished units, good OR bad? And do they have any kind of warranty with the refurbished units?

    Thanks in advance for any replies...


I bought a used PS2 from EB in February. It worked great...until late April, when it decided to stop recognizing discs I put in. It sopped working, and EB wouldn't buy it back off me.

I've bought Super Nintendo and NES used before, honestly I don't remember the source, and, after more than a year of ownership by me for both, they work for fine. I assume that says something about the Nintendo systems.
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#7 Posted on 3.8.04 0935.56
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*warning* when my ps2 broke i decided to make the jump to xbox. i got a refurbished one from eb, took it home and nothing, couldnt read a single disc. what a pain, so i went back and exchanged it for another. not that big of a deal. i took the second one home, by the second day it was doing the same thing. i took that one back and guess what, they were all out of refurbished systems so my choices were to wait until they got one or buy a new one. i bought the new one. i havent had a problem since. not saying that would happen to anyone else but my experience was terrible.
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#8 Posted on 3.8.04 1214.03
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I understand we all are trying to spend the least amount possible, but keep in mind you get what you pay for. The PS2 is $150 brand new, and GC is $99. Both are affordable and if you are that worried about it start saving now. Really no reason to buy a 2nd hand(rebuilt my butt) system for just a $20 difference or less with a few crappy games thrown in for good measure. Get the new system you get the warrantee from the store and you also get the company as well. you don't know where these used systems have been either. Back in the old NES days I use to manage a Funco and literally had food and bugs living in the old NES units. Same goes for the Genesis, SNES, and N64. Nasty stuff and refused to buy them back as trade in. EB games or Gamestop use an outside source to fix broken or used machines to resell as refurb. So don't believe what you hear.

Either of the systems are great buys at the new price tag, and it really comes down to the library of games available. First off PS2 is also a DVD player and also has a great selection of games for all ages and genres. GC in all honesty gears more towards kids, with a select number of games for other ages groups. Don't try to deny it Nintendo lovers. I own every system and my GC collects the most dust of the 3 systems. It all depends on your own and kids tastes. Don't believe all this kiddy games on GC, and none on PS2 crap either. Both systems are fine for any age group, but the GC is more for younger gamers since the controls are easier and you have the Pokemon/Mario/Kirby factor. PS2 has games for kids as well. The controller are a little more complex. Also are reasons behind why some game companies are only making games for PS2 & X-Box leaving GC out of luck in multi-platform games. Those reason are vaired from royalties, and the GC isn't popular enough to develop the game when it's cheaper to make it for PS2 & X-Box.

I don't know what type of envirmonment these people have their PS2's in, but I have had mine since it came out and never have had any problems (it lays flat like a VCR and not stood up which might be causing your problems). And if I did, I wouldn't mind buying a new one to get a fresher made system with upgraded DVD drivers anyway being that is has been years. Within a few weeks with the new system bring it back for a new one. As with any electronic device things can happen in the manufactoring process what can ya do.

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#9 Posted on 4.8.04 0002.28
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Thanks to everyone for the advice. I'm now leaning towards new systems...but at a cheaper price. I've investigated a couple of the outlets here (GameCrazy for example).

For joining their club for about $20, I can get a decent percentage off of a new system which almost matches the prices of the refurb's. I'm checking out the other deals as well.

If it were just for me, I'd deal with the hassle of exchanging/sending in for repairs. But it's for the kids...so the best chance of working out of the box the better, I guess.

LanceJr...you hit the nail on the head. Both of my kids are Pokemon freaks, and we all have GameBoys so the option of getting the Gameboy player for the 'Cube is an added attraction.

The eyetoy is one of the selling points for the PS2 for us (kids wise), it seems something fun for the family to do but simple enough for the 3 year old to enjoy too.
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#10 Posted on 5.8.04 0928.31
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You're welcome cranlsn.

The new Zelda Four Swords and a lot of other GC games are using GameBoy and a link cable to add bonus to games. So the connectivity between the two is what Nintendo is really focusing on and with Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, etc at least everyone could be "playing" at the same time. The new Pac-Man vs. for instance the GC controller controls Pac-Man and when you connect a GameBoy(s) using link cables the GB will control a ghost(s). Bomberman will also have this similar feature and some games you can only unlock certain bonus if you link GC with a GB like Metroid Prime(GC) & Metroid Fusion(GB. Nintendo is going this route instead of online. Hey to each their own. and whatever you decide glad I/we coudl help
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#11 Posted on 5.8.04 1603.58
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This month, Nintendo is releasing a Metroid Prime bundle for Gamecube. For $99 standard price, you get a free game (Metroid Prime) as well as a demo disc for Metroid Prime 2. Sounds like you're getting a Gamecube anyway, so just wait August 15 for this bundle to come out.

http://www.nintendopower.com/metroidprime2/
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#12 Posted on 8.8.04 1932.08
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First off, the best way to choose between 2 systems is to look at the lineup of games that have already been released for each, the games that are in development for each, and then decide which system has more game that you want to play. In that aspect, the only opinions that really matter are your own, and those of your family.

As for hardware and choosing between new or refurbished systems, it is definitely worth the extra money for a new system. I used to work for a GameStop, and took plenty of returns on refurbished systems that had been "tested". 99 times out of 100, the "test" that a refubished system gets consists of powering the system up, and seeing if a game loads. From that point, it's about 50-50 as to if anyone actually presses Start to see if the game works. The chances that somebody actually -played- a game on the system for any realistic amount of time (i.e an hour or more) is nil.

The truth is that PS2s die out rather frequently. My original PS2, purchased on Launch Day, started having trouble reading discs about a year later, and stopped working completely about 3 months after that.

Luckily for me, this is quite a frequent problem, and occurs so much that Sony repaired it for free, even though I was well out of the 90-day warranty period. When I got the system back, the invoice said that the laser assembly had been replaced.

Well, the PS2 that had been refurbished by Sony's own repair department crapped out again about 3 months after I got it back. This time, I said "screw it" and just bought a new PS2.

If you do a web search along the lines of "free PS2 repair", you'll find plenty of other people who have had the same experience of a free out-of-warranty repair. I believe there is even a FAQ on www.gamefaqs.com in the PS2 Hardware FAQs that details how to get the free repair. Basically, as long as you haven't dropped it, set it on fire, or taken it swimming, and you make no mention of reading about free repairs on the Internet, you should qualify for the free repair.

I should mention that my PS2 sees an average of 6-8 hours of use daily, and often more than that. I would assume that systems which see less constant use last longer, but my experience is limited to heavy-duty use machines. (I also used to work in QA for Atari, and the PS2 test systems see an average of 9-13 hours of use on a daily basis, depending on use in overtime shifts. They also tend to break down as much as the home systems do.)

As was mentioned elsewhere, I too have never had a Nintendo system completely die on me. My NES has flashing screen issues, but can be made to work with a minute or so of cart jiggling. My SNES needs a wedge to hold the cart in place to make contact with the slot, but works fine otherwise. However, cartridge-based systems have a history of durability (my Atari 2600 still works over 20 years after it was manufactured). It will be interesting to see how the Gamecube holds up over time, but moving parts (such as laser assemblies) inevitably wear out with use.
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