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#1 Posted on 30.7.04 1743.50
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The Mets finally pulled the trigger on the Benson deal, getting Benson for Ty Wiggington and minor leaguer Matt Peterson.

They also give up minor leaguer Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.


I like the Benson trade but Kazmir for Zambrano? I don't know. Wasn't Kazmir the Mets best pitching prospect?
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#2 Posted on 30.7.04 1822.37
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    The Mets finally pulled the trigger on the Benson deal, getting Benson for Ty Wiggington and minor leaguer Matt Peterson.

    They also give up minor leaguer Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.


    I like the Benson trade but Kazmir for Zambrano? I don't know. Wasn't Kazmir the Mets best pitching prospect?


Kazmir is a top ten prospect in all of baseball, if the experts are to be believed. After all the Benson hoopla, it's pretty striking that the Mets gave up far more for Zambrano than they did for Benson.
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#3 Posted on 30.7.04 1912.33
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Actually, they gave up a minor league catcher (forget his name, but he is a big prospect for their system) to KC to get Jose Bautista, who they sent to Pittsburgh. So in a way, it looks a little fairer, but Pittsburgh doesn't benefit as much as Tampa.
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#4 Posted on 30.7.04 2202.14
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      The Mets finally pulled the trigger on the Benson deal, getting Benson for Ty Wiggington and minor leaguer Matt Peterson.

      They also give up minor leaguer Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.


      I like the Benson trade but Kazmir for Zambrano? I don't know. Wasn't Kazmir the Mets best pitching prospect?


    Kazmir is a top ten prospect in all of baseball, if the experts are to be believed. After all the Benson hoopla, it's pretty striking that the Mets gave up far more for Zambrano than they did for Benson.






Biggest reason is that Benson is a free agent in waiting while Zambrano is close to minimum salary heading towards arbitration, thus 3 years away from free agency. Pinella must really be thrilled that after getting his team to play well for a while, ownership dumps the closest thing he has to an ace (on a good team, maybe a 3, but its the D-Rays) while he's 3 years away from free agency. Does this mean that Crawford and Baldelli are on the market next summer, as they will be getting towards arbitration?
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#5 Posted on 30.7.04 2252.34
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I can't figure out these moves at all. The Mets are fourth in the division and ninth in the wild card hunt...it would make more sense to me if they were dumping guys rather than picking them up, especially if they're giving up solid prospects to do so.
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#6 Posted on 30.7.04 2356.33
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Maybe the Mets' philosophy is that Leiter and Glavine really aren't getting any younger, so their realistic window to win is only a few years. I've heard that the Mets are going to push to sign Benson once they get him in there, and with Victor Zambrano about 3 years from free agency, it now gives them a solid 1-4 in the rotation, with Trachsel being bumped down to the 5 hole. In that division, it might just be enough. The Braves have only recently started to pull away, so there's time yet.
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#7 Posted on 31.7.04 0110.33
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    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    I can't figure out these moves at all. The Mets are fourth in the division and ninth in the wild card hunt...it would make more sense to me if they were dumping guys rather than picking them up, especially if they're giving up solid prospects to do so.


Maybe the Mets visited Anna Benson's website.
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#8 Posted on 31.7.04 0120.48
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by BigVitoMark
      I can't figure out these moves at all. The Mets are fourth in the division and ninth in the wild card hunt...it would make more sense to me if they were dumping guys rather than picking them up, especially if they're giving up solid prospects to do so.


    Maybe the Mets visited Anna Benson's website.

Posters of her should be all over the clubhouse the moment Kip steps into the clubhouse. Though now matter how good a piture he is, Kip is a hard name to fear. Certainly this would shore up the Met's pitching, now if only they can improve their defense...
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#9 Posted on 31.7.04 0411.47
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    Originally posted by Iago
      Originally posted by Big Bad
        Originally posted by BigVitoMark
        I can't figure out these moves at all. The Mets are fourth in the division and ninth in the wild card hunt...it would make more sense to me if they were dumping guys rather than picking them up, especially if they're giving up solid prospects to do so.


      Maybe the Mets visited Anna Benson's website.

    Posters of her should be all over the clubhouse the moment Kip steps into the clubhouse. Though now matter how good a piture he is, Kip is a hard name to fear. Certainly this would shore up the Met's pitching, now if only they can improve their defense...


You mean Kris (Benson). Kip (Wells) is still with the Pirates and hasn't been traded (yet).

(edited by Whitebacon on 31.7.04 0212)


//edit: The Mets balked at trading Kazmir to either the Yankees or Rangers in the offseason to get Alfonso Soriano. Now they trade him straight up for Victor Zambrano.

(edited by Whitebacon on 31.7.04 0239)
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#10 Posted on 31.7.04 1357.45
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    Originally posted by drjayphd
    Actually, they gave up a minor league catcher (forget his name, but he is a big prospect for their system) to KC to get Jose Bautista, who they sent to Pittsburgh. So in a way, it looks a little fairer, but Pittsburgh doesn't benefit as much as Tampa.


Justin Huber, who played down here for the Tides... This is an interesting move, as I think the Mets gave up a lot of top prospects to get these guys. So is this a "right now" move instead of looking to the future? (And yes, Huber was their top catching prospect, drjay).

Now the Benson's have a new stadium to christen as well ;-)
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#11 Posted on 31.7.04 2038.34
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I really don't understand the Mets. The team just isn't ready to be buyers this time of year yet. They have a really strange mix of players on that club. They really burned themselves and set themselves back with thoughts of October this early.
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#12 Posted on 1.8.04 0830.09
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And Benson gets destroyed in his first start giving up 7 runs in an 8 - 0 loss to the Braves. That puts them 8 games back, I don't think they can make that up even in the NL East.
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#13 Posted on 2.8.04 0627.10
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Funny thing about this trade is actually Jose Bautista. This year he...

- was selected in the rule V draft by Baltimore from Pittsburgh
- designated for assignment
- claimed by Tampa Bay
- designated for assignment
- claimed by Kansas City, and now
- traded Back to Pittsburgh.
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