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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - Hard Knocks: The Chris Benoit Story
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#61 Posted on 5.8.04 1333.05
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    Originally posted by Mild Mannered Madman
      Originally posted by bubblesthechimp
        Originally posted by asteroidboy
        As for Bret's WCW run, I've only seen this match and the tourney where Bret wins the WCW Belt (in a match against Benoit). MAN, Bret really looked like he lost a few steps. He just seemed slower and out of shape.



      If i remember right Bret was working through a pretty serious groin injury through most of his tenure in WCW.


    In the case of the tribute match, it had been his first match in a couple months, which is one of the reasons he blows up about 8-9 minutes in.



I think Bret's first match back was with Hogan vs. Sting and Lex Luger the night after Fall Brawl 1999 in September. The Owen Memorial match was October 2nd I believe.
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#62 Posted on 6.8.04 0150.21
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That was one hell of a DVD set. Sullivan/Benoit is always great. I really dug the hell out of the Japanese matches. Tazz and Cole did a great job doing commentary for these. However, if there's one thing that this set proves is that Bret is still the most boring wrestler ever. I've just never seen the charisma or excitement that he supposedly brings to the table. Granted, that match wasn't one of his best, but watching it just made me confused all over again.

Just my two cents.
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#63 Posted on 6.8.04 0833.29
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I've been a wrestling fan for god knows how long, but I wasn't "smart" for a while there. But after watching this DVD and getting snippets of the Sullivan story, i am intrigued, what happened between Benoit and Sullivan?
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#64 Posted on 6.8.04 0949.30
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Benoit and Sullivan were involved in a feud/angle surrounding Nancy Sullivan/Woman where Woman left Kevin for Chris. The feud then carried over into real life when the angle being played out actually happened and Nancy really DID leave Kevin for Chris. Obviously, this caused some real life tension between the two guys which carried over into their matches, which were always stiff as hell brawls.

Kevin and Nancy Sullivan were married in real life when she left him for Chris. I believe Chris Benoit was married with kids at the time as well. This is why he says he doesn't want to go into details on the DVD so he can explain it himself to his kids from the previous marriage when their older.

This is my understanding of the whole thing. If I'm wrong, I'm sure somebody will correct me.

--Monte N
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#65 Posted on 7.8.04 1818.08
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Excellent, excellent DVD! One of the few times I felt the need to spend money on a WWE product and didn't feel dirty afterwards. My favorite match was definitely the Regal/Benoit match from the Pillman Memorial. I've never seen it before (though I've heard all the glowing reviews) and finally see what everyone was raving about. The story about the tooth made me laugh simply because I've had big dogs my whole life and regularly take accidental shots to the face from them (those bastards always work stiff!).

Also... That whole Sabu incident... ouch!
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#66 Posted on 7.8.04 2159.55
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I've only been able to find 2 of the easter eggs. The tooth story and the promo by pushing right when you highlight the Pillman memorial match. So how do you view the easter egg of Benoit's crippler promo from ECW? Someone earlier mentioned pressing right or left on the Too Cold Scorpio/Benoit match from Superbrawl 93, but that doesn't seem to work.
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#67 Posted on 8.8.04 1755.32
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For the Crippler Promo, you go to the Sabu match, then press right (or was it left?). Then kick back and enjoy the psycho goodness!

[edited becaus correct spelling is a good thing!]

(edited by EastCoastAvenger on 8.8.04 1856)
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#68 Posted on 9.8.04 0124.58
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    Originally posted by Mild Mannered Madman
      Originally posted by The Vile1
      So did Benoit also win the Super J tournament in 1993 which is why he got a bye in 1994?


    No. There have been only 4 Super J Cups.
    1994 (New Japan) - Won by Chris Benoit over Great Sasuke
    1995 (WAR) - Won by Jushin Lyger over Gedo
    2000 (Michinoku Pro) - Won by Jushin Lyger over CIMA
    2004 (Osaka Pro)- Won by Naomichi Marufuji over Takehiro Murahama



Err..then what is that tournament my friend has on tape?
I believe Eddie wins it, its from 1996 if I recall correctly.

Thoughts on the dvd: Awesome.
The story they tell is really good. I don't give a shit about changing music, although I loved his WCW theme (besides a porno its also on a pam anderson playboy tape btw) The stories they tell are quite interesting. I didn't know about his WWF tryout matches, I liked how they had Eddie and Dean in there describing the way their carreers paralelled. Great dvd. I think I like it better than the Flair one because I watched this era and it made more sense to me instead of the "woah..this is ooooooooold! look at the hair!"

I thought it was funny they pretty much went from RR 03 to 04. And sort of glossed over the neck injury, wtg to focus on actual wrestling!
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#69 Posted on 9.8.04 0158.10
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The tape you have is of New Japan's Best of the Super Juniors 1996. Eddie Guerrero wrestled in Japan as Black Tiger and beat Chris Benoit (Wild Pegasus) in the semi-finals, then beat Jushin Liger to win the tourney.
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#70 Posted on 10.8.04 1146.14
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by OMEGA
      I thought the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD was cancelled?


    So did I, but it's still listed as a November release on the DVD booklet in the Benoit DVD.


I was a huge ECW fan and should be a good DVD. Although I bet it will be a fluff DVD where it says ECW was spawned to be an alternative extreme version to the WWF & WCW of the time. And in the end WWE won the battle. Rather then showing and giving credit for what ECW actually was.

Curious to see the match list and how "extreme" the DVD actually is. The WWE tends to use creative edits with matches and interview segments.

The old ECW PPV/TV DVD's currenbtly out are pretty good.
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#71 Posted on 10.8.04 1255.09
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by OMEGA
      I thought the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD was cancelled?


    So did I, but it's still listed as a November release on the DVD booklet in the Benoit DVD.


The ECW one is also listed at DVD Aficionado, so it's a go.

Just got the Benoit set today. Still at work, however. :(
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#72 Posted on 10.8.04 1434.33
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Just got the DVD today. I (HEART) DVD.
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#73 Posted on 10.8.04 1943.37
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Benoit needs to bring back hs "Crippler" persona and promos! Those were the shiznit!
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#74 Posted on 11.8.04 0134.33
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    Originally posted by EastCoastAvenger
    Benoit needs to bring back hs "Crippler" persona and promos! Those were the shiznit!


"I DISAGREED!!!"
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#75 Posted on 11.8.04 1306.47
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    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    Benoit and Sullivan were involved in a feud/angle surrounding Nancy Sullivan/Woman where Woman left Kevin for Chris. The feud then carried over into real life when the angle being played out actually happened and Nancy really DID leave Kevin for Chris. Obviously, this caused some real life tension between the two guys which carried over into their matches, which were always stiff as hell brawls.

    Kevin and Nancy Sullivan were married in real life when she left him for Chris. I believe Chris Benoit was married with kids at the time as well. This is why he says he doesn't want to go into details on the DVD so he can explain it himself to his kids from the previous marriage when their older.

    This is my understanding of the whole thing. If I'm wrong, I'm sure somebody will correct me.

    --Monte N


Another part of this story, I believe, is that Sullivan, booking at the time, had Woman actually travel with Benoit to build up their onscreen chemistry. In the end, that came back to bite him.
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#76 Posted on 18.8.04 0426.47
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I never doubted Benoit's ability. I always thought he was a little too small to be world champion. But that just goes to show you that hard work and perseverance could take you to the top. Woman's little freak has proven to us he can really go. One match not included was one that he had in WCW with the Z-Man. Oh well.
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