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#21 Posted on 17.7.04 1117.43
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All I have to say about this shit is SHENANIGANS!!!
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#22 Posted on 17.7.04 1127.56
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Most of what I know of GL comes from the JL cartoon and some Batman crossovers.
Jack Black is funny and a pretty good actor. But he doesn't look like a superhero. He is balding and chubby. Now whether GL fights Mefisto or whoever Jack doesn't really look like a superhero.
Like others have said if they want a comedy movie redo the Mask (ugh). But there are going to be fans of the GL and JL comics and shows and they will expect some basic likeness to the character.
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#23 Posted on 17.7.04 1953.03
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Upon further reflection, I believe shenanigans is probably the right call. Think about it, if DC kept their mouths shut about all the horrible things WB has done to their franchises in the past (and present, I guess), why would they voice strong disapproval of the concept this early? It would be one thing if Green Lantern was in post-production, and DC brass were real unhappy with it. But on paper, it doesn't sound any worse than what Warner Brothers has already done to them (Arnie as Mr. Freeze, the new Catwoman). So why open their mouths now, especially when they know the WB execs won't like bad press? Smells like a publicity stunt to me. Actually, a pretty damn good publicity stunt, at that. With all the comic book fans yelling about what a travesty this is, maybe some non-fans, or at least casual fans, would be interested in why they're making such a fuss. If they do some research on the character, that not only means that DC has a chance of selling some more books, but also if WB turns around and conceeds to "popular demand" and creates a more traditional Green Lantern film, they'll have substantially widened their consumer base.
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#24 Posted on 18.7.04 0529.00
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I have this much to say to oldschoolhero. You want to make a good comedy movie about a guy with a magical ring that has nothing to do with Green Lantern... don't connect it with Green Lantern.

You want an American sorcerer "all up in" the Devil's shit? Don't drag Constantine into it.

Good or bad, overzealous fans or not, if you have a vision that does not match the source material, leave the source material the fuck alone.

LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE.

Green Lantern... OK maybe slapping that name will draw some mainstream recognition. But they would likely already be seeing it after hearing Jack Black was involved.

And who in the mainstream crowd knows who the hell John Constantine is?

This Green Lantern pitch makes about as much sense as making a movie based on Moon Knight but he's a 12 year old girl with the same powers and the villain is MODOK, a giant carnivorous cotton candy plant.

When they do shit like this (and especially Catwoman) they're just drawing targets on their foreheads. And do I have a right to voice my opinion? I'll let the amount I've spent on Green Lantern comics speak for itself.

So they (and you) can tell us we're being overcritical or unfair without knowing. But I still want at least some measure of accuracy or appreciation for the source material.

Want to show us your vision? Show us. Want to make a comic movie? TRY READING THE FUCKING COMICS ASSHOLES. To put it more politely, try making a comic movie based off the comic and not the comic's premise or name.

Your entire argument is that we shouldn't dictate what kind of comic movies we want to see. That comic movies should be streamlined for the mainstream. But forgetting where they come from is to forget why they appealed to us in the first place. The mainstream's knowledge of comics is moot, this is true. But the most faithful are the best. The ones closest to the source readily display the care the filmmakers had. Whether people know it or not.

So in conclusion, this still has no chance of being worse than Catwoman.
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#25 Posted on 18.7.04 1308.31
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Here's what Green Lantern is all about:

    In brightest day,
    In darkest night,
    No Evil shall escape my sight.
    All those who worship evil's might,
    Beware my power,
    GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!




Which is exactly why they're going to need to change things to make GL a mainstream success. It's way too cheesy and melodramatic to get anything but rolled eyes from typical movie fans. These movies aren't made to satisfy hardcore comic book fans. To do so would be a DISASTER, because there just aren't that many, and they're impossible to satisfy.

And AngryJohnny... none of the GOOD comic adaptations have ever left the source material alone. At best they've cut YEARS worth of exposition and character interaction, not to mention altering entire storylines by changing principal characters, locations, and circumstances. Mary Jane (in for a non-existant Gwen Stacey) being dropped off a bridge by a power-armored Green Goblin? Rogue hitching a ride with Wolverine and being rescued by the X-Men, then joining them later? The Hulk... well, pretty much EVERYTHING?

If you want the source material untouched, stick with the comics, because you can't take years worth of story and condense it into ninety minutes plus without making major changes.
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#26 Posted on 18.7.04 1915.18
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A zany, comedy "Mask-style" version of Green Lantern starring Jack Black sounds a lot dumber and cheesier than the comics. I've read Green Lantern for quite a long time, and I find most of the stories to be quite serious and well written and not cheesy at all.

In Spider-man and X-men for all the changes, the films were utterly true to the characters, essence, and themes of the comics. Movies like Catwoman and Batman and Robin are not. That is why those movies failed, and why films like Spider-man and X-men are successful. Green Lantern, if it happens as it is rumored now, will be another mis-swing like Catwoman and I fear so will Fantastic Four but I'm still willing to give it a chance.

As a longtime Hellboy reader, I thought the movie was a lot cheesier and sillier than the comics ever were to make it more Hollywood and "audience friendly". I still liked the movie, but whatever. I'm just saying, the comics are a lot better and not nearly as "cheesy and melodramatic" as nate the snake puts it in the Hellboy movie.
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#27 Posted on 18.7.04 2001.06
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Just a quick note about the Hellboy movie vs. the Hellboy comics. The producers tried to flat out RUIN the Hellboy movie, and the film only wound up as good as it was because the director was fighting all the way through production. For example, the producers wanted Hellboy to either be a completely normal-looking human, or to be a regular human who then transforms into Hellboy. If not for del Toro, the movie could have been flat-out unwatchable.

Really, that's the biggest problem with a lot of these comic movies. The studios sign these directors who aren't willing to fight for the properties, and just roll over when some idiot in a suit gives them a new idea for the film. The reason Spider-man and X-men are so successful is due to a lot of things, but Sam Raimi and Brian Singer fight hard for their vision and it really shows in their films.
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#28 Posted on 18.7.04 2123.41
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Another funny thing about all this is that all this internet talk about a Green Lantern movie started around the time Ron Marz takes over writing the series again and decides he wants to FINALLY bring back the one TRUE ring bearer, HAL (MUTHAUCKIN') JORDAN!

HELL YEAH kids, Hal's back and he's gonna be better then ever.

I actually WANT Jack Black to play Kyle Raynor... just DO NOT FUCK with Hal anymore people, PLEASE!

We got Oliver back a few years ago, we got Hal comming back in about two months, all we need is for Roy Harper to get back on the smack and we can have us the 70's all over again when they were GOOD books to read every month.

...yes, I AM a geek, why do you ask?
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#29 Posted on 18.7.04 2139.14
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Another funny thing about all this is that all this internet talk about a Green Lantern movie started around the time Ron Marz takes over writing the series again and decides he wants to FINALLY bring back the one TRUE ring bearer, HAL (MUTHAUCKIN') JORDAN!

    HELL YEAH kids, Hal's back and he's gonna be better then ever.

    I actually WANT Jack Black to play Kyle Raynor... just DO NOT FUCK with Hal anymore people, PLEASE!

    We got Oliver back a few years ago, we got Hal comming back in about two months, all we need is for Roy Harper to get back on the smack and we can have us the 70's all over again when they were GOOD books to read every month.

    ...yes, I AM a geek, why do you ask?


I actually think Geoff Johns is the writer that's bringing Hal Jordan back later this year.

Anyway, while I commend Del Toro for fighting the producers, a lot of things that bothered me in the movie that I didn't think quite worked were of his invention. Namely the useless character that was John Myers, and the total misrepresentation of Abe Sapien. The Hellboy/Liz relationship is pretty non-existent in the comics and it was put in the movie so they could have a silly little love triangle going on ala the X-men films. The only woman Hellboy ever seemed to have romantic chemistry with in the comics is Kate Korrigan who was not in the film. And I just think these are examples of making the property more cliche or hollywood cheese than they actually were in comic form. And that is why I think this idea for Green Lantern featuring Jack Black will be a big rotten, smelly piece of unedible cheese you can think of.
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#30 Posted on 19.7.04 0033.23
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I have to admit, as much as I've enjoyed some of Black's work, this seems to me like a bad idea. All I can think of how, in movies, when you take a classic story idea with any kind of mythopoeic element, and established superhero stories (when done right) have this is spades, and you try to somehow "cute it up" for the ankle-biters and window-lickers (I'm talking to you George Lucas, and now I'm looking at you Warner Bros.), or if you try to wedge a classic idea into something that capitalizes of the trendy fashions of the day, you often end up with something that really smears against the bowl. It's a bad gamble.

Witness: Star Wars was marred by the Ewoks Jar Jar Binks, and the 1960's Batman TV Series is little more than a campy, smirk-inducing embarrasment to the character.

Of course, then you have things like Monty Python's Holy Grail and Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet that actually worked, but I think those are the exceptions, not the rule.
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#31 Posted on 19.7.04 0119.40
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    When you look at CINO and Constantine, its obvious that WB has learned nothing. There is no guy from DC comics overseeing all the adaptations of their properties like Avi Arad. WB owns DC, so they have no creative say in what gets put on screen.


On an odd note, as a gamer and player of both Heroclix and the VS. System, DC variants on both take longer to come out due to DC Comics having a hand in the creation of product. WB just uses the DC licenses to fatten their wallets overstepping DC continuity.

The 1960's Batman show really can't be lumped into this either, Stilton, as the the 1960's Batman show was a very accurate depiction of the Batman comics of the day. After all, Batman didn't get dark again until Miller did Dark Knight Returns, which spawned the interest in the first Batman movie, which led to the utter peice of shit known as Batman and Robin.

Jesus, I never knew I was such a geek.
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#32 Posted on 19.7.04 0751.05
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    Originally posted by Nate The Snake
    AngryJohnny... none of the GOOD comic adaptations have ever left the source material alone. At best they've cut YEARS worth of exposition and character interaction, not to mention altering entire story lines by changing principal characters, locations, and circumstances. Mary Jane (in for a non-existant Gwen Stacey) being dropped off a bridge by a power-armored Green Goblin? Rogue hitching a ride with Wolverine and being rescued by the X-Men, then joining them later? The Hulk... well, pretty much EVERYTHING?

    If you want the source material untouched, stick with the comics, because you can't take years worth of story and condense it into ninety minutes plus without making major changes.
C'mon Nate, you act like I raised a torch and charged Frankenstein's castle. You also seem to think I am one foe those purists who take the fun out of things by being over demanding.

I just asked for a semblance of faithfulness. You can streamline without strip mining something. I don't sweat the organic web shooters, and I guess I didn't get that across. I asked for an APPRECIATION of the source material. The Green Lantern Comedy hour is as big a fuck you as we've gotten since the Superfriends.

Anal retentiveness=BAD
A producer demanding a spider in the third act of Superman=WORSE.
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#33 Posted on 19.7.04 1010.53
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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by vsp
      Or it could be "Super Fuzz" with an eight-figure budget. (Actually, I'd go see that.)

    YOU'RE the guy not in my family who watched "Super Fuzz?!?"


All this "Super Fuzz" talk is making me misty for the day I was a 10 year old who along with my dad were the only 2 people in that theater watching this thing...
to crib from the Sports Guy, good times, good times!
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#34 Posted on 20.7.04 0420.52
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If they were going to adapt anything for Jack Black to do as a comedy, you'd think they'd throw him Plastic Man. Even Dial H for Hero would be more along his lines...he could come up with a dozen or so "wacky superheroes".

As for GL, Paul T. Riddell wrote a great April Fools prank in a Dallas weekly several years ago, about a Green lantern movie that had been made under tight wraps and was about to be released. It had Mel Gibson as Hal Jordan, Laurence Fishburne as John Stewart, and Denis Leary as Guy Gardner. He made it sound so good, and if it actually existed, it would have been right up there with Spider Man and X-men as far as quality. Green Lantern isn't as well known of a character as Batman or Superman, but he's got enough history to where the character deserves a decent retelling.

And for the record, I loved Super Fuzz.
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#35 Posted on 24.7.04 0633.36
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Whuzzahowbawhozits?

What's this about an Constantine movie? Where... when? And why did they make it crap!?
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#36 Posted on 24.7.04 0701.22
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Dear Marvel,

Thank you for making two X-Men movies that not only don't suck, but actually kick some serious ass.

Sincerely,

ekedolphin


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Dear DC,

Thank you for making three Batman movies that not only don't suck, but actually kick some serious ass.

But screw you for making Batman & Robin and Catwoman.

I honestly couldn't give a damn about The Green Lantern or Superman (although General Zod kicked ass in Superman II), so go right ahead and screw up those franchises to your heart's content. Just keep in mind that you're going to break Shane Helms's poor heart, and you're the ones who are gonna have to deal with the consequences, you meanies.

I liked your Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation comic books back in the day, I admit-- especially that one TNG annual in which Q saves Picard's brother from dying many years earlier and Picard's brother turns out to be the next Adolf Hitler. I mean, later in the fourth season that entire annual was shot pretty much to hell when we actually met Picard's family, but I don't blame you guys for that.

I strongly recommend, however, that you get out of the business of making movies-- especially if Batman Begins turns out sucky. In fact, you all better not fuck up another Batman movie. Or you will all be forced to kneel before Zod! ZOD!

Sincerely,

ekedolphin

(edited by ekedolphin on 24.7.04 0802)
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#37 Posted on 24.7.04 1131.18
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    Originally posted by Iago
    Whuzzahowbawhozits?

    What's this about an Constantine movie? Where... when? And why did they make it crap!?


Constantine the movie is based on the comic book, Hellblazer. The movie is due for a February release in 2005. They made it crap for the same reason they made Catwoman, LXG, and numerous other comic book properties on film crap, because Hollywood is run by idiots and morons. In the Constantine movie, John Constantine is played by Keanu Reeves, a guy who has no business at all representing the character. In the film Constantine is AMERICAN not British, and the story takes place in Los Angeles. After the script review I read, and looking at the hack director, and WB's recent track record, I predict this will be the next comic book movie turkey to piss us off. What's worse is that WB has pretty much stolen X-men's creative team for Superman. So a big fuck you to Warner Brothers.
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#38 Posted on 24.7.04 1446.32
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Y'see, this is why Avi Arad is the most important man right now to Marvel Comics. If the movies are good, people will read the comics and sales will go up. Case in point: Spider-Man sales haven't been higher, thanks to the Ultimate line, good writing, and the success of the movies.

The fact that Tom Cruise is rumored to be involved with the Iron Man movie is good. It won't happen, most likely, but it's good. All Marvel has to do now is do an awesome World War II epic and call it Captain America.
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