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#1 Posted on 16.7.04 1110.11
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Click Here (news.yahoo.com) (yahoo)

The most interesting part to me:


    After asking the judge for leniency, she emerged defiant from the courthouse to say she was being persecuted and declared, "I'll be back."


So she gets a very light sentence (according to the story, experts expected 10 to 16 months of jail time), and yet she's being persecuted. What an idiot.
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#2 Posted on 16.7.04 1157.50
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She is getting railroaded because she's a bitch. She just happens to be an easy target. It's amazing that she was convicted for lying about a crime that she did not committ...
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#3 Posted on 16.7.04 1315.34
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While I'm glad to see that cocky bitch get some actual time in the clink, I hope that if we are only granted one celebrity in jail this year it wasn't wasted on her. Cough. Michael Jackson. Cough.
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#4 Posted on 16.7.04 1331.13
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I am not a fan but I respect the empire she created. I'm with Grimis, she's going to jail for lying about a crime she wasn't charged with.
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#5 Posted on 16.7.04 1427.10
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When did lying to investigators become a sympathy spot?

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#6 Posted on 16.7.04 1431.25
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The maid did testify that Stewart tried to erase phone records. I don't think what she did was a horrible crime --certainly not a felony -- and she was targeted by the DA as a big fish to brag about, but she did break the law, and she got a light sentence.
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#7 Posted on 16.7.04 1443.31
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Does anyone know in which facility Stewart will be serving her time?

Something tells me her "cell" will be nicer than my apartment, and my apartment is pretty nice.
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#8 Posted on 16.7.04 1502.41
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If lying to investigators about doing nothing illegal is a big deal, shouldn't a certain former president have been made to squirm a bit? Wait, political thread, wrong forum...

I don't see too many "Free Martha" signs at RAW or SD!

However, I heard there was a petition signed by more than 15,000 idiots who want W to grant her a presidential pardon.

She's expected to eventually end up at Club Fed in Danbury, CT.

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#9 Posted on 16.7.04 1503.22
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It says in the story she's staying at a minimum security federal place near her "home" in Connecticut. Upon release, she is on house arrest for five more months at her "home" in New York.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 16.7.04 1605)
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#10 Posted on 18.7.04 1103.34
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I was at out of town recently and stopped by a K-mart (ours was one that closed) and was surprised to still see the whole Martha Stewart line being sold there. Why would K-mart want to continue selling that stuff?

The thing I found humorous though is that when I was checking out, there was a sign about a product recall. It was for Martha Stewart safety matches. Apparently they might ignite on impact. So once she gets done with her 5 months, maybe she'll have to her 5 minutes in Smokey's court.
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#11 Posted on 18.7.04 1311.49
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    Originally posted by SirBubNorm
    I was at out of town recently and stopped by a K-mart (ours was one that closed) and was surprised to still see the whole Martha Stewart line being sold there. Why would K-mart want to continue selling that stuff?.


Martha Stewart products are major sellers for the chain. I have to admit, I own quite a few Martha Stewart items. Plus, I recall reading that back when K-Mart filed for bankruptcy, they owed her quite a bit of money and she stood by them, so they could/would pay up quickly. So, maybe they are just practicing reciprocity.

As far as the conviction, I feel bad for her because she was just made a pariah the whole time. There was a movie of the week and everything on this lady. But, I guess it's good that she only gets 10 months... she didn't take anyone's pension plans or anything.

As for the last three words of this thread... while I don't advocate anyone calling someone a 'bitch', it's sad that it's now a rite of passage for women. You aren't really a woman in this world unless you've been called one. Whenever you show the world that you have a goal and you work steadfastly to obtain it, maybe even obsessing over it until it comes into fruition, you are deemed a bitch. Oprah's a bitch, Madonna's a bitch, we're all bitches whenever we make big plans. :)

(edited by Ticamo on 18.7.04 1113)
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#12 Posted on 18.7.04 1348.14
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I especially liked how she busted out her Terminator impression by saying I'll be back. What this article failed to mention is that moments later, she crashed through the courtroom in a car, and started mowing people down with a shotgun.

Actually, in all seriousness, though. I'll be back? You're saying you're gonna do something else to land your ass in front of a judge? OK, fine, knock yourself out. As a matter of fact... go ahead and knock yourself out.
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#13 Posted on 18.7.04 1421.47
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    Originally posted by Ticamo
      Originally posted by SirBubNorm
      I was at out of town recently and stopped by a K-mart (ours was one that closed) and was surprised to still see the whole Martha Stewart line being sold there. Why would K-mart want to continue selling that stuff?.


    Martha Stewart products are major sellers for the chain. I have to admit, I own quite a few Martha Stewart items. Plus, I recall reading that back when K-Mart filed for bankruptcy, they owed her quite a bit of money and she stood by them, so they could/would pay up quickly. So, maybe they are just practicing reciprocity.

    As far as the conviction, I feel bad for her because she was just made a pariah the whole time. There was a movie of the week and everything on this lady. But, I guess it's good that she only gets 10 months... she didn't take anyone's pension plans or anything.

    As for the last three words of this thread... while I don't advocate anyone calling someone a 'bitch', it's sad that it's now a rite of passage for women. You aren't really a woman in this world unless you've been called one. Whenever you show the world that you have a goal and you work steadfastly to obtain it, maybe even obsessing over it until it comes into fruition, you are deemed a bitch. Oprah's a bitch, Madonna's a bitch, we're all bitches whenever we make big plans.
    (edited by Ticamo on 18.7.04 1113)


Honestly I resent the implication that I called her a bitch because she's a woman. I don't use the term exclusively for women. I do use it to describe most people who claim to be victims when convicted on charges they are guilty of, however.

But it's a lot more fun to think everyone's out to get her because she's a successful woman, right? That must be it. I feel threatened by Martha Stewart. I'm glad you were be able to reqad between the lines of my post and tell me what I think.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 18.7.04 1524)
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#14 Posted on 18.7.04 1537.27
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Honestly I resent the implication that I called her a bitch because she's a woman. I don't use the term exclusively for women. I do use it to describe most people who claim to be victims when convicted on charges they are guilty of, however.

    But it's a lot more fun to think everyone's out to get her because she's a successful woman, right? That must be it. I feel threatened by Martha Stewart. I'm glad you were be able to reqad between the lines of my post and tell me what I think.

    (edited by TheBucsFan on 18.7.04 1524)
Well, shucks, the very first three posts in this thread used the word "bitch," so perhaps you should have chosen your words more carefully and not opened the door for all those other mean nasty people who AREN'T you and might not use the word the way YOU use it.

On the other hand, you sure took offense when a WOMAN pointed out....naah, never mind. ;-)

Martha will be on the Larry King hour on Monday and if I still remember by Monday at 6, we'll probably watch and see what she's got to say.
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#15 Posted on 18.7.04 2059.02
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by Ticamo
        Originally posted by SirBubNorm
        I was at out of town recently and stopped by a K-mart (ours was one that closed) and was surprised to still see the whole Martha Stewart line being sold there. Why would K-mart want to continue selling that stuff?.


      Martha Stewart products are major sellers for the chain. I have to admit, I own quite a few Martha Stewart items. Plus, I recall reading that back when K-Mart filed for bankruptcy, they owed her quite a bit of money and she stood by them, so they could/would pay up quickly. So, maybe they are just practicing reciprocity.

      As far as the conviction, I feel bad for her because she was just made a pariah the whole time. There was a movie of the week and everything on this lady. But, I guess it's good that she only gets 10 months... she didn't take anyone's pension plans or anything.

      As for the last three words of this thread... while I don't advocate anyone calling someone a 'bitch', it's sad that it's now a rite of passage for women. You aren't really a woman in this world unless you've been called one. Whenever you show the world that you have a goal and you work steadfastly to obtain it, maybe even obsessing over it until it comes into fruition, you are deemed a bitch. Oprah's a bitch, Madonna's a bitch, we're all bitches whenever we make big plans.

      (edited by Ticamo on 18.7.04 1113)


    Honestly I resent the implication that I called her a bitch because she's a woman. I don't use the term exclusively for women. I do use it to describe most people who claim to be victims when convicted on charges they are guilty of, however.

    But it's a lot more fun to think everyone's out to get her because she's a successful woman, right? That must be it. I feel threatened by Martha Stewart. I'm glad you were be able to reqad between the lines of my post and tell me what I think.

    (edited by TheBucsFan on 18.7.04 1524)


Oh boy... Let me clear this up a bit... BucsFan, I wasn't even taking you to task for using the word 'bitch' in regard to Martha Stewart. I was merely referring to the fact that being called a bitch is now something that women are commonly called whenever they are successful. I even said it was a "rite of passage" these days. Plenty of women embrace the word as a description of their assertiveness. That's evident by some, well... at least one, member of this very board. Not all women view it as condescending, nor do I.

It was more matter-of-factly than me saying 'Wow! you think she's a bitch and you're threatened by her'. Hell, I never said that it was a BAD thing to be called a bitch... I just pointed out that the word was in the thread title and ran off with it.

I hope that clears it up a little there. I didn't mean to upset you and raise your resentment. :)
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#16 Posted on 18.7.04 2135.48
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I would agree that a forceful women in business, or anywhere for that matter, is often called a bitch while a man doing the same is merely agressive and doing what is necessary.
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#17 Posted on 19.7.04 0042.37
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I don't know... I, myself, use the word to describe someone who back-stabs, cheats, lies, intentionally hurts people... or just simply isn't a nice person, period. I use the word bastard as the male-equivalent. Or any number of other not-very-nice words.
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#18 Posted on 19.7.04 0242.38
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"I don't know... I, myself, use the word to describe someone who back-stabs, cheats, lies, intentionally hurts people..."

Remember guru's rule about not citing sources. Go back and edit using this link I provided for you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Female
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#19 Posted on 19.7.04 0853.27
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I prefer the male form of bitch to be simply "Dog!" It can be very very effective if spoken with just the right tone. It doesn't translate as well in written form.
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#20 Posted on 19.7.04 1611.11
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I initially felt and still do feel that Martha is being made into a pariah, but she is not completely innocent, plus when I heard about the details of her imprisonment, I felt significantly less bad for her.

As far as the word bitch goes, I do find it nasty and don't really use it all that much, but this discussion here reminded me of an article I had to pint out for someone at work, and the part about the origion of the word I find very interesting.

Originally posted by Nnedi Okorafor-Mbachu
"A little more background on the history of this word: According to The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, "The word bitch became a naughty word in Christian Europe because it was one of the most sacred titles of the Goddess, Artemis-Diana, leaders of the Scythian alani or 'hunting dogs.'...In Christian terms, 'son of a bitch' was considered insulting not because it meant a dog, but because it meant the devil that is, a spiritual son of the pagan Goddess."

So basically, a goddess has been turned into a curse word. A true sign of the times."

The rest of the article is here, at http://www.africana.com/articles/voices/ls20040115bword.asp , while I might think a few of the things she says are a bit extreme, I do agree wholeheartedly with the overall point of the article.


(edited by MollyFan2K2 on 19.7.04 1714)
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