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#1 Posted on 10.7.04 1414.29
Reposted on: 10.7.11 1414.31
On November 24, 1986, famous enemies
Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper teamed up
to face Paul Orndorff and Harley Race,
managed by Bobby Heenan, at Madison
Square Garden. Gorilla Monsoon and
Lord Alfred Hays called the action.

Hogan entered last. Orndorff rushed
him as he stepped through the ropes
and all four men brawled until the
faces cleared the ring. Hogan and
Piper backed into each other, then
turned and tore their shirts off at
each other and threw them at each
other, briefly teasing a showdown
until the heels came back, at which
point Hogan lifted Piper in a full
nelson while he kicked the heels
away with both feet.

After the wild opening minute, the
match took shape with the babyfaces
working over Race's left arm. Piper
held Race open for a flying axehandle
off the second rope by Hogan. Hogan
returned the favor for a flying punch
by Piper. Piper held Race open for a
running kick to the arm. Hogan then
held Race open for a running uppercut.
Hogan even hit an over-the-shoulder
arm breaker and an over-the-top-rope
slingshot to Race's arm during this
surprising, three minute flurry.

Race finally took control, ramming
Piper's head into Orndorff's knee
and following up with a belly to
belly suplex and a knee drop, then
holding Piper open for a sloppy
top rope forearm drop by Orndorff.

The heels dominated Piper for four
minutes with midrange offense like
clotheslines, elbow drops, and knee
drops. Orndorff applied the lone
resthold of the match, a chinlock
to set up Piper's false comeback.
Race mixed in his tombstone slam
and a vertical suplex.

Piper finally dodged past Race and
made the hot tag to Hogan. Hogan
whipped Race into the corner and
hit the follow in lariat. Orndorff
ran in, but Hogan dumped him out to
the floor. Hogan hit an atomic knee,
clothesline, and legdrop in series
on Race, but Orndorff made the save.

Heenan climbed up onto the apron and
Hogan went after him. Race held Piper
open for a lariat, but Piper ducked
and Orndorff decked Race. Piper
rolled up Race for the pin in 8:15
despite not being the legal man.

Piper celebrated with his arms wide
as Hogan pummeled Orndorff. Hogan
turned and Piper flipped him off and
then walked out. The heels double
teamed Hogan and held him wide open.
Bobby Heenan got in a few punches
before Hogan whipped Orndorff and
Race together. Heenan tried to run,
but Hogan caught him and whipped him
into the post and out to the floor.

This match, like many WWF matches
from the first Hogan era, was short
and did not have a sense of building
drama. The heels controlled Piper
for a few minutes, but never came
close to pinning him. The one last
minute save came when Orndorff
saved Race after Hogan's legdrop.

That said, the four men didn't waste
much time and used a wider variety
of offense than I would have guessed.
While disappointing as a house show
main event, this wasn't bad television.

Frank
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#2 Posted on 10.7.04 1627.59
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I'm surprised they had Race in this match at this point, as he wasn't involved in any issues with Hogan until the post Mania III time period, and Piper was consumed with Orton and Adonis at this point. Race was mainly still stuck in mid card hell, as he had only made his pro debut (WWF speak) that summer.
Maybe it was out of some sort of sign of respect, but it seems Hogan would actually put his working shoes on against Race. They had a nice Texas Death Match in Boston in the summer of '87.
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#3 Posted on 11.7.04 2221.10
Reposted on: 11.7.11 2221.50
Hey, the November 1986 MSG house show (from back when they still showed them on MSG network). Cool!! Bear in mind, the review and posts don't fully put it in context. This was a time when angles would originate and play at house shows over a period of two or three months. This show was no different.

This match was set up the prior month - October 20, 1986, to be exact. This was during that period when the WWF was doing a set of shows with a tag team battle royal main event. The only other attraction of note - other than the battle royale and preliminary matches between its competitors - was a Piper's Pit with "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff. This was only a few months after Orndorff's heel turn, and his feud with Hogan was still pretty hot. This was also not long after Piper's return to the WWF (and face turn). With Piper first saying to Orndorff, "The last time I saw you, you were laying on your back with your ass in the air!" (WM I reference, I suppose.), the Piper's Pit leads into a challenge for a tag match. Bobby Heenan and Orndorff ponder partners, before settling on Heenan Family member Harley Race - about the only other Heenan Family member not in a regular tag team. Piper pulls out WWF superfan Nikolai from the front row, and asks him who he thinks his partner should be. Nikolai, of course, answers immediately with "Hulk Hogan!", and MSG goes nuts. This all led to the match you've seen reviewed.
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#4 Posted on 12.7.04 1013.37
Reposted on: 12.7.11 1013.42

    Piper pulls out WWF superfan Nikolai from the front row, and asks him who he thinks his partner should be. Nikolai, of course, answers immediately with "Hulk Hogan!", and MSG goes nuts. This all led to the match you've seen reviewed.
Is the name of the superfan Nikolai or Vladmir? Isn't he the guy that you would always see at the WWF pay-per-views during the nineties? He would occasionally be seen at a WCW event also. Skinny, nerdy looking guy with poindexter glasses and always wore a tank top, right?

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#5 Posted on 12.7.04 1607.00
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HallMark, I'm not sure of the correct name, but we're clearly thinking of the same guy. In addition to all the events he was at, I recall seeing him as a regular at ringside at MSG throughout the 80s. It was a nice little touch for something to do for their diehard fans.
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