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The Lurk
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#1 Posted on 8.7.04 1217.17
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I guess a lot of you probably are already aware of this, but Johnny Depp is set to star as Willy Wonka in a remake of the classic that will be directed by Tim Burton.

Charlie and The Chocolate Factory has a scheduled release date in 2005, with more info here: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/

I, for one, am totally pumped about this. One of my favorite movies of all-time with my favorite actor of all-time in one of the leading roles. Depp is perfect to play the whimsical but creepy candy-pusher.

Edit: DOH! Could a mod fix the title to say "depp" instead of "deep?"

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#2 Posted on 8.7.04 1225.10
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This will be another movie that fails to come anywhere near the original(see: Psycho, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and, coming soon, The Manchurian Candidate).
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#3 Posted on 8.7.04 1309.02
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Don't forget Tim Burton's last attempt at a remake in 2001, THE PLANET OF THE APES! Awful movie. Not even a cameo by Heston as a chimp could save it. So I'll have to agree with Grimis here.
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#4 Posted on 8.7.04 1413.03
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Don't forget Tim Burton's last attempt at a remake in 2001, THE PLANET OF THE APES! Awful movie. Not even a cameo by Heston as a chimp could save it. So I'll have to agree with Grimis here.


I would think the same as well, but I remember hearing about Pirates of the Carribean before it came out. Everyone was taking shots at it, saying it would suck and bomb hard, being based on a Disney ride and produced by Bruckheimer and all. Well it went on to recieve a lot of positive feedback and north of 300 million domestic gross. The reason for that is almost 100% Depp's charisma. So I'm adopting a wait-and-see attitude.
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#5 Posted on 8.7.04 1421.31
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Yo Japanese people, I have to agree with Molly Fan 2002. Even if the movie is bad, it'll be worth it for Depp getting his Depp on, Depp style, and making some candy.
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#6 Posted on 8.7.04 1425.57
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    Originally posted by JMShapiro
    Yo Japanese people, I have to agree with Molly Fan 2002. Even if the movie is bad, it'll be worth it for Depp getting his Depp on, Depp style, and making some candy.


Plus this is a tandem that has made two very good films together already (Sleepy Hollow & Edward Scissorhands), so I don't think we should call it a stinker just yet...
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#7 Posted on 8.7.04 1459.33
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Also Ed Wood. And one of the biggest problems with Planet of the Apes was the level of studio involvement with the film, wich hamstrung a lot of what Burton wanted to do. That said, I still don't have a lot of faith in the film, simply because it's another case of remaking a film that was perfectly good the way it was. As they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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#8 Posted on 8.7.04 1505.33
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    That said, I still don't have a lot of faith in the film, simply because it's another case of remaking a film that was perfectly good the way it was. As they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Bingo. It's not that Burton or Depp are the problem. Remaking a classic is the problem. Unforuntatley it's not an uncommon idea(remember, Bennifer talked about remaking Casablanca, so the idea of trying to do a "classic" better is not a new one.)
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#9 Posted on 8.7.04 1526.30
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I think though in this case there is room to make a different movie than the Gene Wilder version. The movie IIRC is not all that close to the Roald Dahl book, which means they could go back closer to the source text for their inspiration. If they try to do a note for note remake of WW that likely won't work as well. If they do something though not as indebted to the original movie however I think a good flick worth being made could come of that.
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#10 Posted on 8.7.04 1612.11
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A co-worker of mine at the Blockbuster I work out told me what he'd heard about this new movie. And I'll pass, thanks.

(Keep in mind I haven't read the book.)

Supposedly when the kids get eliminated, they get killed, Wonka's more evil than he is wacky, and there's no music.

I can just imagine the wave of angry parents returning their DVDs of Wonka 2005, thinking that what they'd bought for their kids was quality family entertainment... only for the kids to start screaming and crying uncontrollably when they realize that child characters were actually killed off.

Like I said, I only have my co-worker's story to verify this story. But I'm already getting seriously bad vibes.
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#11 Posted on 8.7.04 1641.45
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Supposedly when the kids get eliminated, they get killed, Wonka's more evil than he is wacky, and there's no music.


That'd be the book, yeah.
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#12 Posted on 8.7.04 1701.51
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Supposedly when the kids get eliminated, they get killed, Wonka's more evil than he is wacky, and there's no music.


    That'd be the book, yeah.



I didn't think they got killed. It's been awhile since I've read the book, but when Charlie, Wonka, and Uncle Joe all burst through the roof of the factory Wonka points out how all of the other children and that they'll be fine. For example, Mike TeeVee getting stretched out to 10 feet tall or something like that.

If they don't do a straight remake of the original movie and go back to the book for material, this might not suck.
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#13 Posted on 8.7.04 2153.57
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FWIW -- They *don't* get killed, because Charlie sees them changed at the end (i.e. Gloop or TeeVee being stretched out).

And not because I'm a Sox fan, but spf'fie is right. The Wilder movie is altered from the book, so there's more than enough room to do a redux in a different style.

Can we not s*** on the movie until it actually, say, comes out?
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#14 Posted on 9.7.04 0402.53
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The only reason people are shitting on this is because it's a remake. Of a book. Which wasn't done properly the first time round. The original film is a children's classic, for sure, but it wasn't Roald Dahl's Wonka. He and his family hated it. This, on the other hand, will be that adaptation, a proper translation of one of the greatest kid's books of the 20th century.

And folks, can't we back off Tim Burton here? He has literally made ONE bad movie in his entire career, and that starred Mark Wahlberg. Here, we have Depp. Spot the diff? And the source material here is far far far more suited to Burton's style than Apes was.

"I can just imagine the wave of angry parents returning their DVDs of Wonka 2005, thinking that what they'd bought for their kids was quality family entertainment... only for the kids to start screaming and crying uncontrollably when they realize that child characters were actually killed off."

Ya know, the kids didn't exactly meet rosey fates in the original. After Augustus got shot up to the boiler, after Violet was rolled out, after Veruca fell down the furnace, after Mike got shrunk-they didn't really mention them again, did they? And besides, if kids can handle reading the book without breaking down into blubbing puddles of goo at the off-screen "deaths", then I don't tihnk they need to be shielded from such black humor on the big screen. I doubt Wonka will come and say "they're dead!", so the kids'll muddle along just fine.
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#15 Posted on 9.7.04 0925.30
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    A co-worker of mine at the Blockbuster I work out told me what he'd heard about this new movie. And I'll pass, thanks.

    (Keep in mind I haven't read the book.)

    Supposedly when the kids get eliminated, they get killed, Wonka's more evil than he is wacky, and there's no music.

    I can just imagine the wave of angry parents returning their DVDs of Wonka 2005, thinking that what they'd bought for their kids was quality family entertainment... only for the kids to start screaming and crying uncontrollably when they realize that child characters were actually killed off.

    Like I said, I only have my co-worker's story to verify this story. But I'm already getting seriously bad vibes.


See, this in my mind is what will make it good, not something that will make it bad.

Sure, we don't want to see Depp try to play Gene Wilder and do a goofy exact re-make. But he will be AWESOME as the Wonka from Dahl's book...creepy, a little more evil but still pretty subtle about it and with "good" intentions.

I guess it would be a good guess to say that it won't "live up" to the original movie as far as cult status goes, but it will probably be a very entertaining movie.
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