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Omar Padilla
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#1 Posted on 5.7.04 2147.09
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It's 5-3 Dodgers, with one out, Gagne serves up a hanging curveball to Hillenbrand and that goes for a single.

It gets Luis Gonzalez to the plate, he doubles in Hillenbrand. Crowd goes 'awwwww'.

Chad Tracy comes up....two quick strikes on him. Crowd goes NUTS!

Tracy then hits a grounder to first, which goes off of Saenz's (the first baseman) glove, which deflects the ball past Cora the 2nd baseman who was backing him up and Gonzalez scores to tie the game at 5-5 and ending Gagne's 84 consecutive save streak.

Standing ovation followed and Vin Scully reflected for a bit.


Right before the game was tied, a graphic showed that Gagne's last blown save on Aug. 16, 2002 came against the Arizona Diamondbacks.
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#2 Posted on 5.7.04 2149.18
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Not counting, of course, the All-Star Game.

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#3 Posted on 5.7.04 2158.17
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It's funny how when it comes to Gagne's streak, the All-Star game suddenly stops being an 'exhibition game' and is all about the stats.

I don't see Bonds getting credit for his season stats for the homer he hit or Ripken being credited with another 'game played' for his iron man streak.
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#4 Posted on 6.7.04 0122.39
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    Originally posted by Omar Padilla
    It's funny how when it comes to Gagne's streak, the All-Star game suddenly stops being an 'exhibition game' and is all about the stats.

    I don't see Bonds getting credit for his season stats for the homer he hit or Ripken being credited with another 'game played' for his iron man streak.


Well, it DID count for home field. Regardless, the streak boggles my mind. And Gagne is a freak. I'd take him ANY DAY.

Classy move by the Dodger fans to give him a standing ovation after the blown save. And classy move by him to do the curtain call even though he probably wasn't all that thrilled the ball got through to the OF.
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#5 Posted on 6.7.04 0612.21
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Gagne's streak was nice, but let's not get carried away. It does not carry the panache or 56; 59; 2,632; even eight straight games with a home run or 24 consecutive wins. The save has been too cheapeaned over the year for it ever to be as important as those numbers...
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#6 Posted on 6.7.04 0712.02
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So the streak is over - big deal - I agree with grimis in that it is a cheapened stat and I think it is a worthless stat nowadays.
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#7 Posted on 6.7.04 0717.17
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But as has been pointed out, Gagne's streak did something that those other "more glamorous" streaks didn't do...

...it GUARANTEED a win.
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#8 Posted on 6.7.04 0815.45
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Gagne's streak was nice, but let's not get carried away. It does not carry the panache or 56; 59; 2,632; even eight straight games with a home run or 24 consecutive wins. The save has been too cheapened over the year for it ever to be as important as those numbers...
I gotta disagree here, but only to a point. I am not putting Gagne up there with Vander Meer, Ripken, or Joe D, but the streak, to me anyway, is quite phenomenal. If you think about all of the things that can contribute to a blown save without it being his fault, like a no-outs double-play with the bases loaded down a run; or a passed ball or error. Then things that could have been his fault, like a wild pitch or balk with a runner on third , a bases loaded walk, or even a hit. Baseball, as we all know, is just a quirky game, and things have a way of happening sometimes. Its just that for 84 straight save opportunities, things just didn't happen. I totally agree with not getting carried away, but think we all did witness something pretty special.
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#9 Posted on 6.7.04 0948.35
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I'd say the most impressive aspect of the streak is its sheer length. The five longest streak in Major League history are:

Gagne: 84
Tom Gordon: 54
Trevor Hoffman: 41
Rod Beck: 41
Dennis Eckersley: 40

Two things:

1. Anytime someone does something in sport that is LEGITIMATELY over 50% better than the previous best, is impressive, no matter (to a point) how non-glamorous the feat is. I remember MJ scoring double-figures in like 1000 straight games (probably more) and thinking, "ten points per game is not so tough", then hearing the next longest streak was around 400 and thinking "Damn."

2. Gagne's streak is similar to Joe D's in that it's SO FAR out there I can see a fairly pressure-packed build-up for the next guy to get to 50, then 60, then 70, as he approaches Gagne's record. Obviously it wouldn't be as intense as a guy getting toward a 56-game hitting streak (face it, a guy who's HALFWAY there gets live look-ins to his at-bats on SportsCenter) but now that there is a number to approach I can see the next guy being reminded of it once he gets halfway to 84.
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#10 Posted on 6.7.04 1004.08
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What's amazing about this streak is how everythng has to go just right with the whole team. A bobbled ball or a bloop hit. he is a great reliever but think of the luck involved.
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#11 Posted on 6.7.04 1035.32
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    What's amazing about this streak is how everythng has to go just right with the whole team. A bobbled ball or a bloop hit. he is a great reliever but think of the luck involved.
But the same thing can be said for Orel Hershiser throwing 59 conescutive scoreless innings, which I find to be much more impressive than Gagne's streak. That's six straight shutouts and then some...
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#12 Posted on 6.7.04 1913.16
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I'm very impressed with Gagne's streak especially considering he didn't blow a game over an entire 162 game season and then some. Saves are not automatic at all. This year Cleveland has blown more saves than they've converted.

I think John Smoltz had a similar record last year where in his last 50+ appearances, the Braves never lost. Gagne's winning streak should continue in the same fashion since the Dodgers did end up winning anyway last night.

Considering the Dodgers have such a weapon in Gagne it is amazing that they haven't won more games. If all Gagne needs is a one run lead, the Dodgers should have easily won the division the last two years.
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#13 Posted on 6.7.04 1956.01
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Ask anybody who cheers for a good team that doesn't have a closer if saves are overrated. Perhaps I'm a bit biased since I grew up a Dennis Eckersley fan, but trust me there is nothing more frustrating than having a team that can win games for 8/9 innings only to blow it in the ninth on a regular basis.

As an example, if the A's don't have Arthur Rhodes and Jim Mecir closing games before the Dotel trade they've got a nice lead in the AL West today rather than being in a dogfight with the Rangers.

It seems simple on paper, but to have a guy who can be counted on to nail the game down night in and night out is invaluable. I'll take the DiMaggio or Hershiser records over Gagne's streak, but like JJD said it's all right there in the second place number. If you've got that type of distance on second place, you've done something special.
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#14 Posted on 6.7.04 2024.25
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    Originally posted by skorpio17
    I think John Smoltz had a similar record last year where in his last 50+ appearances, the Braves never lost. Gagne's winning streak should continue in the same fashion since the Dodgers did end up winning anyway last night.

    Considering the Dodgers have such a weapon in Gagne it is amazing that they haven't won more games. If all Gagne needs is a one run lead, the Dodgers should have easily won the division the last two years.


Gagne has come into some tie games and coughed up a lead though. He did take the loss in three games last year though. I don't know how many appearances have spanned these losses, but it's not like he was completely infallible during his run. I don't mean to take away from him, I'm just saying is all...

That's part of the reason why the Dodgers haven't been better...they haven't had the offense to get him even a 1-run lead to protect a lot of the time.
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#15 Posted on 8.7.04 1312.12
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I also have to say it's a very impressive record, like JayJay said beating the previous record by my calculations by almost 65% is a real statement. He "blew" the save but his team still won the game Haha... Finding a real consistent closer is so important, nothing is as demoralizing then losing a game in the 9th.

The day after on June 6, Gagne 1-IP, 0-Runs, 0-BB, 1-K and a SAVE... Well one down, 83 to go
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