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#1 Posted on 22.3.02 0216.16
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(NOTE: This post is not meant in anyway to be disrespectful to Droz or D'Lo)

Back a couple years ago, Kurt Angle brought up the point that D'Lo doesn't count. Why is that anyway? Most likely it can be attributed to the injury to Darren Drozdov from one of Brown's powerbombs. That's where things seemed to fall apart. Sure, he's had a few things to do here and there (Arab character and all...) Was he being punished by the company for his accident? Did something mentally happen to him which caused him to doubt himself to the point that he was no longer a rising talent, but rather like every other vanilla wrestler? Or was this something inevitable? Was D'Lo Brown really not as good as we thought he was?

My question is: What if D'Lo had never paralyzed Droz? Where would he be today? Would he have ever held the WWF World Title? Maybe he could've feuded with Booker T at the beginning of InVasion and won the WCW title.

One more question: Will D'Lo ever get that high now? Could he be the WWF Undisputed Champ these days?

Just some stuff I was thinking about...
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#2 Posted on 22.3.02 0242.12
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damn. what was d-lo doing after the whole chest protector and european champion thing? did the pms angle come after a hurt droz?
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#3 Posted on 22.3.02 0607.44
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D-Lo would've ended up in the same place through different reasons probably. Instead of his confidence being shot after Droz getting hurt, he would have just tailed off like any other guy the WWF doesn't know what to do with (somebody already mentioned the PMS angle). He was perfect doing that stuff with the European Title, and I thought was a good whiny heel. The problem was that no heel was going to get any attention except for the one that was being shoved down the fans throat at the time.
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#4 Posted on 22.3.02 0651.07
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I read (either at the Torch or the Observer) that D'Lo has been offered a try-out as color commentator (along with Raven and Stevie Richards). I dunno if you consider that a step up or not, but it seems like they'd like for him to have something to do.

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#5 Posted on 22.3.02 0722.26
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I read (either at the Torch or the Observer) that D'Lo has been offered a try-out as color commentator

That's weird. D'Lo was never very good on the mic.

I'm of the opinion that D'Lo would have gone pretty damn far, because he had "it." "It" being a lot of natural charisma. He was one of those guys who was really over with the crowd at his peak for no real reason you could put your finger on. He didn't really have much of a character or gimmick, he wasn't pushed that hard by the WWF, even when he had the IC belt for a week, and he didn't get hardly any mic time. But the crowd really latched on to him as a face. This gives me hope that when he comes back he'll be able to do something.

His matches after the Droz incident weren't noticably different from the ones before. He even busted out the running liger bomb a couple of times (the move Droz got injured with).
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#6 Posted on 22.3.02 0759.13
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The "D'Lo is blacklisted" theory doesn't hold up because:
1) Droz wasn't a political player
2) Droz wasn't ever any kind of draw
3) Droz wasn't a very good wrestler

Since arguably the accident could have even been Droz's fault (failure to protect himself properly), I don't think D'Lo's being "punished".

In reality, D'Lo wasn't all that great of a worker. He was mildly over as a heel and drew minor heat, but he wasn't going to cause a riot at the ticket window. There are alot of other guys in the fed right now who either can work better or draw better. Same deal with Mark Henry.
Both guys have charisma, but charisma alone don't pay the bills. D'Lo is a pretty sharp guy (he's a CPA), I for one could envision him doing rather well on commentary.

As long as he never tries to throw a worked punch again...
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#7 Posted on 22.3.02 0843.50
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Someone else who pays more attention may be able to give a be more detailed account but at a Pillman Memorial a couple of years back, didn't no less than Ric Flair give major legit props to D'Lo as having "It" or something to that effect?

He can't be that bad...
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#8 Posted on 22.3.02 0851.08
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Go back and watch some D'Lo matches. Trust me, you'll see that whilke the head bob is minorly amusing, he's realy indy-spot tastic. Which doesn't work so well for a clumsy fat guy.
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#9 Posted on 22.3.02 0858.52
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    Originally posted by Travis
    Go back and watch some D'Lo matches. Trust me, you'll see that whilke the head bob is minorly amusing, he's realy indy-spot tastic. Which doesn't work so well for a clumsy fat guy.


I think you're underrating D'Lo. He might not be the best worker toiling away in the minors, but he's got charisma that the fans connected with in the past. There are guys who are one-spot wonders (Scotty 2 Hotty) and are still on television semi-regularly because the fans get behind him. If D'Lo goes out there and gets the fans to hate his guts, he'll be worth having. He also will not have to deal with as many established heels keeping him from developing more heel heat with the split roster.
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#10 Posted on 22.3.02 0926.56
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D'Lo was quite simply the man. While he may not have the charisma of everyone's favorite Blue Chipper, he was the reason I cared about the Nation in the first place, well before our Blue Chipper Champion joined them. He was pretty good in the ring, though not the best, but he also had a damn fine sense of timing. I'm looking forward to seeing the Real Deal again. Whooop! I'm gonna kick your sorry ass out on the street.. victory sweet.. *does the head shake*
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#11 Posted on 22.3.02 1033.16
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    Originally posted by Travis
    The "D'Lo is blacklisted" theory doesn't hold up because:
    1) Droz wasn't a political player
    2) Droz wasn't ever any kind of draw
    3) Droz wasn't a very good wrestler



while i'm not endorsing the blacklist theory (which no one here ever actually said they believe), that's just nine levels of bullshit.
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#12 Posted on 22.3.02 1035.06
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    Originally posted by Notorious F.A.B.

      Originally posted by Travis
      The "D'Lo is blacklisted" theory doesn't hold up because:
      1) Droz wasn't a political player
      2) Droz wasn't ever any kind of draw
      3) Droz wasn't a very good wrestler



    while i'm not endorsing the blacklist theory (which no one here ever actually said they believe), that's just nine levels of bullshit.



Which one of those three points are you saying is untrue?

Yeah, it sucks the guy is in a wheelchair, but that doesn't instantly make all of his previous work pure gold.
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#13 Posted on 22.3.02 1044.47
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D'Lo has always seemed like a charismatic enough guy. He had his moments around 1997 and 1998. I thought he was a good stooge in the Nation and he ended up having one of the more memorable European Title reigns, but then just kind of got de-pushed in 1999. Rumor has it that it was because he was "too fat," which seems to be the WWF's standard excuse for "We're clueless on what to do with you."

I don't think he'd make a good color commentator, though. That position sounds like something that would be better served if Mr. Perfect or Raven got that spot. Both have proven themselves in the past to be reasonably witty guys with vocal charisma.
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#14 Posted on 22.3.02 1049.14
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    Originally posted by Travis
    Which one of those three points are you saying is untrue?


they're all true. the bullshit is you inferring that it doesn't matter he got paralyzed because of those three things.



    Yeah, it sucks the guy is in a wheelchair, but that doesn't instantly make all of his previous work pure gold.


and i'm not saying it does.
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#15 Posted on 22.3.02 1052.58
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    Originally posted by Notorious F.A.B.

      Originally posted by Travis
      Which one of those three points are you saying is untrue?


    they're all true. the bullshit is you inferring that it doesn't matter he got paralyzed because of those three things.



      Yeah, it sucks the guy is in a wheelchair, but that doesn't instantly make all of his previous work pure gold.


    and i'm not saying it does.



I'm not saying his paralysis is irrelevant. However, from a business standpoint, D'Lo didn't cause the company any major loss, and Droz didn't have any political pals to exact a vendetta on D'Lo. And like I said, a botched powerbomb spot is a two-way street...Droz could have easily failed to properly protect himself.
Therefore any "punishment" placed on D'Lo would be both unjustified and illogical.
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#16 Posted on 22.3.02 1101.40
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Droz has publically said that he doesn't blame D'Lo and doesn't hold any ill will toward him. From what I understood of the accident, it was essentially a freak accident of the sort that (unfortunately) sometimes happens. You see botched spots all the time on TV that aren't either wrestler's "fault." It wasn't like Owen's piledriver, which you could tell was 100% Owen's fault.

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#17 Posted on 22.3.02 1125.59
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D'Lo never struck me as World Champ material, but I always thought he had potential to be in that upper mid-card tier, and while everyone likes his heel role, I think he had even more potential as a face. The few times he ever got a push in an upper-card face role, such as against Jarrett, I thought he did a hell of a job. I'd love to see D'Lo back assuming he's got his head on straight after the Droz thing.
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#18 Posted on 22.3.02 1147.56
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I love me some D'Lo. I wish he was on WWF TV. But if you want to see something eerie, go watch Summerslam '98 and watch the Val/D'Lo match. He was doing the running Powerbomb and tripped and dropped Val right on his head. Similiar to what happened with Droz.

I cannot imagine how D'Lo has to feel about Droz. It is an accident, but he has to live with the fact he paralyzed someone. But it is class being shown when the WWF keeps Droz on the payroll anyway.
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#19 Posted on 22.3.02 1150.35
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You know who D-Lo reminded me of? Triple H during the "blueblood" stage. CHarisma, some in ring ability (and D-Lo's more agile than HHH-pre or post roids), but stuck in a nowhere gimmick. If the Droz accident had never happened, maybe D-Lo would have gotten an "edge", fine-tuned the gimmick and gotten over enough to finally break on through to that top card. Maybe D-Lo would be the one boning Stephanie right now and spitting water at the audience. Then again, had the accident not happened, D-Lo could have been killed in a car accident on the way home from celebrating having a good match with Droz. Life's unpredictable.

BTW Travis: "Charisma alone don't pay the bills"?
Come on! Think about what you said, then take a good long look at WWF wrestling since Hulk Hogan won his first WWF World title. Hogan's career existed solely because of it. THe Ultimate Warrior got by on it. Damn near every top carder relies completely on charisma. Why do you think it's called "Sports Entertainment" in the WWF? Hell, I'm willing to bet that if D-Lo were allowed to come back Monday and go on a Triple-H style rampage with an aluminum baseball bat (and not have Jim Ross bury him in the commentary like he did to Booker T) he would be as over as Stone Cold or Triple H (I was gonna say the Rock or Hogan too... but let's not go f'n nuts!)
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#20 Posted on 22.3.02 1155.50
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Hogan is the exception to the rule. In the long term no amount of charisma can overcome the inability to suspend disbelief. Look at Big Show. He's a naturally likeable goof, but no one buys him as any kind of threat. The Warrior was absolute DEATH at the box-office. Look at the numbers during his run as World Champ. It was a disasterous failure.
A charismatic guy who *can work* draws. A guy like D'Lo jerks the curtain, at best.
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