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|#41 Posted on 17.6.04 1937.34 |
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| I have to say Cleveland also. For the same reasons that so many others have covered. One thing no one has mentioned is the fact that Art Modell freaking took football out of Cleveland for two (or was it three) years. Some of the best fans in football and he takes the team to Baltimore. Where they win the Super Bowl, something the Browns have never done. |
The Cavs. They came so close to beating Jordan so many times. It would always go to the final game. And he would always beat them at the end. I guess he did that to lots of teams. In his last game in Cleveland, as a Wizard, Jordan hit a game ending jumper to beat the Cavs by one. Just once, he could have missed it.
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|#42 Posted on 17.6.04 2109.12 |
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| I have to agree with pretty much everyone that Philly and Cleveland should be 1 and 2. |
But how about Portland? Sure they only have 1 team but the Blazers should count for at least 2 with as many first round losses and general embarrassment off the court. Also Portland is trying to woo the freaking Expos. Sure they are going to end up in D.C. but come on the Expos? This is a city that got excited about their USFL team.
Also how about Seattle? All their teams have been pretty forgettable.
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|AIM: || ||#43 Posted on 18.6.04 0007.38 |
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| (dodging bricks from my Denver pick)|
We were ridiculed for years, that's what I mentioned it.
One of the cruelest things I ever saw the infamous Wheaties "Super Bowl Champion Broncos" box from 1988. That HAD to have been a deliberate joke. The second quarter of Super Bowl 22 is the worst showing by ANY team in Super Bowl history...and that was after the Donkies were up 14-0.
I don't really count the ice skating team. Alot of people don't feel like that's "our" team. When they arrived in late 1995, alot of people felt like they HAD to like 'em. The Broncos have always been Denver's main team.
That said, I have no problem if Cleveland's #1. The Curse of Rocky Collavito is every bit as big as the Curse of the Bambino, the Billy Goat, Frank WhatshisName's Boner, and the rest. Plus, they got shafted by Art Modell, the Drive/Fumble/Blowout, and the Cavs aren't too amazing.
Philly I'm not so sure of. The old A's were awesome waaaay back when. Phillies won the Series in 1980 and a few pennants. Philadelphia even had close to 100 "amatuer" teams in the early days of organized baseball (1880's or so, when "amatuer" was actually a compliment). The Eagles have only won one championship, back in the 50's. I'm not a basketball guru at all, but didn't they have Dr. J in the 70's? In our lifetime, Philly hasn't been nifty.. but over the past 100 years it doesn't seem TOO crappy.
Alot of recent "top 100" polls usually pick something from the last 10 years as the 'greatest' or "worst". I'm remembering the "Visa top 100 baseball moments"...where Cal Ripken passing Lou Gehrig was voted #1 (No knock on Ripken, but there's no way that's better than Gehrig's retirement speech or Mazeroski's homerun). If recent history continues to hold weight in "all time lists", then pretty soon PITTSBURGH will be considered a cursed city.
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|#44 Posted on 18.6.04 1619.13 |
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| I've lived in Boston and currently reside in the suburbs of Philadelphia. Having become ingrained in both sports scenes over the years, I can tell you that Boston fans are in no way, shape or form more tortured than these poor bastards here.|
I have yet to talk to an Eagles fan (and there are seemingly millions, they come out of the woodwork and talk about the team all year round) who doesn't shake his/her head when talk of Jake Delhomme or Joe Jurevicius comes up. It's truly amazing how much these folks love their football team and just ache for them to win a Super Bowl. There are football fans here who can recite chapter and verse regarding the Eagles, and will do so if given the chance.
The local sports-talk radio station here is pretty good overall, but man, if something bad happens, it's discussed right down to the smallest minutiae. By the way, Smarty Jones was labeled a "failure" by a lot of folks around here despite the fact that he won the so-called "Super Bowl of Horse Racing", the Kentucky Derby. He failed, of course to win the Triple Crown, and again, it was considered a "Philly failure", although a lot of people said it didn't "compare" to the losses in the NFC Championship games.
The Sixers are in a rebuilding phase, and I'm actually jealous of the fact that Jimmy O'Brien (who is a Philly native, by the way) is now the new coach. They are easily the 4th team in the city in terms of fanbase, but AI gets dissed on a daily basis on the radio. The tease of the finals a few years ago was only made worse this year when Larry Brown up and left, and went and won his first world title with the Pistons, against the team that had murdered the Sixers in four straight after the miraculous opening win.
The Flyers have a rabid fanbase (called "Stepfords" locally) who never, ever critcize the team or the management (headed by local legends Bobby Clarke and Ed Snider). It's because of this loyalty that when their collective hearts are broken that they find themselves lower than low. The main complaint from these folks is that "Clarke never trades for goal tenders, he just trades for front-liners." I guess it's true, but they do have a fairly impressive regular season record over the last few years.
The Phillies won their only WS in 1980, and competed in it in 1983 (losing to the Orioles) and 1993 ("Joe Mother-effing Carter" is how it's commonly referred to around here). Other than that, it's been slim pickin's and a lot of colorful characters who weren't good ball players.
All in all, a fun area to live in, but these people live, eat, breathe and love these teams like no one's business, and they are desperate for ANY world championship to be claimed.
(edited by The Red Sox Fan on 18.6.04 1720)
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