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#41 Posted on 10.6.04 1934.58
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    Originally posted by komarkaze
    And I never got why Caroline in the City lasted as long as it did.


Because of people like me who lusted after Lea Thompson.

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#42 Posted on 10.6.04 1959.18
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Grace Under Fire was god awful... A show about a redneck trying to make it. It's like Roseanne - except taking out all the likeable aspects. (We'll pretend the last season of Roseanne didn't happen.) Grace and...whatever the name of her ex-husband were was akin to watching a half hour of nothing but Roseanne and Arnie.

I don't want to hear ANYONE rag on Saved By The Bell. However - feel free to bash away at Saved By The Bell: THE NEW CLASS. My god, I don't know how many years that spanned (the original lasted 4) - but it seemed for years I couldn't turn on the TV on Saturdays without seeing that demonspawn in my face.

Wings was mentioned...good call.

Boy Meets World was on EIGHT SEASONS?!?!?!? Tell me that list isn't accurate???? I think I watched part of the first season and I thought the show was taken off the air after that!
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#43 Posted on 10.6.04 2003.13
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OK, now this is just my opinion, of course, but the true sitcoms from hell were originally broadcast back in the 1960's. For example, Please Don't Eat The Daisies (imdb.com) ran for two years on NBC (plus quite a few in syndication thereafter) and managed to have fewer laughs in its fifty-eight episodes combined than the disappointing movie it was based on (I have been told, however, that the book is quite good). The humor highlight of each episode was when the next door neighbor Herb would come to visit and enter through the window in the study, as opposed to using the front door. One episode was dedicated to explaining why. No episodes were dedicated to explaining why anyone would think this was funny.

Another example of "why would anyone think this was funny?" is Hogan's Heroes (imdb.com) . For six seasons and 168 episodes television viewers got to see how life in a Nazi POW camp in World War II was nothing but fun, fun, fun! And those kooky Nazis; boy were they funny! It's hard to decide which is more bizarre: that CBS would have the poor taste to run a sitcom set in a Nazi prison camp, or that so many Americans would actually watch it. Rightly labeled one of the worst all-time shows by TV Guide.

There are others I could name from this time period, but I'll end this post by citing what is in my opinion the worst of the popular sitcoms, Gilligan's Island (imdb.com) . It's said that this show is so popular in re-runs that, no matter what time of day it is, an episode of "Gilligan's Island" is being broadcast somewhere in the world. The castaways spent three seasons and 98 episodes on CBS stranded on an uncharted island. There isn't enough bandwidth in all of cyberspace for me to list all the reasons why IMHO this is hands down the dumbest show in television history; but worse than being dumb, it just isn't funny. Typical episode: "Hey, we can get off the island!" "Oh no, Gilligan screwed up our chance to get off the island." It would take 15 years and a switch to NBC for a re-union movie before the castaways finally realized that they could just build a boat and sail home. IMHO the worst long-running sitcom ever.
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#44 Posted on 10.6.04 2113.55
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I gotta give some love to Seinfeld, Two Guys and a Girl and Wings.

As for "worst", you got your Full House and Saved By The Bell. Those are the real obvious ones I think.
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#45 Posted on 10.6.04 2125.53
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How can you not like Seinfeld?
At least don't put it with "Wings" and these other shows.
Where else on network TV could you have neurotic characters like George Costanza say things like "I don't carry a pen in my pocket because I'm worried I might puncture my scrotum".
also,
"We have a deal with the pigeons!"
(talking about hitting a pigeon who didn't get out of the way of his oncoming car)
Of course, many women first learned of the "shrinkage" that happens to men after they come out of the water. I loved that George chased the woman around because she didn't get a look at the "real me".
I loved a show where characters schemed to bring a truckload of empty bottles and cans to Michigan for the 10 cent deposit and worked it out so they would still make a profit.

Yeah, the acting (especially Jerry) wasn't perfect, but the ideas were.
I just don't understand people who say they've never laughed at anything in a Seinfeld episode.
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#46 Posted on 10.6.04 2131.58
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    Originally posted by Downtown Bookie
    Another example of "why would anyone think this was funny?" is Hogan's Heroes (imdb.com) . For six seasons and 168 episodes television viewers got to see how life in a Nazi POW camp in World War II was nothing but fun, fun, fun! And those kooky Nazis; boy were they funny! It's hard to decide which is more bizarre: that CBS would have the poor taste to run a sitcom set in a Nazi prison camp, or that so many Americans would actually watch it. Rightly labeled one of the worst all-time shows by TV Guide.

    There are others I could name from this time period, but I'll end this post by citing what is in my opinion the worst of the popular sitcoms, Gilligan's Island (imdb.com) . It's said that this show is so popular in re-runs that, no matter what time of day it is, an episode of "Gilligan's Island" is being broadcast somewhere in the world. The castaways spent three seasons and 98 episodes on CBS stranded on an uncharted island. There isn't enough bandwidth in all of cyberspace for me to list all the reasons why IMHO this is hands down the dumbest show in television history; but worse than being dumb, it just isn't funny. Typical episode: "Hey, we can get off the island!" "Oh no, Gilligan screwed up our chance to get off the island." It would take 15 years and a switch to NBC for a re-union movie before the castaways finally realized that they could just build a boat and sail home. IMHO the worst long-running sitcom ever.







Actually, the castaways created a giant hut that they used when a typhoon washed out the island in order to get into the shipping lanes.
As for Hogan's Heroes: TV Guide is a bunch of pissants who think Phil Mushnick's opinion is actually worth more than a piece of used toilet paper. A brilliant comedic adaptation of Stalag 17, it continually poked fun at the Nazis.
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#47 Posted on 10.6.04 2228.13
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An old one for ya, Maude! Before my time, but I've watched reruns.

Anything from the old TGI friday lineup on ABC should be there too. Blossum, Family Matters, Full House, Boy Meets World, Sister Sister, that show with the talking dinosaurs.

But of course FRIENDS ranks number one on my list as well
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#48 Posted on 10.6.04 2250.00
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As father of three, ages 5,4, & 1, I gotta warn ya to watch what you say about SpongeBob!

Seriously, wouldn't it be easier to talk about the rare shows that didn't bite? I like stuff like the Pretender, Star Trek: TNG, Monk, Highlander, and most anime. Most stuff on TV just stinks to high heaven. I don't know if I could pick just one for the worst....
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#49 Posted on 10.6.04 2316.59
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I still stand by Full House as the worst, but I'll add that Everybody Loves Raymond is the most over-praised sitcom of all time. That show sucks but it constantly wins awards.
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#50 Posted on 11.6.04 0009.21
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Seeing who directed that "sitcom", I reminded of another doozy: Charles in Charge.

Although, I'm not one to resist the comedic stylings of Willie "Bibleman" Ames and Scott Baio - "Zapped" anyone?
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#51 Posted on 11.6.04 0013.46
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Charles In Charge wasn't that bad. I was young, but Buddy Lembeck was a pretty hilarious character.

This might seem like sacrilege to some (and it's not really a pure sitcom), but I always really hated M*A*S*H. I've given that show a dozen chances, but I've never seen an episode I've ever even mildly thought was funny.
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#52 Posted on 11.6.04 0014.16
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Here's the deal...

Good Morning, Miss Bliss ran from 1987 to 1989 on NBC. It featured a bunch of kids at Bayside Junior High. After two years, the entire cast save for Mark-Paul Gosselaar (Zack), Dennis Haskins (Mr. Belding), Lark Voorhies (Lisa) & Dustin Diamond (Screech) was replaced and the show moved to high school and renamed Saved By the Bell. The show added Mario Lopez (Slater), Elizabeth Berkley (Jessie), Tiffani Thiessen (Kelly) and ran from 1989 until the inevitable graduation of the characters from high school in 1993. The show was over, right? WRONG. Knowing there was still profit to be had, NBC did the logical thing: SPIN-OFFS. The first, California Dreams sprang up in 1992 and ran until 1996. The show had nothing in common with Saved by the Bell except for writers & producers, and it was just Saved by the Bell with surfers in a band. The next spin-off followed the core cast from the original show into college with the aptly titled Saved By the Bell: The College Years. Zack, Kelly, Slater & Screech were in college and joined by zany college friends. The show lasted the entire 1993-94 season as the producers realized half-way through that nobody cared anymore and fast-tracked a TV-movie to end things. At the same time, Saved By the Bell: The New Class just hung around like a stinky fart from 1993 until 2000. Yes, that long. It featured Screech, Mr. Belding and a bunch of people nobody cared about. You might be wondering "How can a show about kids in high school run for longer than 4 years?" The simple answer is that NBC replaced half the cast throughout the show, so if you catch two seperate episodes in syndication there's a good chance you won't see any of the same people twice. Gotta love continuity.

Now, don't forget about the fancy TV movies. The first, Saved By the Bell: Hawaiian Style featured...get THIS, the entire original cast in Hawaii for some vague reason. The next ,and mercifully the swansong for the original cast came in 1994 at the conclusion of the College Years series. After five or so years of pointless meandering, Kelly & Zack got married in the creatively titled Saved By the Bell: Wedding In Las Vegas.

Since the show ended...
-Mark-Paul Gosselaar was in a bunch of forgettable movies (like Dead Man On Campus) before lucking onto the role of Detective John Clark Jr. on NYPD Blue.
-Tiffani-Amber Thiessen was in a bunch of bad movies, then became the recent equivilent of Ted McGinley as she joined the casts of NewsRadio, Just Shoot Me, Two Guys And A Girl and Good Morning Miami just before they got cancelled.
-Mario Lopez was on Pacific Blue on the USA Network and then co-hosted The Other Half.
-Lark Voorhies was on the Bold and the Beautiful for 2 seasons, then dropped off the face of the Earth.
-Dustin Diamond was in The New Class series...and Celebrity Boxing.
-Elizabeth Berkley was the runaway star of the group, showing her rack in Showgirls and then...did nothing of note.
-And Dennis Haskins (Mr. Belding) also did nothing.

And now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
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#53 Posted on 11.6.04 0130.21
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Dennis Haskins showed up as a random politician on an episode of West Wing a few years ago. I don't think it was a speaking role.
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#54 Posted on 11.6.04 0140.16
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    Originally posted by Nag
    An old one for ya, Maude! Before my time, but I've watched reruns.

    Anything from the old TGI friday lineup on ABC should be there too. Blossum, Family Matters, Full House, Boy Meets World, Sister Sister, that show with the talking dinosaurs.


A few things. First, Blossom wasnt a part of the TGIF lineup. It was on NBC. (Plus, Jenna von Oy had a J-lo ass before J-lo had a career) Second, if you didnt think DINOSAURS was funny, you must have never seen it on acid. Thirdly, if we are coming up with old shows from the BLOSSOM timeframe, lets not forget the NBC version of TGIF, which featured, among other shows, Empty Nest, Golden Girls and Nurses. All three set in Miami and all three sucking donkey balls.

While we are talking Blossom, lets not forget the show that her costar Joey Lawrence was on, GIMME A BREAK. SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK. That show sucked.

Somebody brought up Mark Paul Gosslear (spelling?)lucking into the NYPD Blue gig. But, if you have seen him on the show, especially this season, he is a powerful dramatic actor. Makes you forget Zack ever existed.



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#55 Posted on 11.6.04 0148.53
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    Thirdly, if we are coming up with old shows from the BLOSSOM timeframe, lets not forget the NBC version of TGIF, which featured, among other shows, Empty Nest, Golden Girls and Nurses. All three set in Miami and all three sucking donkey balls.


Tell me you did NOT just say that!

Empty Nest was great in its first few years because Richard Mulligan had some of the all-time great facial expressions of any sitcom actor in history. Dinah Manoff actually did a terrific job with her character (sort of a female George Costanza) before they ruined her along with everything else in the show after Kristy McNicol left. Oh, and Park Overall was also pretty funny.

Golden Girls is quite simply one of the funniest and best-cast shows of all time. I watch the reruns today and they still crack me up.

Nurses...well, I'll give you that one. That show was pretty craptacular, aside from the awesome David Rasche.
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#56 Posted on 11.6.04 0158.30
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Well, Empty Nest had Christy McNichol who I always thought was hot, and she was just so odd on the show, not in a good way either.
Richard Mulligan will always be Burt Campbell to me.


Golden Girls? I just dont get it. Never did. Probably never will. Old chicks just arent funny.
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#57 Posted on 11.6.04 0626.43
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    -Dustin Diamond was in The New Class series...and Celebrity Boxing


Screech has done some stand-up comedy shows throughout the years. I was visiting a friend of mine down in Baltimore (can't remember the name of the school) and as kids who grew up with Saved by the Bell we had to go see him. I've seen many comics, and Dustin Diamond was without a doubt the worst I have ever seen. After 4 or 5 completely failed bits, he would do a few quick Scheech mannerisms and the crowd would finally respond (out of sympathy? one can only assume).

    Originally posted by Staggerlee
    Second, if you didnt think DINOSAURS was funny, you must have never seen it on acid.


Agreed there. Well, not on the acid part, but I have every episode of Dinosaurs left over from when I was a kid and I loved the show. It's a favorite for drunken 4am "there's nothing on TV lets watch some really bad and nostalgic TV shows" sessions. I was prime age when the show came out, and I actually still have an Earl Sinclair figure somewhere in my room back home. I also used to have the talking Baby Sinclair toy, and I completely wore out the voicebox before I got rid of it. Truly a horrible show if you were anything but in the targeted age range.
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#58 Posted on 11.6.04 0631.57
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Golden Girls? I just dont get it. Never did. Probably never will. Old chicks just arent funny.


Bah. Let me tell you a little story about the sitcoms in St. Olaf...

The stars basically all fought for the role of Sophia (the oldest one), since she got all the best lines, but Bea Arthur's deadpan sarcasm and Betty White's bubbleheaded naivete stole many scenes.

Maude broke ground in terms of some of the topics they talked about; it had one of the first prime-time mentions of abortion, for instance.

And Hogan's Heroes was AWESOME, both for its humor value and for proving yet again that ANYTHING can be funny if presented in the proper context. I'd watch a 9/11 sitcom if the right people wrote the scripts and acted the roles (it's a pity that Michael O'Donoghue's dead).

I have a permanent grudge against the Saved By The Bell family, because they had bad acting, bad storylines, bad premises, an unnaturally long lifespan, and STILL managed to destroy what used to be a natural habitat for cartoons -- Saturday mornings.

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#59 Posted on 11.6.04 0802.35
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No one has mentioned the god awful "Alf" and "Good Times" with Jimmy JJ Walker.
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#60 Posted on 11.6.04 0807.27
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Another show that's currently on which should get some votes is Reba.

I completely forgot about California Dreams. Man, I watched that show every Saturday in university while getting through Friday hangovers. It was paired with some other show about an inner-city high school basketball team. For some reason I can't recall the name of that show, but it didn't have any girl as hot as Kelly Packard on CD.
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