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#1 Posted on 26.5.04 0720.26
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What was that last night? I mean Fox spends a whole week hyping up the finale saying that this is the show that brings the goods and yet what do we have for next season set up? As an episode I think it was good but it wasn't the blowaway show I expected. Overall this season was fun to watch but the way the show reaches mid season and they restart all storylines is kind of annoying, like is Jack still adicted to Heroine? Like I said I enjoyed the season but I think this last show lacked that special something.
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#2 Posted on 26.5.04 0751.20
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I'd rather have things wrapped up here than have an unsatisfying, never-followed-up cliffhanger like last season.
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#3 Posted on 26.5.04 0805.06
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I thought it was a great ending ... to see Jack finally breakdown and then compose himself was the payoff ...

I didn't see the ax thing coming at all ...
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#4 Posted on 26.5.04 0814.07
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Chase makes up for bad acting earlier in the season by taking the axe like a man. One thing that bothered me though, Palmer tells Jack that he owes him a huge debt, and that he want to thank him. Why doesn't Jack ask Palmer to pardon Tony? Poor Tony, he's had the worst day out of all of them. He got shot in the neck, came back to work, almost lost his wife twice, and now he's going to prison for treason. You'd think Jack would try to pull some strings for him. Oh well, maybe next season we'll find out that he did.
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#5 Posted on 26.5.04 0819.15
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According to this article, we'll pretty much see a whole new cast next season.

http://www.eonline.com/ News/Items/0,1,14174,00.html
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#6 Posted on 26.5.04 0839.52
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I thought the plot was kind of a mess this season, but the finale last night was a satisfying ending with some great character moments. It was enough to leave us with for 6 months. I definitely did not want another ending like last season.

I was really expecting a cliffhanger last night, where Jack drove off and someone killed Chase and Kim at the hospital, or he started his car and it blew up, or something. Glad they didn't pull any of that.

Jack breaking down at the end, tied in with his earlier conversation with Chase about being "detached," shows that he really isn't detached and isn't the well-trained killing machine he's been since Teri died anymore. It really summed up how affected he has been over the past three seasons.

He did a lot of terrible things, like killing Chappelle, killing Nina, almost killing Chase, and he supressed his emotions the whole time. Here, we finally saw him at a moment of peace where he could finally slow down and be human. He was probably also crying, because he helped Chase get out of his world when he knows he would like to do the same, but feels he's trapped in it forever.

Speaking of last season, I guess Wayne's throwaway line about arresting the man behind the attack on Palmer and all of his top level people must be referring to Max the German Yachtsman and Whitey the White Guy. I think they may have put the brakes on a wider conspiracy theory and decided to just let Season 2 and the time before Season 3 wrap things up. Still, why did they even bring back "Operation Nightfall" this year without any real follow through? I'm sure we'll get some more evil Europeans next year, but they must have felt that it wasn't worth developing without bringing closure this season.

But, closure was what they wanted to accomplish this season. No more Nina, Sherry, Chappelle, President Palmer, conspiracies-within-conspiracies. Everything began and ended with Saunders this season, according to Homeland Security Guy. At least, no more for six months.

Supposedly, next season will be completely different, and kicked off by a 2-hour episode. We won't have Chase and Michelle, and Tony as regulars. Jack is back for sure, and now that he's a private citizen, Palmer could be back in a much different role. I also heard Kiefer say in an interview that they're looking to steer away from one crisis to carry the season next season, but still keep the 24-hour format.

Overall, great show. Good season, if you can ignore many of the things that were dropped or don't make sense, and the finale was much better than I expected.


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#7 Posted on 26.5.04 0840.37
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    Originally posted by BWT
    Like I said I enjoyed the season but I think this last show lacked that special something.


I could not disagree with you more. To wit:

- Incredible acting from Kiefer ("Ladies and gentlemen of the Emmy board, I present for you...")

- Incredible acting from Dennis Haysbert. A fitting end to 3 seasons worth of a sweeping character arc for David Palmer. His scene with his brother where he realizes the cost of his mistake of getting in the mud with the Sherrys of the world rather than staying above it (like he did so well in Season One) was a great, if not exactly happy, conclusion for the character.

- An absolutely spine-tingling moment when Jack and Chase see the axe and lock eyes.

- Followed by the "HOLY SHIT!" moment of the TV year - "HE CUT OFF HIS MOTHERFUCKING HAND!" One of the main reasons I love 24 is that they have the balls to do this sort of thing, with no miracle solutions ("Jack, wait! Cut the purple wire and the timer will shut off" just as Jack lifts the axe)

- The layoff at the end with Jack was absolutely amazing, keeping in mind the main theme running the entire season of "Sacrifice for the Greater Good," going all the way back to Kyle Singer and Claudia and Hector Salazar, and Jack realizes the terrible cost that everyone has paid to stop the virus that day, and the terrible cost Jack himself has paid through the years for his country. Amazing, amazing stuff.

Granted, this season was very inconsistent at times, but this show is without a doubt worth being "Appointment Televsion"
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#8 Posted on 26.5.04 0952.37
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Ok to start who didnt expect the hand to be cut off? This is 24 were talking about. Personaly I was expecting a major plot development other then the president is stepping down and Jack actualy having a heart. Dont get me wrong this show brought the acting skills but I was expecting some big shock.
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#9 Posted on 26.5.04 0953.09
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Alpha - couldn't agree with you more. You summed it all up very well. The ending would have been more powerful for me if not for the fact that the 24 has conditioned me to look for the SHOCKING SWERVE at the end. As such, I was terrified that Jack was gonna off himself or the truck would blow up, something along those lines. What a relief that nothing of the sort happened!

When Jack saw Chase prepping the tourniquet - that was pretty badass on Chase's behalf.
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#10 Posted on 26.5.04 1200.01
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    Originally posted by whatever
    Alpha - couldn't agree with you more. You summed it all up very well. The ending would have been more powerful for me if not for the fact that the 24 has conditioned me to look for the SHOCKING SWERVE at the end. As such, I was terrified that Jack was gonna off himself or the truck would blow up, something along those lines. What a relief that nothing of the sort happened!

    When Jack saw Chase prepping the tourniquet - that was pretty badass on Chase's behalf.


In a newspaper, I think the Washington Post, it has a column where Kiefer says, he ishappy the season ended with no cliffhanger and he didn't like when they did that the last seasons. And he says the one thing he dind't like is how they handled his drug addication.
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#11 Posted on 27.5.04 2027.22
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I have to say that the season finale was O.K. but to be honest it would be really hard to surpass last seasons finale. Jack killed what 20 people in the last hour that year.
Plus the 24 concept has always been the shows biggest weakness. Sure it works good most of the time but we would have had to wait to find out about Chase and what Palmer was going to do. I still find it annoying that the new head of CTU was yelling at Tony instead of trying to find the virus.
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#12 Posted on 28.5.04 1751.39
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Jack Bauer: FIELD SURGEON. Awesome.

I'm a bit disappointed at the purging of our beloved cast members, but I suppose it is to be expected. I do hope Tony gets a pardon (and that E article suggests he'll be on the show once or twice next season, so maybe he will).

I can't imagine too great a role for ex-president Palmer, other than being Jack's golfing buddy. Maybe he'll be his new partner. (Or All-State representative).

I don't know why they're getting rid of Chase, either. They did a good job of deweloping his character. Maybe he'll come back next season as the villainous, metal-handed Darth Chase.

And if they depart from the 24-hours, one-disaster format, what will we get? Jack does a traffic stop in hour one. He's in the Congo in hour 7. Or maybe 8 hours of Jack sleeping. Or perhaps 12 hours of "character development" kinda stuff, and 12 hours of disasters.

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#13 Posted on 30.5.04 0055.24
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    Jack Bauer: FIELD SURGEON. Awesome.

    I'm a bit disappointed at the purging of our beloved cast members, but I suppose it is to be expected. I do hope Tony gets a pardon (and that E article suggests he'll be on the show once or twice next season, so maybe he will).

    I can't imagine too great a role for ex-president Palmer, other than being Jack's golfing buddy. Maybe he'll be his new partner. (Or All-State representative).

    I don't know why they're getting rid of Chase, either. They did a good job of deweloping his character. Maybe he'll come back next season as the villainous, metal-handed Darth Chase.

    And if they depart from the 24-hours, one-disaster format, what will we get? Jack does a traffic stop in hour one. He's in the Congo in hour 7. Or maybe 8 hours of Jack sleeping. Or perhaps 12 hours of "character development" kinda stuff, and 12 hours of disasters.

    (edited by PalpatineW on 29.5.04 0439)


I dunno, the ending kind of implied that Chase would be able to use his severed hand again. It looked like they were sewing it back on in the surgery room at the end.

Still there's a lot of lingering things after this season that I think need to be addressed. Like what happened to Stephen Saunders to make him go off the deep end? What happens to his daughter? Was Saunders working for anyone? Why did Saunders want Chappelle dead? Who was Nina buying the virus for? And what about the terrorists Salazar was supposed to name? The season opened with a flashback of Palmer's collapse at the end of season 2. Was all that just a pointless red herring?

I'm kind of annoyed that it looks like quite a few of the cast members I'd grown to like are leaving the show with seemingly only the chance to return in limited capacity. Daniel Dae Kim who played Agent Baker in season 2 and 3 would've made a great addition as a more permanent member of the cast in season 4. Sadly, while characters like Chase, Baker, Michelle, and Tony are leaving it looks like Kim will remain . Why not fire Chloe? Geezus h.

Looks like Senator Keeler will be the president by season 4, that is unless Palmer's vice president seeks the election win. I guess the Brad Hammond character recently introduced will fill out the CTU higher-up Chappelle/Mason role.
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#14 Posted on 30.5.04 0125.26
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Why did Saunders want Chappelle dead? Who was Nina buying the virus for?
This one was made pretty clear...Saunders didn't want CTU to find him and Chappelle was getting too close by following the money.
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#15 Posted on 30.5.04 1726.20
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Still there's a lot of lingering things after this season that I think need to be addressed. Like what happened to Stephen Saunders to make him go off the deep end?

Based on what he said to Jack in the next-to-last episode, about how his captors spent four years trying to break him (and how Jack had less than an hour to try doing the same), I think we're to assume that he was tortured for a pretty long time.


    Was Saunders working for anyone?

Palmer was told that somebody's investigation, FBI or CIA or whoever, concluded Saunders was on his own.


    And what about the terrorists Salazar was supposed to name?

I don't think he's gonna be able to name them.


    The season opened with a flashback of Palmer's collapse at the end of season 2. Was all that just a pointless red herring?

The only way it would have tied into this season was to explain Palmer's shortness of breath and that type of thing, which he showed early in the season. But that disappeared along with Jack's drug habit.


    Who was Nina buying the virus for?

Someone asked that to one of the writers on the 24 Inside show, and he said that if they answered every question there'd be nothing left to talk about.


    Why not fire Chloe? Geezus h.

They did, she was mentioned in the same line as Agent Baker in the E! article that was linked to earlier.
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#16 Posted on 31.5.04 1806.46
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Unless they're leaving the CTU location behind entirely, why even bother to fire guys like Daniel Kim? I wasn't aware that he even had a long-term contract, since he only appeared in 2-3 shows a season.
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