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#21 Posted on 5.5.04 1602.26
Reposted on: 5.5.11 1605.14
Actually I'm more inclined to believe that you are the one who's trolling. At least Jonny has put up actual arguments with links rather than sarcasm. Von Maestro, you started out bad by declaring that all terrorists will settle for nothing less than the death and destruction of their enemies, and that the only way to fight them is to sink to their level. The IRA was brought up because it quickly proved your broad, sweeping generalizations wrong. Maybe instead of arguing about whether the IRA can be compared to the PLO (and they can according to your first post, because they're both terrorist groups) you should go back, read your first post, and then write up something a little less generalized that actually proves a point.

As for you Grimis, if a new user posted this:
    Originally posted by Grimis
    Your defense of the PLO fucking disgusts me.

    Please admit that you are a terrorist appeaser and move on.
I would've banned them for 24 hours and told him not to be such a fucking troll. You, however, have rattled off over 3,000 posts and should know better. Feel free to take off until Friday, unless one of the Zim's overrule me on this one.
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#22 Posted on 5.5.04 1616.48
Reposted on: 5.5.11 1618.56
    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Actually I'm more inclined to believe that you are the one who's trolling.


That probably has more to do with your political bent than anything else.

    Originally posted by Jaguar
    At least Jonny has put up actual arguments with links rather than sarcasm.


Yes, he put up links. He put up links that shows that the PLO's goal is the "liquidation" of Israel, & then attempts to draw a parallel between the IRA & the PLO based on this charter. I don't know what kind of "actual argument with links" you think this represents, but that's your perspective & prerogative.

    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Von Maestro, you started out bad by declaring that all terrorists will settle for nothing less than the death and destruction of their enemies, and that the only way to fight them is to sink to their level.


I did NOT say the only way to fight them is to sink to their level, but I did say that you can not negotiate with them. BIG difference & you seem to be intentionally misrepresenting what I originally said.

I also MEANT to write "Islamic Terrorists" & made that clear in subsequent posts, but you obviously chose to ignore that & accuse me of trolling because I disagree with you...

    Originally posted by Jaguar
    As for you Grimis, if a new user posted this:
      Originally posted by Grimis
      Your defense of the PLO fucking disgusts me.

      Please admit that you are a terrorist appeaser and move on.
    I would've banned them for 24 hours and told him not to be such a fucking troll. You, however, have rattled off over 3,000 posts and should know better. Feel free to take off until Friday, unless one of the Zim's overrule me on this one.


I honestly hope that the Zims do overrule you on this, because it seems to me like an abuse of the mod power based solely on political affiliation.
Jonny said far worse things (basically dismissing the stated goals & aims of the PLO, & admitting to "sympathizing" with them... even going so far as to linking their Charter & standing with it!!), yet you ban Grimis for calling him on this ridiculous stance.
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#23 Posted on 5.5.04 1632.43
Reposted on: 5.5.11 1635.49
Sorry, I guess I was mistaken. I took this line "The sooner we understand this psyche of terror, the sooner we will stop trying to fight them within guidelines they have no regard for..." to mean fighting them without those guidelines, just like they fight us.

Maybe instead of decrying what side of the fence I sit on, maybe you could follow my suggestion and better define what you were trying to say in your first post?

Again, Grimis has been around for a long time and he knows better. Disagreeing with somebody's opinion (even in a hostile way) is what this forum is about. Outright flaming has no place here. His first sentence is okay. The second one is not. And I probably would've let it slide on by if he had bothered to add more to the conversation than just those two sentences.

-Jag


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#24 Posted on 5.5.04 1714.36
Reposted on: 5.5.11 1716.26
    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Sorry, I guess I was mistaken.
In more ways than one.
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