#21 Posted on 28.4.04 1356.54 Reposted on: 28.4.11 1357.27
Originally posted by The ThrillAnd as for "go back to the title of this thread"...yeah. It's about Muslim radicals threatening the peace, security, and religious freedom of the UK, and joining with Al-Qaeda to begin terrorist operations. Reality check...isn't that treason? WIPE THOSE GUYS OUT. IT'S F*CKING WAR.
And to bring things full circle - you can't wipe them out, at least not by invading country after country. If anything, that generates sympathy to their cause. We weren't exactly Mr. Popular over their to begin with.
And I think it's fairly predictable that invading a country that had nothing to do with our own problems - that from all evidence, wasn't even a threat to us - is going to help feed the anti-American sentiment, and help terrorist recruitment.
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#22 Posted on 28.4.04 1808.28 Reposted on: 28.4.11 1809.06
Originally posted by The Thrill
Originally posted by fuelinjectedWhat did going into Iraq have to do with any of that? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al-Qaeda. Iraq didn't attack America. I find this new American policy of "pre-emptive strikes" on the basis of faulty intelligence cherry picked by an administration that is hardly objective about the "enemy" to be treading in very dangerous water.
I'm talking about the terrorists and insurgents US troops are currently facing in Fallujah, Najaf, and elsewhere in Iraq. You know, the bad guys that are killing people for working with coalition authorities and committing crimes against Islam...in the name of Islam. Yeah, those guys. The sooner they've got M-16 bullets in their domes, the better.
Originally posted by fuelinjectedThose troops, that money...it should have gone to trying to resolve the Palestinian/Israel dispute.
Whoa...are you seriously suggesting US troops deployed in the Gaza Strip and West Bank? Gimme an f'n break.
Originally posted by TheBucsFan It's not possible to find a solution with COMMITTING GENOCIDE? Aren't "kill 'em all" and genocide the same thing? Do you understand the irony of saying "kill 'em all" while criticizing "them" for having "all the tolerance of Nazi Germany."?
Kill all the terrorists and bad guys, not all Iraqis, Arabs, or Middle Easterners. Way to put words in someone else's mouth. Sorry to dash your hopes, but conservatives don't goose-step around with swastikas on.
Originally posted by TheBucsFanDo you really think you can kill every America hater? And even if you could, don't you think that act itself would create more America haters, thereby defeating its own purpose? We have names for people with the "agree with me or die" attitude: we call them BRUTAL DICTATORS AND TYRANTS.
So what's your name for terrorists who fight the good guys who knocked out one of your BRUTAL DICTATORS AND TYRANTS, and are trying to save a nation? Oh, right...we don't have the right to defend ourselves against those types. It might be un-PC.
Man, you sure wanna paint me as somebody who can't wait to kill everybody in the Middle East what ain't white. Sorry, but the Klan's robes don't fit over my cheesehead.
I'm talking about those insurgents openly opposing US troops with violence. If you're shooting at Americans, or burning their bodies and dragging 'em through the streets, YOU'RE DEAD. You've earned that bullet between your eyes.
There happen to be plenty of Iraqis who don't hate the coalition, who like what it's done so far for improving the Iraqi infrastructure, and paving a way for a return from Saddam-dom to civilization. I've heard so from the mouths of troops who've returned from Iraq. But a lot of these folks are in hiding or keeping quiet, so that the vocal al-Sadr minority, along with the rest of those fighting the new Iraqi police, government, and coalition authorities, don't kill them on the spot.
When you see evil, you fight it...or you're doing evil by turning tail a'la Chamberlain and walking away, letting it do what it will. Love him or hate him, Pres. Bush and our troops in Iraq will get the job done. Give 'em more resources, more men and an open hand, says I. We'll win this thing yet.
And as for "go back to the title of this thread"...yeah. It's about Muslim radicals threatening the peace, security, and religious freedom of the UK, and joining with Al-Qaeda to begin terrorist operations. Reality check...isn't that treason? WIPE THOSE GUYS OUT. IT'S F*CKING WAR.
You MIGHT have had a good point in there some where if we were actually going after the people who attacked this country in 2001...
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