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#1 Posted on 22.4.04 1408.15
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ nfl/news/story?id=1787651

Here is an article on the Supplemental Draft rules

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6452668



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#2 Posted on 22.4.04 1422.02
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He starteld fumbling away with the police report and his academics, not necessarily this case.

I guess he's heading North of the Border now to be the next Rocket Ismail, or something.
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#3 Posted on 23.4.04 0455.26
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at 245 pounds and running extra slow? I doubt it.

Now, THIS, is an example of a guy getting exactly what he deserves (which is nothing in this case).
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#4 Posted on 23.4.04 1156.20
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Yep. Bye, bye, jackass.

So is there any way Mike Williams is getting his eligibility back for next season?
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#5 Posted on 23.4.04 1412.56
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Probably not. If he wants to go back to the NCAA there is a long process to follow. Chances are he will end up in the supplemental draft which would be very interesting. At what point do you give up a first round pick for him? If I were the Eagles, definitely. But I know he will not fall that far.
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#6 Posted on 23.4.04 1416.48
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The Ravens would certaily use a 1st rounder on Williams...Clarett, on the other hand, might last until the 5th round of a supplemental draft.
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#7 Posted on 23.4.04 1444.34
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There is a definite intrigue to the thought that Williams would be in the supplemental draft, since the order of picks is chosen at random. What if, say, the Cardinals, who already have Anquan Boldin and are likely to take Larry Fitzgerald at #3, got to choose Williams? Or the Raiders, who supposedly LOVE Roy Williams, would they take Mike Williams if they had a chance? Or the Seahawks, since Mike Williams would never fall down to where the 'Hawks draft?
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#8 Posted on 23.4.04 1455.53
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    There is a definite intrigue to the thought that Williams would be in the supplemental draft, since the order of picks is chosen at random.
Not true anymore:

Nowadays it still works the same way, but instead of pulling names out of a hat, the NFL uses the previous year's draft order.- says the NFL

Arizona would still get a shot at Williams at # 3, but you would have to think San Diego would take him.
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#9 Posted on 23.4.04 1456.36
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I saw that, so I started looking for this year's draft order, and found this (profootballweekly.com):


    Because Clarett and Williams both hired agents, they automatically have lost their NCAA eligibility and will not be allowed to participate in college athletics again. They will now likely be entered into the supplemental draft, which is held in early July.

    The supplemental draft order is based on three separate lotteries — one for the 13 teams who finished with six or fewer wins, one for the seven non-playoff teams with more than six wins and a final lottery for the 12 playoff teams. Each team receives a proportionate number of tokens based on their position in the 2004 regular draft (San Diego has 32, Oakland 31, Arizona 30, all the way down to the Patriots with one).

    A private drawing is held by the NFL to determine how the first 13 picks shake out. Then the next drawing is conducted for the non-playoff teams, and lastly the playoff teams. Once the order is decided, each team has 10 minutes to submit its draft selections. It submits picks by e-mail without knowing of other clubs’ intentions. If five teams submit picks for Mike Williams in the first round, the team with the best draft position gets the pick. In exchange, it must give up its first-round pick in next year’s draft. If it does not have a first-round pick in 2005, it cannot submit a first-round selection for a player.


And now I'm all confused.

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#10 Posted on 23.4.04 1457.40
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the ruling...but will they even be eligible for the supplemental draft. I thought the deal was they were ineligible to play in the NFL cause they haven't been out of high school long enough. Or is the final ruling still up in the air?
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#11 Posted on 23.4.04 1517.54
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    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding the ruling...but will they even be eligible for the supplemental draft. I thought the deal was they were ineligible to play in the NFL cause they haven't been out of high school long enough. Or is the final ruling still up in the air?


The appeals court didn't "overturn" the decision. They placed a stay on it so it would be reversed until the case can properly be heard again. They can still rule in Clarett(and Williams') favor. Then they'd be in the Supplimental Draft.

Also- I'd say Williams shot of a waiver is much greater, since he hired an agent to walk through an open door, he didn't hire one to try to pry open the door.
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#12 Posted on 23.4.04 1620.31
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Salami: The NFL can make exceptions to the rule as long as the NFLPA agrees to the exception. So if the courts rule in favor of the NFL they can agree to hold a supplemental draft for both players.

Here comes the question: If you are a bad team and expect to be bad in the coming year (Arizona, San Diego, Giants, Oakland) do you risk giving up a potential top 5 or 10 pick in the coming year ot grab Williams? If I drafted in the teens and thought that I was a playoff contender then yes. If I was a playoff team then the answer is a resounding YES.

Battlezone: When in doubt go with what is on nfl.com.

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#13 Posted on 27.4.04 1012.34
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    He starteld fumbling away with the police report and his academics, not necessarily this case.

    I guess he's heading North of the Border now to be the next Rocket Ismail, or something.


We don't want him, thanks.
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