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The 7 - Hockey - Jaques Martin Fired
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#1 Posted on 22.4.04 1205.51
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The look on Muckler's face in game 7 was a dead giveaway that this would happen. I woulnd't count on Lalime being around much longer, either. It seems like the new owner of the Sens wants results, eh?

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#2 Posted on 22.4.04 1212.33
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Martin is a great coach but he's probably not the best fit to take Ottawa to the next level. He won't be out of work long and he'll do really well with his next team.

I don't blame Martin too much because the coach can only do so much. Everyone and their mother knew Ottawa needed more grit and Muckler got Peter Bondra. Everyone knew Ottawa needed some insurance in net and Muckler did nothing. They could've at least gone after a veteran backup.

Lalime needs to get out of town too for his own sake. He needs a clean slate so he can get back to playing his game and not worrying about being the goat in Ottawa. He's a really good goalie but it was clear by those two goals that he's got major confidence issues.
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#3 Posted on 22.4.04 1214.01
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MEH martin is a good coash he wont have trouble finding a new job (like in FLA), his done a good job with sens youth back in a day now he could do the same in FLA (but i really dont think he will get the axe).
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#4 Posted on 22.4.04 1239.18
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    Originally posted by Planavoy
    MEH martin is a good coash he wont have trouble finding a new job (like in FLA), his done a good job with sens youth back in a day now he could do the same in FLA (but i really dont think he will get the axe).


I heard the Phoenix Coyotes and St. Louis Blues were VERY interested in him anyway.

Having met Martin once, it's too bad, because he's a nice guy and all, but the franchise needs a different direction. Plus, as fuelinjected said anyway, he won't have a problem finding a new place to work.
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#5 Posted on 22.4.04 1252.18
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St Louis has a coach under contract for next season. THey dont need another coach, they need a rebuilding.
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#6 Posted on 22.4.04 1257.49
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I realize they go through coaches like I go through a 12-pack of soda, but could he go to the Devils perhaps, who need a coach all of the sudden?

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#7 Posted on 22.4.04 1306.47
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    St Louis has a coach under contract for next season. THey dont need another coach, they need a rebuilding.


The St. Louis one was some rumour I heard from a co-worker, so I stand corrected. The Phoenix one I keep hearing though...
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#8 Posted on 22.4.04 1346.54
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At some point though, somebody has to take the fall for never getting the Sens to the Finals. And Martin was that guy...
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#9 Posted on 22.4.04 1427.22
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Agree with Grimis. He has had many many chances, and just could never get a good team over the hump...

Who would be good in Ottawa now???

Martin will get another job if he wants one...

I agree that he would look good behind the Florida bench. No way he could complain about his goalie there.
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#10 Posted on 22.4.04 1444.31
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    Originally posted by haz
    Agree with Grimis. He has had many many chances, and just could never get a good team over the hump...

    Who would be good in Ottawa now???

    Martin will get another job if he wants one...

    I agree that he would look good behind the Florida bench. No way he could complain about his goalie there.


Besides, what harm is there in having one more French-Canadian in Broward County? :-P
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#11 Posted on 22.4.04 1701.46
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Unfortunate, cause it certainly wasn't his Martin's fault Lalime decided to start really sucking in Game 7.

Martin was named coach of the Sens when I first moved to Ottawa, so he's really the only coach of the team I have known. Plus, he was the coach of the Algonquin College men's hockey team just before I started going there.

And I agree with MARTYEWR...he was a super nice guy the time I got to meet him.
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#12 Posted on 22.4.04 2053.10
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Having packed his groceries when I was a youngster I can tell ya he tips well....

It's bitter sweet to see him go. A great "X and O's" guy, but shows no emotion. Sometimes change is what's needed to get where they are going....and hopefully Ottawa can find someone as capable or better to replace him.

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#13 Posted on 22.4.04 2331.18
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He needs to get into the Western Conference to escape the Leafs or else he'll end up in an institution.

Or, even better, he could coach the Leafs. MLSE won't fire Dinosaur Quinn, unfortunately, but it's a nice pipe dream.
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#14 Posted on 23.4.04 1419.36
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    Originally posted by Socks
    It's bitter sweet to see him go. A great "X and O's" guy, but shows no emotion. Sometimes change is what's needed to get where they are going....and hopefully Ottawa can find someone as capable or better to replace him.


Agree totally with this statement. Seems like a great X & O's guys, but his pressence never impressed me. After they lost Game 2 & 3(at home). He seemed so calm giving the old "bounces didn't go our way" speech... I thought geez dude make bounces go your way, don't sit back and chat about playing a good game but "what can you do" attitude. Maybe I'm just used to see bitter old hardass Pat Quinn saying how his team was "d*cking around" like he did yesterday that seeing such a laid back coach seems strange.
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#15 Posted on 23.4.04 1629.31
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Jacques Martin is a good coach depending on what your goal is. I'll bet he could do great things in Phoenix, because relative expectations are much lower. Get a competitive team that can win a round in the playoffs and Coyote fans would be happy. Sens fans want a Cup and they want it now. Martin took that team as far as he was going to last year, so while this firing doesn't mean that Martin is a bad coach he's not the guy that's going to win now in Ottawa with that team.

Alfredsson should be next on the way out, though. I'd be willing to led Lalime slide for now if I'm a Sens fan, because he was quite strong in the playoffs the last couple of years. It could just be that he had a bad season. Alfredsson, though, is consistently useless in the playoffs. He's not much of a captain, he can't score when it counts, he plays no defense, and from watching that series it looked like the Leafs are in his head most of all. Guys like Hossan, Havlat, Redden, and Chara are solid, but the Alfredssons and Radek Bonks of the world need to be shown the door. They will never win in Ottawa as long as the Toronto Maple Leafs are lined up at the other side of centre.
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#16 Posted on 24.4.04 1908.45
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I agree almost 100% with what you are saying, BVM, but what happened to Redden against the Leafs? He was mostly invisible. Some games I wasn't even sure if he was playing.
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