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#1 Posted on 9.4.04 1641.17
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From the ROH website (rohwrestling.com)

"Unfortunately, ROH and TNA officials have reached an impasse in negotiations. TNA talent has been pulled from upcoming ROH shows. Communication will remain open between TNA and ROH and hopefully this issue can be resolved down the line."

This fucking sucks. I've been waiting for months for their Apr. 24 show in Chicago, mostly for the Chris Daniels/AJ Styles matchup. And now this shit happens, because they simply can't seem to come out and say "no, we no longer have an alleged pedophile running the company." Well you know what, screw them. I wanted to give these guys a chance after the whole RF scandal came to light, and really wanted to believe them when they said that he had nothing more to do with the company. But when you're losing some of your most important guys because no one seems willing to sign a document stating Feinstein is gone, I can't trust them as far as I could throw the lot of them. I know they won't, but they are going to piss off a lot of people if they don't offer refunds on tickets bought for this show. I can say right now though I will not be buying any more ROH product from here on out.
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#2 Posted on 9.4.04 1654.30
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    Originally posted by spf2119
    But when you're losing some of your most important guys because no one seems willing to sign a document stating Feinstein is gone
THAT'S what all this is about? I thought it was TNA wanting their workers to sign exclusive "You cant work for any other companies on the side" contracts. Do I have my stories mixed up?
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#3 Posted on 9.4.04 1656.55
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It was initally thought to be a "TNA doesn't want to guys going to ROH", but TNA's said they only wanted ROH to sign something saying Rob Hoffman wasn't involved to avoid spill over damage if/when he shows up again.

ROH apparently has not or will not sign something along those lines, leaving everyone to make their own assumptions.
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#4 Posted on 9.4.04 1657.15
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by spf2119
      But when you're losing some of your most important guys because no one seems willing to sign a document stating Feinstein is gone
    THAT'S what all this is about? I thought it was TNA wanting their workers to sign exclusive "You cant work for any other companies on the side" contracts. Do I have my stories mixed up?


The Observer website (liveaudiowrestling.com) says the following:

Both TNA and ROH have confirmed that none of the TNA contracted talent, which would include A.J. Styles, Christopher Daniels, Jerry Lynn, Traci, Raven and Chris Sabin, would be allowed to appear for upcoming ROH dates. This apparently includes the upcoming Chicago and St. Paul dates.

The impasse is that when Gabe Sapolsky went to the TNA show on 3/31, he didn't sign a legal document to assure TNA that Rob Feinstein was not with the company. At the time, he had said Doug Gentry was the person to go to and sign the document and it was expected that would be taken care of. As of today, nobody in an ownership role of ROH had signed the document, causing TNA to make the call.
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#5 Posted on 9.4.04 1725.45
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Hard to blame TNA for taking this stance. The last thing they need is for something to happen in the Feinstein story and have that cost them their supposed TV deal with Fox Sports Net. I doubt that'd be the type of hair FSN would wanna split if such an association came to light. In a case like this you've gotta protect your interests.

It certainly does seem suspicious that ROH is dragging their feet on this issue. If it were me I'd be looking for any chance I had to distance myself from someone in Feinstein's situation.
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#6 Posted on 9.4.04 1746.34
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What exactly makes them TNA workers? I thought all of those workers were all pretty much indy workers but TNA was their main federation because it actually had some recognition. So they have contracts with TNA? Were they basically allowed to take any other shows as long as TNA was their first priority? Or did they have to get permission from TNA to do any other shows?
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#7 Posted on 9.4.04 1751.49
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    What exactly makes them TNA workers?



    ...



    ...So they have contracts with TNA?


There's really no "but" to that second part.
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#8 Posted on 9.4.04 1923.35
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    It was initally thought to be a "TNA doesn't want to guys going to ROH", but TNA's said they only wanted ROH to sign something saying Rob Hoffman wasn't involved to avoid spill over damage if/when he shows up again.


Which would be interesting enough, since Rob Hoffman never had anything to do with RoH. I wonder how he'd feel to be mistaken for Feinstein?
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#9 Posted on 9.4.04 2001.40
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    Originally posted by spf2119
    I've been waiting for months for their Apr. 24 show in Chicago


HEY ME TOO! This is pretty lame. That show has really collapsed from when we got tickets to see Heenan and Cornette managing, to when Heenan pulled out, to Cornette pulling out, to Jerry Lynn replacing them, to now all the TNA talent being off the show. BUT I'LL STILL SEE JUSTIN CREDIBLE!

I don't necessarily blame TNA, but they really should've allowed the guys to fulfill their prior commitments for these shows. If only for ME.
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#10 Posted on 9.4.04 2301.00
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How big a venue is the Chicago show? Is it sold out? Does ROH have any exclusive talent or is all free agent/indy type guys?
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#11 Posted on 9.4.04 2328.28
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What is the ROH Pure Wrestling Title and what are the rules?
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#12 Posted on 10.4.04 1207.08
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Meltz is saying now...

The impasse is that ROH investor Cary Silkin was advised by his attorney not to sign an agreement that would hold him personaly financially responsible for any problems TNA might have resulting from the sides working together. TNA responded by pulling all its contracted talent from ROH.

But both sides are saying they hope they can work something out. Yeah. Me too. The whole Boston card just got changed up on account of this, and I'm such a Daniels mark, I hate to think I won't get to see him live.
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