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#21 Posted on 7.4.04 1249.19
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I just hate that in the 21st century, nobody can make a decent arguemnt FOR thier position. All the talking heads can do is say over and over what is wrong with the other side. Tell me why YOU are right, and convince me, then, it wont MATTER what the other side is saying or doing.
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#22 Posted on 7.4.04 1255.18
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    As a liberal, this offends me. Discuss issues and quit mudslinging. If they feel the liberal philosophy is correct, expound on that. Personal attacks from both sides are offensive. Rush and Hannity bother me because they also tend towards personal vitriol, although Hannity is less vitriolic than Rush.

    Can we please compare and contrast actual stands on issues? Probably not.


I so agree. I'm probably on the other end of the political spectrum but I'll agree that Rush et al is too often offensive rather than persuasive. As an interesting aside on the potential success of Air America, Tim Noah (http://slate.msn.com/id/2098387/) posted an interesting piece on the new political segregation in America that makes me wonder about the viability of Air America as a national network rather than as an urban network.

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#23 Posted on 7.4.04 1414.59
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As a liberal, I doubt it would succeed outside the major cities. The heartland may be progressive at times but it isn't liberal. Plus, these people aren't personalities that most of America cares about or can warm up to.
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#24 Posted on 7.4.04 1606.48
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    As a liberal, I doubt it would succeed outside the major cities. The heartland may be progressive at times but it isn't liberal. Plus, these people aren't personalities that most of America cares about or can warm up to.


Good point. Al Franken and Janeane Garafalo will go over like gangbusters out here in the big city, but they won't find any support in rural lands like Nebraska. The best thing for Air America to do would be to stay within the parameters of the big city.
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#25 Posted on 7.4.04 1641.58
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I think if everyone wants to have their point of view and they can get a radio show out of it, thats fine. But one problem that gets me going is Al Franken. OK you beat FOX News but I really think he is pushing it with his "The O'Franken Factor" and "Zero Spin Zone". We get it, you don't like FOX News and Bill O'Reilly but your not really going to be taken seriously when you cannot name your program without making fun of someone.
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#26 Posted on 7.4.04 1825.21
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    Originally posted by XPacArmy
    I think if everyone wants to have their point of view and they can get a radio show out of it, thats fine. But one problem that gets me going is Al Franken. OK you beat FOX News but I really think he is pushing it with his "The O'Franken Factor" and "Zero Spin Zone". We get it, you don't like FOX News and Bill O'Reilly but your not really going to be taken seriously when you cannot name your program without making fun of someone.


He's explained that several times - he wants Bill O'Reilly's fragile ego to take a hit and cause him to file another pointless lawsuit, therefore giving Air America Radio more free advertising.

I've listened to it online a few times. Al Franken's show is okay - even I think he grates after a while. I did enjoy Jeneane Garafalo's show when I listened to it. I have a huge crush on her (and her guests were Bill Maher and Dave Chapelle), so both those things probably helped.

Still, if this country's divided right down the middle politically - and it is, no matter what either side will tell you - there's no reason to believe that right-wing blowhards can be a huge success on the radio and their liberal counterparts are doomed for failure.
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#27 Posted on 7.4.04 2137.20
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    there's no reason to believe that right-wing blowhards can be a huge success on the radio and their liberal counterparts are doomed for failure.



Except they are trying to create an audience out of thin air. There are a number of hard-core listeners to the Limberger and such shows that will never turn from their talk station to another.

So, basically, a station will either have to flip from a right-wing format to left-wing, losing 99% of it's listenership and building from scratch...OR another station in the market will have to flip a music format and BECOME a talk station, hoping to carry over some of it's listeners, who will be angry at losing a talk station. The pie is only so big....Air America will have to work on getting NON-radio listeners to the radio and the ratings books.
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#28 Posted on 8.4.04 0837.24
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They will more likely fail because they don't understand the radio business and more impotantly, you must be appealing and entertaining to the masses. Rush became Rush becasue when he started he was entertaining as hell regardless of you politics. It wasn't just becasue he was conservative.
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#29 Posted on 8.4.04 1008.17
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    Originally posted by Jobberman
    Not only does Rogers get 1 million a year, he also get summers off to hang in Amsterdam.



Which after thinking about it may be the best reason to not put him on board...only because the world may not quite be ready for the nationally syndicated Jorge Rodriguez Show that would concievably be there for a month :P
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#30 Posted on 8.4.04 1428.10
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I tune in AM talk radio on my way home from work sometimes, just for the laughs; between Hannity, O'Reilly and Bob Grant, it's a non-stop unintentional-humor cavalcade more often than not.

About the only host I've heard recently that's struck me as not being blatantly partisan is Lionel, who's got his own syndicated late show on WOR and guest-hosts for O'Reilly on occasion. He's funny, he throws out intelligent and rational opinions, he holds virtually nothing sacred, and he holds his own well against the typical Clinton-causes-cancer callers on WOR. Anyone else heard his schtick?


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#31 Posted on 8.4.04 1444.04
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vsp-

With all due respect, why is it that when someone presents a Liberal slant (i.e. Lionel, NPR, Jay Diamond), the Liberals view them as "bi-partisan", but when someone presents with a Conservative slant they are labeled "Right-wingers"?

I've heard Lionel (& other Left-wing hosts) in NY, & they are no different than their Right-wing counterparts, with the exception that the Conservatives have found success with the political talk radio format...
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#32 Posted on 8.4.04 1925.30
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    Originally posted by Von Maestro
    With all due respect, why is it that when someone presents a Liberal slant (i.e. Lionel, NPR, Jay Diamond), the Liberals view them as "bi-partisan", but when someone presents with a Conservative slant they are labeled "Right-wingers"?


For the same reason that many conservatives call Fox News "fair and balanced" with a straight face, but are quick to label 95% of the rest of the media as being liberal-biased.

It's like how when YOU fart, it's not so bad (while people around you are dying), but when someone else farts, you're gagging -- your own brand always seems more "normal."

From what I've heard of Lionel, he's not nearly as dramatic a "liberal" as, well, Al Franken & Co. He leans to the left when compared to the main talk block on the station I've heard him on (which is O'Reilly, Bob Grant, Michael Savage), but then again, anyone even _vaguely_ critical of the right is to the left of that group. He seems more interested in keeping it lively than in scoring partisan points, which stands out like a sore thumb compared to Hannity et al.

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#33 Posted on 9.4.04 0143.05
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    Originally posted by vsp
    I tune in AM talk radio on my way home from work sometimes, just for the laughs; between Hannity, O'Reilly and Bob Grant, it's a non-stop unintentional-humor cavalcade more often than not.

    About the only host I've heard recently that's struck me as not being blatantly partisan is Lionel, who's got his own syndicated late show on WOR and guest-hosts for O'Reilly on occasion. He's funny, he throws out intelligent and rational opinions, he holds virtually nothing sacred, and he holds his own well against the typical Clinton-causes-cancer callers on WOR. Anyone else heard his schtick?





My father listens to tons of talk radio, and the only person I've heard that doesn't piss me off beyond belief is Lionel. In fact, he's a thoroughly decent and all-right guy, for the reasons you mentioned.
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#34 Posted on 13.4.04 0923.55
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#35 Posted on 13.4.04 1200.17
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y-o-u-'-r-e, not y-o-u-r

Also, don't flame people in y-o-u-r first post.
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