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#1 Posted on 31.3.04 1732.20
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Just a reminder for those (interested) who may have forgotten about or missed it, but the new highly-liberal radio program (Air America Radio) went live today.

I'm not sure how hot it's gonna be because they have some people who, albeit funny, aren't tried and true radio personalities, but it's something new and it's got potential. Al Franken was a little hit and miss, but I thought Randi Rhodes (sp?) was pretty dope. Looking forward to Chuck D. as well.
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#2 Posted on 31.3.04 1804.36
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    Originally posted by Joseph Ryder
    Just a reminder for those (interested) who may have forgotten about or missed it, but the new highly-liberal radio program (Air America Radio) went live today.

    I'm not sure how hot it's gonna be because they have some people who, albeit funny, aren't tried and true radio personalities, but it's something new and it's got potential. Al Franken was a little hit and miss, but I thought Randi Rhodes (sp?) was pretty dope. Looking forward to Chuck D. as well.
Is the website down because they're that popular, or planned that poorly? (Or is that the right URL? I'll check later)
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#3 Posted on 31.3.04 1815.08
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They should take a lesson from Conservative Radio - Don't rely on the celebs. The Left is way too starstruck. Keep Al Franken, Jeannine Garafalo, et al for a few months as a hook, and then drop them like Dick Cheney as a running mate. Chuck D can stay.

Were Rush, Michael Wiener, Sean Hannity, et al famous before they started their program? No, they became famous from the program. Did the right rely - in the least bit - on celebs to get their propaganda machine going (I mean other than as a fundraising source)? No. Take a lesson Lefties.
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#4 Posted on 31.3.04 1837.34
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Hannity was famous before he was syndicated, but not when he went on it Atlanta and then New York.

In a related stroy, Al Gore an co. have purchased NesWorld International, and will twist it to be a liberal outlet.

Incidentally, AirAmerica will likely fail. They are trying to create a business where one was really not desired. Rush, Hannity were extremely popular when they were syndicated. Not out of the box syndication.
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#5 Posted on 31.3.04 1845.03
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Is the website down because they're that popular, or planned that poorly? (Or is that the right URL? I'll check later)


I think a little of both. The site's been up and down all day. It's been up each time I've checked, but I've also heard people are having problems.

TRY IT NOW!! It's in Real format.

Here's a link to AM 620 based out of Portland that's been fairly reliable by all accounts I've read (Windows Media). They're not on the same schedule as the official stream (I think they've got Rhodes on now when her show is 3-7 pm, EST), but...it works.

And since I mentioned it, I think this is a fairly accurate list of their lineup (but don't hold me to it):

Lineup (all times eastern)
Morning Sedition - 6-9am
Unfiltered - 9am-Noon
O'Franken Factor - Noon-3pm
Randi Rhodes - 3-7pm
So What Else is News? - 7-8pm
Majority Report - 8-11pm

Word is super-blogger Atrios will be on the Majority Report at around 9 pm, EST. And Dave Chapelle too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Dave Chapelle announcement

(edited by Joseph Ryder on 31.3.04 1710)
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#6 Posted on 1.4.04 1307.28
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Small quibble: Who listens to a show called "Morning Sedition?"

A.) Use of the word "sedition" probably doesn't lure in your average independent voter.

B.) It's a play on "Morning Edition," which has a 95% liberal audience anyway.

Are they trying to lure people away from NPR to a more unabashed liberal radio? Seems like preaching to the choir.
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#7 Posted on 3.4.04 1118.11
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It's nice to see some balance on the radio waves, but I don't think it's going to work. The mentality of the left is so different then the right. I don't think liberals sit around a media outlet, liberals have never been as intense in their politics as the rightwingers are... Most leftist friends I know will talk politics as a casual practice, might get more serious when something gets really out of control from the conservatives but I must say rightwing friends are consumed by it all the time, no breaks LoL.

Which is why I think a show like Rush and the dozens of others Rightwing shows do so well. Rightwingers love to be preached to, they can listen to a 3 hour sermon and be ready to listen to it again the next day... I also think these rightwing talkshow hosts love the "us vs. them" which is pretty common place in conservative thinking and it sells well on radio/TV shows as you gain passionate followers.
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#8 Posted on 3.4.04 1617.39
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"The O'Frankin Factor", "Zero Spin Zone", "Morning Sedation", oh so unfunny parodies of already established programs. To me that's saying, hey we can't do it better than you, so we will just make fun of you. I don't really see that kind of mudslinging advancing any cause, people will listen short-term cause of the celebs and the novelty, but to have a lasting impact on a presumably educated audience, I think you need to place a little more thought and a lot less juvenile word play into the mix.

Besides I loath syndication, best bet with talk radio is that dying breed, local programming, and here in Akron we are fourunate to actully have good local talk station WNIR. Neither Rush Limbaugh or Al Frankin aren't really in touch with whats going on outside of cities they broadcast from. Just very generic stuff from the lot of them.



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#9 Posted on 3.4.04 2141.31
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Speaking as a Conservative Republican, my favorite talk radio host is liberal, Phil Hendrie, whom's show is syndicated. I think Hendrie has said before that Air America radio is a bad idea since its a "liberal only" network. Phil Hendrie also said it best about celebrities and political discourse, "They should just say, "I'm a dumbass and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.'".

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#10 Posted on 6.4.04 1442.00
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Incidentally, even the Liberals are turning against Air America...
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#11 Posted on 6.4.04 1511.02
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After checking your link, I think you made a typo. It should read:

"Incidentally, even a Liberal is turning against Air America..."

And it doesn't sound like he was ever turned TOWARDS the station anyway, but why quibble over tiny details?
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#12 Posted on 6.4.04 1512.13
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Both Air America and the conservative shows (Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity) do nothing but make me mad and further cement my status as a confused voter. I haven't found one show out there (radio or TV) that presents well-thought-out rational arguments. The mediums of TV and radio can provide amazing forums for intelligent debating from both sides (or, better yet, dozens of sides), but instead we get blowhards on both sides spouting half-truths, personal attacks, and book plugs.
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#13 Posted on 6.4.04 1516.40
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Although I wouldn't classify Phil Henrie one way or the other politically...that's not what his show's really about. Unless he can get a good bit out of it, then it's a different story.

As far as Randi Rhodes goes, growing up in South Florida, where she cut her teeth in radio for seemingly since FDR's fireside chats, the feeling has always been with her: not funny, not bright, and not good. They went to the right market, but picked up the wrong host...if they REALLY wanted to shake stuff up, they would have money-whipped Neil Rogers into going on board.

Buuuuuut, according to the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel:

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In spite of his popularity and politics, Rogers was not approached by Air America. He wouldn't have been interested in any case. "I think it would be a death wish. Besides, how much were they going to pay me?" It would be hard to imagine a start-up business coming up with anything close to the $1 million a year Rogers reportedly makes.>>

It's probably better this way anyhow.

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#14 Posted on 7.4.04 0730.53
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I have yet to listen to this station, but a paragraph from this Time article (Time Magazine) told me all I need to know.

    Originally posted by Time Magazine
    At times, the talk can get rawer. (Marc) Maron speculated that Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and allowed them to occur to rally the country behind him. Maron also came close to equating born-again Christianity with fascism. When a caller urged him to show a little sensitivity, Maron replied, "Maybe I should be more sympathetic to people with organized delusions."


That's it...screw you guys, I'm going home. Or at least back to Rush.
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#15 Posted on 7.4.04 0811.25
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But remember, these are the diversity people!
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#16 Posted on 7.4.04 0826.35
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As a liberal, this offends me. Discuss issues and quit mudslinging. If they feel the liberal philosophy is correct, expound on that. Personal attacks from both sides are offensive. Rush and Hannity bother me because they also tend towards personal vitriol, although Hannity is less vitriolic than Rush.

Can we please compare and contrast actual stands on issues? Probably not.
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#17 Posted on 7.4.04 0833.39
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    Although I wouldn't classify Phil Henrie one way or the other politically...that's not what his show's really about. Unless he can get a good bit out of it, then it's a different story.

    As far as Randi Rhodes goes, growing up in South Florida, where she cut her teeth in radio for seemingly since FDR's fireside chats, the feeling has always been with her: not funny, not bright, and not good. They went to the right market, but picked up the wrong host...if they REALLY wanted to shake stuff up, they would have money-whipped Neil Rogers into going on board.

    Buuuuuut, according to the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel:

    <
    In spite of his popularity and politics, Rogers was not approached by Air America. He wouldn't have been interested in any case. "I think it would be a death wish. Besides, how much were they going to pay me?" It would be hard to imagine a start-up business coming up with anything close to the $1 million a year Rogers reportedly makes.>>

    It's probably better this way anyhow.




Not only does Rogers get 1 million a year, he also get summers off to hang in Amsterdam.

Also, I don't think a liberal radio station can air a guy who routinely calls the University of Miami Hurricanes, the Hurri-COONS, and still retain their moral indignation at the slightest suggestion of a racial epithet the right might say.
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#18 Posted on 7.4.04 1030.55
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#19 Posted on 7.4.04 1052.01
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    As a liberal, this offends me. Discuss issues and quit mudslinging. If they feel the liberal philosophy is correct, expound on that. Personal attacks from both sides are offensive. Rush and Hannity bother me because they also tend towards personal vitriol, although Hannity is less vitriolic than Rush.

    Can we please compare and contrast actual stands on issues? Probably not.


I think that of the hosts I have heard, Hugh Hewitt and Bill Bennett do this best, Doc. They have both sides on. Hugh roots for the Conservatives, but gives the other side a lot of time and leash to explain and deliniate their position. Bennett is even more open to dialog. Both fun shows - at least for me.

I'm not a Rush or Sean fan. I occasionally do listen to a guy who is filled will all of the mudslinging - Michael Medved, but for other reasons (I enjoy his callers).
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#20 Posted on 7.4.04 1207.57
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    Originally posted by AWArulz
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      As a liberal, this offends me. Discuss issues and quit mudslinging. If they feel the liberal philosophy is correct, expound on that. Personal attacks from both sides are offensive. Rush and Hannity bother me because they also tend towards personal vitriol, although Hannity is less vitriolic than Rush.

      Can we please compare and contrast actual stands on issues? Probably not.


    I think that of the hosts I have heard, Hugh Hewitt and Bill Bennett do this best, Doc. They have both sides on. Hugh roots for the Conservatives, but gives the other side a lot of time and leash to explain and deliniate their position. Bennett is even more open to dialog. Both fun shows - at least for me.

    I'm not a Rush or Sean fan. I occasionally do listen to a guy who is filled will all of the mudslinging - Michael Medved, but for other reasons (I enjoy his callers).



AWA, our options are basically Rush and Hannity. I actually used to enjoy Rush and Hannity who I find to be Rush light but usually inoffensive. That's why I usually listen to ESPN.

If it were legal, not sure, it would be easier on all of us to have the Dem network and the Republican because IMO, that's all it really is anyway. Talk radio used to be cutting edge and exciting but now is basically potty humor or attck dogs. That and the goofy local how to stuff.
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