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ThreepMe
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#1 Posted on 29.3.04 1540.12
Reposted on: 29.3.11 1547.27
I need a comprehensive list of all the pros and cons of the Patriot Act.

What does this provide for us in the terms of safety?

What does it take away from us in the terms of freedoms?

Need it for a bit of research and my fellow political wieners have always been my best resource for info like this. I would do the research myself, but I'm a one cloud brain storm and I need more clouds to get the info I need in the time I need it in.

Thanks in advance.
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MoeGates
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#2 Posted on 29.3.04 2241.47
Reposted on: 29.3.11 2241.52
Cons: The Department of Homeland Security reads your posts on the Wienerboard.

Don't believe me? Click on my name at the left to get to my profile. Then click on "referrals."

Pretty freaky, no? Anyone else have ol' Tom Ridge checking up on them?

(edited by MoeGates on 29.3.04 2342)
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#3 Posted on 29.3.04 2258.27
Reposted on: 29.3.11 2259.01
I flipped through a bunch of people that post in Politics referrals Moe (left and right), and only your's came back with that. Maybe in some post you put the homeland security website inside the post, thus causing you to get that hit. Either that, or Tom and Co. are helping Z build up the view count.
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#4 Posted on 30.3.04 0140.34
Reposted on: 30.3.11 0143.33
    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Cons: The Department of Homeland Security reads your posts on the Wienerboard.

    Don't believe me? Click on my name at the left to get to my profile. Then click on "referrals."
I checked both hits - both from the same IP. The later of the two is one of a series of hits...

From our logs...

211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:17:41 -0800] "GET /index.php HTTP/1.1" 200 152
86 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:17:53 -0800] "GET /profile.php HTTP/1.1" 200 9
839 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:18:18 -0800] "GET /activeusers.php HTTP/1.1" 2
00 52682 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:18:36 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=21 HTTP/1.1"
200 9825 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:18:52 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=208 HTTP/1.1
" 200 9581 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:18:59 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=304 HTTP/1.1
" 200 9515 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:19:26 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=303 HTTP/1.1
" 200 9605 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:19:31 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=161 HTTP/1.1
" 200 9929 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98"
211.152.14.91 - - [22/Mar/2004:01:19:42 -0800] "GET /profile.php/id=1533 HTTP/1.
1" 200 9169 "http://www.dhs.gov" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98
"

211.152.14.91 is in Chinese IP space. Probably just a hacker using an unsecured proxy, with a "funny" browser, automatically setting referrerals no matter what link is hit.

I think you can probably sleep okay.
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#5 Posted on 30.3.04 1307.41
Reposted on: 30.3.11 1309.35
    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Cons: The Department of Homeland Security reads your posts on the Wienerboard.

    Don't believe me? Click on my name at the left to get to my profile. Then click on "referrals."

    Pretty freaky, no? Anyone else have ol' Tom Ridge checking up on them?

    (edited by MoeGates on 29.3.04 2342)


Maybe somebody turning you in was hoping to get this:

War on Terror Megamix

(edited by Leroy on 30.3.04 1116)
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#6 Posted on 31.3.04 1524.35
Reposted on: 31.3.11 1526.26
This is strictly from a banking point of view (since that is my field) but maybe it can help at least from that angle.

http://www.bankersonline.com/ vendor_guru/pps/pps_faq.html
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#7 Posted on 31.3.04 1634.30
Reposted on: 31.3.11 1635.10
I believe old Ben said (and I paraphrase) "Those that are willing to give up a little freedom for security deserve neither."
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#8 Posted on 1.4.04 1900.59
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