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EastCoastAvenger
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#1 Posted on 11.3.02 2102.54
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Al Snow, one of my favorite wrestlers, just won the Hardcore title. He used a Snow Plow on a garbage can to win the match. J R called the move a "brainbuster". I'm calling for a hit! Now, I don't mean J.R.'s untimely death. I'm calling for something funnier. For JR's complete lack of respect towards a great professional, I believe JR deserves a field-goal kick right in his withered, useless, gray, Oklahoma Sooner balls! First guy to score this hit, come on down to Florida, and I'll pay for your beer all night as we party in Ybor city and celebrate JR's comeuppance!
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#2 Posted on 11.3.02 2113.48
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Well, you can see where JR would have trouble. When's the last time Snow got the chance to hit his finisher?
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#3 Posted on 11.3.02 2114.44
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grrrrrrrrrrrrr great move great win and he has to f*ck up the move name.... damn
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#4 Posted on 11.3.02 2114.57
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Ah, c'mon, ECA.. I love Al.. and I really like J.R. But, you have been watching wrestling for a while now.. and should be very accustomed to J.R.'s hideous calling. He can barely keep wrestlers with the same first initial apart. He's getting old.. half of his face is paralyzed and I'm sure he's trying to get things right, but he's got a lot of stuff on his mind. ;P I agree, though. J.R. should get some cue cards that people hold up for him occasionally.
And, that was a swift and sweet win for Al! Yay!
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#5 Posted on 11.3.02 2131.36
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Come on now, Wyn. As one of the guys who's read my recent opinions, did you REALLY expect me to go easy? Dammit, Gordon Solie was older, with one foot in the grave and was still a better commentator than JR has been lately. THis rant was a long time coming. He's been screwing up for too long, and I think a boot to the nads may be just the thing to knock this redneck back into line!
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#6 Posted on 11.3.02 2146.38
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[grin] I'm not saying it isn't well-deserved, ECA. I'm saying that unless you want Bland Paul Heyman to come back and do play by play (gag me with a spoon), it's something we'll have to stomach. Along with his insufferable nicknames for wrestlers; "Booger Red", "the Wolverine" and many others. Damned Okies coming onto the TV and making a mockery of the South. I'm not defending it, but I am from there originally. The fact that I grew up into a semi-normal and decently intelligent person has got to be some sort of a saving point, right?

Oh. One more thing. I'm not a guy.


Weird, huh? ;)

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#7 Posted on 11.3.02 2211.58
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Yet another reason to say "Fuck the Torch":

(3) Al Snow beat Goldust to win the WWF Hardcore Title at 1:02. In the end, Snow sprayed a fire extinguisher into Goldust's eyes, hit the brainbuster onto a trash can for the win. Anyone else guessing we'll see another title change before the show ends?...

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#8 Posted on 11.3.02 2215.11
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    Originally posted by ironcladlou
    Yet another reason to say "Fuck the Torch":

    Anyone else guessing we'll see another title change before the show ends?...




But we didn't HA! The Torch sux!!!

Ehem.

I didn't even notice JR's call. I tend to tune out the announcers when I'm watching an interesting match. Not that Snow/Goldust was "interesting" but God help me, I love Al Snow.
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#9 Posted on 11.3.02 2231.36
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Al Snow to me is like Mick Foley with a little more talent and a lot less suicidal tendencies.
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#10 Posted on 11.3.02 2320.24
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Do you any of you remember Tony Schiavone during the good WCW period? When Nitro was "Must See TV"? Well Tony was actually a good announcer. He actually told the story taking place in the ring, called the moves, gave insight. But when the product turned to crap, he turned to crap. An announcer sees everything first hand, knows what is going on backstage, they know more than anyone when the product is slipping into the "Suck Zone".

JR is an overworked wrestling fan who is seeing the WWF product go to hell. He is the biggest Smark of them all. He sees and knows better than anyone how bad things are. But he has to go on TV and act like this is the best wrestling in the world.

I cannot fault him for slipping now. The entire product is slipping. He is a man who has not had a vacation since '98 I believe. He is a man that is seeing subpar product after seeing some of the best wrestling shows ever only a few years ago.

Cut the man some slack.
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#11 Posted on 11.3.02 2329.17
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I would cut him some slack for calling the Snow Plow a Brainbuster. But he also called the Harlem Side Kick a "scissors kick," so I can't.

On the plus side, J.R. inability to remember the names of moves means we don't have to hear every dumb name the Hardy's make up for their moves. I don't care if Cole calls it "The Side Effect," if J.R. only calls it a "takedown", a takedown it is.

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#12 Posted on 11.3.02 2333.24
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I don't care how overworked JR is, Al Snow has been using the Snow Plow as his finishing move since he returned to the WWF. JR never forgot the name of the Stone Cold Stunner after Austin's absence, or the Rock Bottom during Rock's absence, or the Pedigree during Triple H's abscence, so he has absolutely no excuse for not calling the move by it's name. It's time for JR to take a permanent vacation.
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#13 Posted on 11.3.02 2335.54
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Yeah, but those guys are main eventers. Say it with me....MAIN EVENTERS. Al Snow is lower midcard at best. You don't see people running around with Al Snow t-shirts on. There is a difference there.
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#14 Posted on 11.3.02 2347.08
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The announcing today was just disjointed and weird in general. J.R. referred to Lita as "multi-orgasmic in a celestial way", took some pretty nasty shots at Booker, and just seemed in a pissy/obscene mood all around. Who knows why.
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#15 Posted on 11.3.02 2347.27
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Yeah, but those guys are main eventers. Say it with me....MAIN EVENTERS. Al Snow is lower midcard at best. You don't see people running around with Al Snow t-shirts on. There is a difference there.

I don't care. He can mis-call regular moves that are a little odd (though it's HIS job to learn them - and if he screws it up on a regular basis, shame on him) but this is Al Snow's finishing manouver. Jim Ross gets PAID to tell the viewers at home what they're seeing. If he can't be bothered to remember what a Snow Plow is, there are hundreds of hungry young announcers who are more than willing to memorize these things and call it.

I'm not taking away from Jim Ross' experience - but he has no excuse to be taking this kind of liberty with his job. Tony Schiavone lost all credibility when he stopped caring.
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#16 Posted on 12.3.02 0039.12
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Great line from ESPN's Sports Guy today, talking about Washington, DC...

That's why the sports scene provides more of a diversion here than anything -- unlike a place like Boston or Philly, where fans overreact more frequently than Tony Schiavone during a mid-1990s WCW pay-per-view.
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#17 Posted on 12.3.02 0136.10
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    Originally posted by Wyn
    Ah, c'mon, ECA.. I love Al.. and I really like J.R. But, you have been watching wrestling for a while now.. and should be very accustomed to J.R.'s hideous calling. He can barely keep wrestlers with the same first initial apart. He's getting old.. half of his face is paralyzed and I'm sure he's trying to get things right, but he's got a lot of stuff on his mind. ;P I agree, though. J.R. should get some cue cards that people hold up for him occasionally.

    And, that was a swift and sweet win for Al! Yay!



It's like the Hogan defence. If is sucks long enough it becomes nostalgia.
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#18 Posted on 12.3.02 0159.41
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Al Snow is someone who changes his finisher all the time.... damn some of those wrestlers have 4 or 5 finishers they have used in recent years.... J.R. should be able to remember a finisher that's been around as long as Snow has... it's not like Snow just popped on the scene....
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#19 Posted on 12.3.02 0813.32
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Al did spend a long time feuding over the Hardcore belt, so his finisher for quite a while was the Greco-Roman Metal Object To The Head. He's used the Snow Plow for years, however.

And as for Al Snow t-shirts, maybe if they MADE them... To this date, I have precisely two wrestling action figures, one of which I bought myself. The first one was a gift from a friend, who got me an Abdullah the Butcher figure for Christmas one year. The one I bought was Al, with Head. Don't tell me the man can't sell merchandise.
And "multi-orgasmic in a cosmic way" will be a new catchphrase around here, I'm sure...

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#20 Posted on 12.3.02 1149.57
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Bad finishing calls is nothing new for JR. A couple weeks ago during the Jazz-Mighty Molly(??) match he called Jazz's finisher a Brain Buster. It was corrected on Smackdown when Jazz was in action and did the same move. Michael Cole called it a fisherman's buster, which I believe is right. While doing a suplex, Dropping a person on his/her head while holding the person's leg is a fisherman's buster, while dropping a person on his/her head is a brain buster.

Hey at least he didn't call RVD Matt Hardy.
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