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#1 Posted on 15.3.04 0038.16
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It looks like the longest active playoffless streak in hockey is about to end, as the Flames beat the Blues tonight to drop the Flames' magic number to clinch from 10.5 to 8.5. That means, any combination of 8 1/2 Flames wins or Blues losses [a tie or overtime loss counts as half a Flames win/Blues loss] means we FINALLY get playoff hockey.

About damned time.
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#2 Posted on 15.3.04 0845.03
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That's some great news. I'll be in a corporate box in 12 days for the game against the Kings, so hopefully they clinch it that night(if not before).
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#3 Posted on 15.3.04 0954.52
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Here's hoping that the Flames catch Dallas so we can have a Canucks/Flames First Round series! That'd be a lot of fun.
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#4 Posted on 15.3.04 1300.07
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    Here's hoping that the Flames catch Dallas so we can have a Canucks/Flames First Round series! That'd be a lot of fun.


It'll be either Flames/Canucks, Flames/Sharks, Flames/Red Wings or Flames/Avalanche. All very watchable series.
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#5 Posted on 15.3.04 1537.46
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They would be good series but the Flames/Canucks have history and their games have been really good this year. There's a little bit of dislike between the two teams that would make for a great battle. Plus it gurantees that at least one Canadian team makes it to the next round in the West.

I'm just not looking forward to a Canucks/Stars series. One as a Canucks fan because the Canucks haven't played the Stars all this season. And two as a hockey fan, the games haven't been all that entertaining. And three, if Dallas does win their first round series, that would pit them against the top seed which is probably Detroit and it hurts Detroit's chances at winning the Cup.

Speaking of Detroit, they could get really screwed this year if the 8 Seed ends up being St. Louis. The Blues have the talent to put up a real tough fight in the Playoffs. I doubt they would beat the Wings but it'd be a tougher series then say Nashville or LA, who are seriously lacking in Playoff experience.
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#6 Posted on 17.3.04 1201.09
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So how does this magic number change now that the Kings are the 9th place team?
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#7 Posted on 17.3.04 1457.51
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Updated magic number(s) from CalgaryPuck.com

Again, it's the combined number of wins & losses needed for the Flames to finish ahead of that team:

Colorado [14]
San Jose [12.5]
Vancouver [11.5]
Dallas [10]
St. Louis [7.5]
Nashville [7.5]
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Los Angeles [8]
Edmonton [5.5]

And the Flames PLAY LA twice before the end of the season. Word.
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#8 Posted on 17.3.04 1509.22
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    Speaking of Detroit, they could get really screwed this year if the 8 Seed ends up being St. Louis. The Blues have the talent to put up a real tough fight in the Playoffs. I doubt they would beat the Wings but it'd be a tougher series then say Nashville or LA, who are seriously lacking in Playoff experience.


Yeah, no. Look I love my Blues and at the start of the season things were looking great but to be honest they just plain aren't very good this year. Not enough depth and (as usual) no consistant goaltending. Which pains me since all Blues fans hate the Wings, but oh well.

They fired one of the leagues best coaches and may miss the playoffs for the first time in what 25 or so years? If they back their way in, they'll likely get swept out quickly.

And how many more god damn years do we have to go before we get an actual GOOD goalie!!!!!!!!! Fuhr was old, Cujo falls apart when it matters most, Turek has mental problems and sucked, Johnson was a joke, and now Osbad. This is really getting old.
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#9 Posted on 17.3.04 1536.01
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Yeah, no. Look I love my Blues and at the start of the season things were looking great but to be honest they just plain aren't very good this year. Not enough depth and (as usual) no consistant goaltending. Which pains me since all Blues fans hate the Wings, but oh well.

    They fired one of the leagues best coaches and may miss the playoffs for the first time in what 25 or so years? If they back their way in, they'll likely get swept out quickly.

    And how many more god damn years do we have to go before we get an actual GOOD goalie!!!!!!!!! Fuhr was old, Cujo falls apart when it matters most, Turek has mental problems and sucked, Johnson was a joke, and now Osbad. This is really getting old.


Eh. If the regular season has taught me anything, it's that the regular season means squat. I agree that Osgood isn't the most proven playoff goaltender, but any team (even the Blues) could rise up and bite the Wings. Especially for the same reason you brought up ...

    Originally posted by wmatistic
    ...Cujo falls apart when it matters most...


Could happen again. Not like Wings fans here are expecting to coast through the 1st round again - especially with the Ducks debacle last year.

BTW, the "all Blues fans hate the Wings" thing makes me chuckle. I think you could phrase it "all (insert every other NHL team here) fans hate the Wings" and it would be accurate. That's what makes it so much fun for me to root for them.



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#10 Posted on 17.3.04 1549.15
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    BTW, the "all Blues fans hate the Wings" thing makes me chuckle. I think you could phrase it "all (insert every other NHL team here) fans hate the Wings" and it would be accurate. That's what makes it so much fun for me to root for them.


Well I dunno that they are that hated overall. Here we went through man it felt like four years or so of losing to them in the playoffs, plus having them pick up our old players(Shanahan, Hull). I think it really goes back to that year we went seven games and then lost in triple overtime. Ever since that day it turned from we don't like the Wings to MY GOD WILL SOMEONE KILL THOSE PRICKS! You know, the kind of anger where you hope someone would smash Drapers monkey face into the boards so he'd need to get it fixed again.
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#11 Posted on 17.3.04 1555.02
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I thought the memo went out that everyone's supposed to hate the Leafs. I'm confused.

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#12 Posted on 18.3.04 0727.02
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    Originally posted by The Goon
    I thought the memo went out that everyone's supposed to hate the Leafs. I'm confused.




I hate the Leafs, if that helps. Actually, it's more of a general apathy towards every team except the Avs, who I will always loathe (I'm sure the feeling is mutual, Broncolanche). However, considering wmatistic's comments on Draper, I may have to elevate the Blues to that lofty status as well. :)
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#13 Posted on 18.3.04 0748.13
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by fuelinjected
      Speaking of Detroit, they could get really screwed this year if the 8 Seed ends up being St. Louis. The Blues have the talent to put up a real tough fight in the Playoffs. I doubt they would beat the Wings but it'd be a tougher series then say Nashville or LA, who are seriously lacking in Playoff experience.


    Yeah, no. Look I love my Blues and at the start of the season things were looking great but to be honest they just plain aren't very good this year. Not enough depth and (as usual) no consistant goaltending. Which pains me since all Blues fans hate the Wings, but oh well.

    They fired one of the leagues best coaches and may miss the playoffs for the first time in what 25 or so years? If they back their way in, they'll likely get swept out quickly.

    And how many more god damn years do we have to go before we get an actual GOOD goalie!!!!!!!!! Fuhr was old, Cujo falls apart when it matters most, Turek has mental problems and sucked, Johnson was a joke, and now Osbad. This is really getting old.


I think that even if you pulled off a coup and got a front-line, grade-A, mack daddy goalie, something would happen. Some teams are just cursed to look 20 years for a position player. The Mets always need a 3rd baseman, the Dolphins went two decades looking for a running back until they finally found one, the Heat have needed a shooting guard since day 1 and never found one until they had to give up 2 quality, ascending players for a descending Eddie Jones (I'm STILL bitter about that one), the Maple Leafs can't keep anyone on the blue line, and the Blues can't keep a goalie running for more than a season tops.

Sad but true, friend.



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#14 Posted on 22.3.04 1614.58
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Not that it matters, but if the NHL had a 3-points for a win, 1-for a tie, NO overtime policy, the Northwest (?) division standings would look like this:

CGY 36-27-12 120 points
COL 30-20-25 115 points
VAN 27-24-25 106 points
EDM 26-27-22 100 points
MIN 25-27-22 97 points

...and the Flames would be in third in the West, so they would have home-ice advantage in the first round. (Of course, in the NHL that means you LOSE your playoff series, so maybe you should just hold off on sending those cards and letters to Gary Bettman just yet.)
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#15 Posted on 25.3.04 0855.30
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So if the info I'm reading is correct, the Flames magic number is now 2 1/2.

I think this entire city is holding its breath at the prospect of seeing some playoff action.
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#16 Posted on 25.3.04 1523.58
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Yep. 5 points by the Flames (or points not gotten by the Blues) gets them a playoff berth.

FLAMES GAMES LEFT:
Tonight: @ San Jose
March 27: vs. L.A.
March 31: vs. Phoenix
April 2: @ L.A.
April 4: @ Anaheim

BLUES GAMES LEFT:
Tonight: vs. Anaheim
March 27: vs. Chicago
March 28: @ Chicago
March 30: vs. Edmonton
April 1: vs. Detroit
April 3: @ Nashville
April 4: @ Minnesota
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#17 Posted on 29.3.04 0922.47
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I think it's pretty safe for Calgary at this point. Edmonton, Nashville and St. Louis will have a hard fight to the end for the last two spots.

Blues got lucky to have two against Chicago over the weekend, but now Nashville gets two against Chicago as well so they should make it in based on that but the other two games they have are against St. Louis and Colorado.

St. Louis plays a huge game against Edmonton Tuesday then ends with Detriot, Nashville(another big one) and Minnesota.

Edmonton plays St. Louis, Dallas and Vancouver.

From that I would say whoever loses the St. Louis vs Edmonton game will likely be the one out of the playoffs.
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#18 Posted on 29.3.04 1813.37
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Edmonton has the toughest schedule out of the three teams competing in the west. If they win against St. Louis then they have a real shot, but if they lose or even tie they may just run out of time.
I'm hoping as a Vancouver fan they can do us a favour and beat the Stars.
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#19 Posted on 1.4.04 0046.47
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FLAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS!!

I love that.
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#20 Posted on 1.4.04 0315.15
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    Originally posted by Omar Padilla
    FLAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS!!

    I love that.


And....by virtue of 20 sell-outs at the Saddledome (plus, at LEAST 2 sell-outs during the playoffs), the Calgary Flames are expected to turn a profit this year...after losing money for the past 5 seasons.
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