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The 7 - Hockey - Another Great Sutter Move: Flames Get Nieminen
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Freeway
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#1 Posted on 24.2.04 1647.43
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The Calgary Flames today traded center Jason Morgan and a conditional draft pick to the Chicago Blackhawks for left wing Ville Nieminen.

I think this is another great move by Darryl Sutter. Let's just show what he's done since being made Flames GM:
TO CALGARY:
D Rhett Warrener, C Steve Reinprecht, RW Matt Davidson, LW Josh Green, LW Krzysztof Oliwa, D Jesse Wallin, G Miikka Kiprusoff, LW Lynn Loyns, G Davis Parley & LW Ville Nieminen
TO ELSEWHERE:
C Steve Begin [Buf], C Chris Drury [Buf], Conditional 2005 Draft Pick (2nd or 3rd round) [SJ], Futures [SJ], C Jason Morgan [Chi] & Conditional Draft Pick [Chi]

Kiprusoff & Warrener have been fantastic. I'm still wondering how much of an impact Nieminen will have, but some new blood will help take the scoring load off of Iginla.
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#2 Posted on 25.2.04 0649.53
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If you think trading Begin was a good move, you should see him play with my Habs. He became a very popular player in Montreal with his hard body checks and his intensity.

Maybe that's why Montreal defeated Calgary last week :-)
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#3 Posted on 25.2.04 1433.55
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    Originally posted by Dave Gagnon
    If you think trading Begin was a good move, you should see him play with my Habs. He became a very popular player in Montreal with his hard body checks and his intensity.

    Maybe that's why Montreal defeated Calgary last week :-)


Steve Begin's Flames stats:
1997-98: Pointless in 5 games
1999-00: 1 goal, 1 assist in 13 games
2000-01: Pointless in 4 games
2001-02: 7 goals, 5 assists in 51 games
2002-03: 3 goals, 1 assist in 50 games

Begin was never more than a fourth liner who got third line duty when somebody got injured. He was a helluva checker, though, and was the Calder Cup MVP in the AHL when the Saint John Flames went the distance in 2001.
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#4 Posted on 25.2.04 1520.32
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Yeah, but I LOOOOVE intangible guys like Begin. To the Tom Fitzgeralds, Darcy Tuckers, Brian Skrudlands, Adam Graveses and Darren McCartys of the world, good morning glory and hallelujah to ya.

But I guess that's just me and the fact that I always liked the sparkplug players as much if not more than the superstar players. Probably because I had to be the scrappy type to do anything productive in youth league.

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#5 Posted on 25.2.04 2017.07
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Calgary's interesting...I never would have thought, but they're looking like they could be a challenge in the playoffs. Colorado hasn't looked all that great, and Calgary's the type of team that could cause some havoc. I wouldn't wanna be the 1 or 2 in the west and see either the Flames or Blues waiting on me in the first round.
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#6 Posted on 26.2.04 0207.14
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I think that the real interesting race in the 1-2-3 in the Northwest Division. Whoever finishes first gets one of the top two seeds, while whoever finishes second in the division ends up fourth and faces the fifth place team. What does this all mean? Well, there's two likely scenarios:

Colorado [1st in Div., 1st/2nd in Conf.]
Vancouver [2nd in Div., 4th in Conf.]
Calgary [3rd in Div., 5th in Conf.]
And Calgary plays Vancouver
OR
Vancouver [1st Div, 1st/2nd Conf.]
Colorado [2nd Div, 4th Conf.]
Calgary [3rd Div., 5th Conf.]
And Calgary plays Colorado

And for the record, the best "spare part" player EVER was Ron Stern.
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#7 Posted on 26.2.04 1455.22
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    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    Calgary's interesting...I never would have thought, but they're looking like they could be a challenge in the playoffs. Colorado hasn't looked all that great, and Calgary's the type of team that could cause some havoc. I wouldn't wanna be the 1 or 2 in the west and see either the Flames or Blues waiting on me in the first round.


My boss at work is a huge Canucks fan, and he's terrified that they might end up facing the Flames in the first round.

With the kind of fight that Calgary would have from being in their first playoff round in 68 years, added to the level of work that Sutter demands every game, plus Mikka still doing well, they're for sure one of those teams that could take the first couple games in a series without you even knowing what was happening.


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#8 Posted on 26.2.04 2051.29
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With maybe a veteran pickup, Calgary could be this year's Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.
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#9 Posted on 29.2.04 2228.18
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Aside from the Red Wings, the west is wide open so you never know, there may be another Anaheim waiting in the wings (no pun intended). Colorado can't beat anybody lately, and if you consider Calgary's goaltending, Nashville's recent hot streak, and St. Louis' talent on paper that conference really could go any number of ways.

Then again, with four points separating 1-6 in the East, you could say the same about both conferences.
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