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#21 Posted on 27.2.04 1316.54
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Didn't someones agent forget to do this last season too, or was that in a different sport?
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#22 Posted on 27.2.04 1325.45
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I read elsewhere that Anthony Carter had a similar problem with the Heat last year.
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#23 Posted on 27.2.04 1402.18
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    I read elsewhere that Anthony Carter had a similar problem with the Heat last year.


That's it. I was hoping I wasn't hallucinating it.
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#24 Posted on 27.2.04 1422.36
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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
      Originally posted by Broncolanche
      I read elsewhere that Anthony Carter had a similar problem with the Heat last year.


    That's it. I was hoping I wasn't hallucinating it.


Which worked out well for Miami in that they were able to wipe an ineffective (in Miami, anyway..he's doing a little better in San Antonio) overpaid player and were able to use that money towards trying to get Elton Brand and failing and eventually landing Lamar Odom, who is playing closer to his potential than in years past.
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#25 Posted on 27.2.04 1805.26
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I just want to thank you all for this thread. My newspaper subscription just ran out (I switched to weekends-only delivery), and I hadn't gotten into a rhythm of getting daily news off online papers. If I hadn't stopped in here, I would have missed this... this glorious just desserts. This is so funny that I'm almost feeling guilty having this much fun.
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#26 Posted on 1.3.04 2123.19
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ nfl/news/story?id=1748636

This seems a little unfair to me. The Niners might get an "extra" pick if they let T.O. go? What about rules? What about the team who gets screwed (pick #1 in Round 2)? And will the NFL do the same thing to the Brown and Dennis Northcutt? Why bend over backwards for Owens, but nobody else? Probable Answer: Owens said that he'd "get Johnny Cochran" on the case, and the NFL doesn't want anymore headaches from the main migraine producer in football today.
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#27 Posted on 1.3.04 2250.01
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Compensatory picks are very common in the NFL, they'd just get a higher one than normal.
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#28 Posted on 2.3.04 0957.53
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    Originally posted by Roy.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ nfl/news/story?id=1748636

    This seems a little unfair to me. The Niners might get an "extra" pick if they let T.O. go? What about rules? What about the team who gets screwed (pick #1 in Round 2)? And will the NFL do the same thing to the Brown and Dennis Northcutt? Why bend over backwards for Owens, but nobody else? Probable Answer: Owens said that he'd "get Johnny Cochran" on the case, and the NFL doesn't want anymore headaches from the main migraine producer in football today.


Every team that loses a free agent gets a compensatory pick based on their performance the following season. Generally the picks are anywhere from the end of the 4th to the 7th rouond. It will probably end up being a pick after the 2nd round. Upshaw just used a first round pick to open the negotiations.

This is why the NFL is in great shape. If it was baseball, the union would be kicking and screaming. The fact that they are willing to work towards a solution and use arbitration as a last resort shows how much the league and the players are willing to work together.
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#29 Posted on 2.3.04 1054.22
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I don't like this compensatory pick malarky. Whether the pick comes at the end of round 1 or round 6, evry team outside the 9ers gets diddled through no fault of their own.

If the league screwed up they should admit it. Pay compensation to TO and/or San Fran and move one.

If TO screwed up, tough shit sunshine. You're going nowhere.
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#30 Posted on 2.3.04 1407.17
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The Cardinals are the team that gets screwed.. of course they would screw up the pick anyway....

Seriously, it doesn't seem fair to make an exception for him due to the mix-up. Make the team that ends up with him give up their second round pick next year...
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#31 Posted on 2.3.04 1637.17
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    Originally posted by Java
    The Cardinals are the team that gets screwed.. of course they would screw up the pick anyway....

    Seriously, it doesn't seem fair to make an exception for him due to the mix-up. Make the team that ends up with him give up their second round pick next year...


They're not making an exception for T.O. They did the same for the Raiders a few years back for a player who's name utterly escapes me at present, and they may well do the same for the Northcutt situation.

Taking a pick of the team who picks him up doesn't solve the problem either. If its the leagues fault that he's not a UFA then why should the Eagles, Ravens or anyone else be punished for the NFL's mistake by losing a very valuable 2nd round pick? And why should T.O. see his market value be diminished as a result of circumstances outwith his control? Heck why should the 49ers gain out of a situation they did nothing to earn?

It really must be a black and white issue. Either the agent was informed and TO should be forced to see out his remaining 3 years, or he wasn't and he should be released. Chuck a few bucks San Frans way as compensation for the inconvenience but DON'T give them an advantage that hurts every other NFL team.
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