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#1 Posted on 23.2.04 2220.09
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The 49ers slapped the franchise tag on LB Julian Peterson, thus leaving T.O.'s future with the team in further doubt.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ nfl/news/story?id=1742151
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#2 Posted on 23.2.04 2227.19
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I think T.O. is in for a rude awakening on the free agent market. No sane team is going to give a receiver (unless its Rice in his prime, and even that's questionable) a $20 million signing bonus during the salary cap era. Particularly this year when there are 5 impact wide receivers in the draft.
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#3 Posted on 24.2.04 0616.23
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TO will be a Raven....just watch.
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#4 Posted on 24.2.04 1314.43
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    TO will be a Raven....just watch.



I will watch, I promise. Ill watch EVERY Ravens game just so I dont miss the inevitable moment when TO does something stupid and Ray Lewis BEATS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HIM.
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#5 Posted on 24.2.04 1330.46
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Well, there's something else as well...

There's a history of high profile free agent/traded wide recievers not producing in their new environment. I'm thinking guys like Alvin Harper, Keyshawn Johnson, Joey Galloway, Derrick Alexander, Peerless Price (so far), Curtis Conway, Az Hakim (albeit that was because of injury), Anthony Miller, Jake Reed, Yancey Thigpen and Rob Moore.

Exceptions to the rule: Jerry Rice, David Boston and Irving Fryar.
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#6 Posted on 24.2.04 1434.55
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    Ill watch EVERY Ravens game just so I dont miss the inevitable moment when TO does something stupid and Ray Lewis BEATS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HIM.
That's the only reason I have hope. Ray Lewis wants him in Baltimore, so it sounds like Ray will have no problem keeping him in line...
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#7 Posted on 24.2.04 1445.18
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
      Ill watch EVERY Ravens game just so I dont miss the inevitable moment when TO does something stupid and Ray Lewis BEATS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HIM.
    That's the only reason I have hope. Ray Lewis wants him in Baltimore, so it sounds like Ray will have no problem keeping him in line...


Besides, YOU try to say no to Ray Lewis.
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#8 Posted on 25.2.04 1430.49
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This is completely off topic, but last night on the NFL Network, they showed an NFL Films interview with T.O. Typical NFL Films stuff, except T.O brought in a guy to create a sculpture of him while the interview was going on. It's a very interesting visual-Steve Sabol sitting there, asking the usual fluff questions, Owens standing in front of him shirtless, while this sculptor is chipping away on his statue in the foreground.

Quite possibly the best interview EVER.
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#9 Posted on 25.2.04 2013.17
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    Well, there's something else as well...

    There's a history of high profile free agent/traded wide recievers not producing in their new environment. I'm thinking guys like Alvin Harper, Keyshawn Johnson, Joey Galloway, Derrick Alexander, Peerless Price (so far), Curtis Conway, Az Hakim (albeit that was because of injury), Anthony Miller, Jake Reed, Yancey Thigpen and Rob Moore.

    Exceptions to the rule: Jerry Rice, David Boston and Irving Fryar.


There's also a history of those guys going to teams that didn't make them the focus of the offense or didn't have the complimentary receivers that their previous teams did.

Harper: No Irvin on the other side

Keyshawn: Rush based offense with suspect QB

Galloway: Got hurt

Alexander: Where the hell did he wind up anyway? (sorry, drawing a blank)

Price: No more Eric Moulds and Doug Johnson at QB most of the year

Conway: Became #2 WR on a rush based team

Hakim: Went from the Greatest Show on Turf to the Lions...no mystery there

Miller: Another blank

Reed: No more Carter, no more Moss, no more Cunningham/Brad Johnson

Thigpen: Only really put up big #s in Pittsburgh once or twice...that was the exception, not the rule

Moore: Moved to Arizona and caught for 1500 yards...that's a drop?

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#10 Posted on 25.2.04 2117.46
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Thigpen ended up with the Titans ... He eventually hung it up because he kept getting injured.
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#11 Posted on 25.2.04 2315.09
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    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
      Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
      Well, there's something else as well...

      There's a history of high profile free agent/traded wide recievers not producing in their new environment. I'm thinking guys like Alvin Harper, Keyshawn Johnson, Joey Galloway, Derrick Alexander, Peerless Price (so far), Curtis Conway, Az Hakim (albeit that was because of injury), Anthony Miller, Jake Reed, Yancey Thigpen and Rob Moore.

      Exceptions to the rule: Jerry Rice, David Boston and Irving Fryar.


    There's also a history of those guys going to teams that didn't make them the focus of the offense or didn't have the complimentary receivers that their previous teams did.

    Harper: No Irvin on the other side

    Keyshawn: Rush based offense with suspect QB

    Galloway: Got hurt

    Alexander: Where the hell did he wind up anyway? (sorry, drawing a blank)

    Price: No more Eric Moulds and Doug Johnson at QB most of the year

    Conway: Became #2 WR on a rush based team

    Hakim: Went from the Greatest Show on Turf to the Lions...no mystery there

    Miller: Another blank

    Reed: No more Carter, no more Moss, no more Cunningham/Brad Johnson

    Thigpen: Only really put up big #s in Pittsburgh once or twice...that was the exception, not the rule

    Moore: Moved to Arizona and caught for 1500 yards...that's a drop?





Well, if Owens goes to Baltimore or Philly, are they going to have the complementary receivers on the other side? The top three wides for these two teams are garbage.
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#12 Posted on 26.2.04 0124.38
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If Owens goes to Baltimore, his production will drop, no doubt. You don't go from catching passes from Jeff Garcia with Tai Streets opposite to catching balls from Anthony Wright playing beside Marcus Robinson without a dip in your stats. With Philly, though, I think he could be in good shape. Pinkston and Thrash are decent WRs. Neither is a #1 guy, but together they're a solid 2-3.
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#13 Posted on 26.2.04 1307.57
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If Owens does go elsewhere, it'll have to be via trade because his agent screwed up.
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#14 Posted on 26.2.04 1334.28
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That is the funniest damn thing! You have to think they'll swing a trade or do something to ship his butt out.
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#15 Posted on 26.2.04 1337.56
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That is absolutely ridiculous. I could see somebody forgetting to file for Northcutt (especially if he has one of those agents like Tom Condon who has a billion clients), but to forget to file the papers for Terrell freaking Owens?! That agent should be fired AND he should have to pay Owens back for whatever his bill was for the past year.

-Jag

Unless this is somehow the fault of Owens and Northcutt, but that doesn't make much sense. What the hell do you have an agent for, if not to take care of this stuff?
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#16 Posted on 26.2.04 1339.48
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    That is the funniest damn thing! You have to think they'll swing a trade or do something to ship his butt out.








They don't have to if they don't want to. They can give him a lowball offer, he can hold-out, and then they can put him on the ineligible list and knock him off for the season. Wouldn't really hurt the 49ers, because they probably built plans around him not being on the team. Gee, this couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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#17 Posted on 26.2.04 1418.37
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      That is the funniest damn thing! You have to think they'll swing a trade or do something to ship his butt out.








    They don't have to if they don't want to. They can give him a lowball offer, he can hold-out, and then they can put him on the ineligible list and knock him off for the season. Wouldn't really hurt the 49ers, because they probably built plans around him not being on the team. Gee, this couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

No, they don't have to offer him anything. He's still got 3 years on his non-voided contract, and will count against the cap. He gets paid, just like Me-shawn was getting paid by the Buccaneers.

Given his comments, he's got to be gone (IMHO).
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#18 Posted on 26.2.04 1740.35
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Listening to the Dan Patrick show today, they had Chris Mortenson on, and he said that he found out about it after a team "on the East Coast, between Philadelphia and Baltimore" told him about it after they realized what was going on. They were trying to figure out if they wanted to tender him an offer. There is a market for him, but I know a lot of teams won't take him now (Eagles were slim in the first place, and I doubt Reid will give up a 1st rounder for T.O. now, anyways).
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#19 Posted on 27.2.04 0744.42
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I think you can look for TO to be traded after the draft ala Drew Bledsoe a couple years back. A team like the Eagles or Baltimore, who feel they are right on the cusp, would still get all their picks this year in a very deep draft and then trade next years #1 for TO to push them over the top.
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#20 Posted on 27.2.04 1155.16
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      That is the funniest damn thing! You have to think they'll swing a trade or do something to ship his butt out.








    They don't have to if they don't want to. They can give him a lowball offer, he can hold-out, and then they can put him on the ineligible list and knock him off for the season. Wouldn't really hurt the 49ers, because they probably built plans around him not being on the team. Gee, this couldn't happen to a nicer guy.


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