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#1 Posted on 22.2.04 1105.51
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PHILADELPHIA - The Miami Dolphins have acquired quarterback A.J. Feeley from the Philadelphia Eagles for a 2005 draft pick, according to a pair of published reports.

The Sun-Sentinel and the Philadelphia Inquirer reported the deal Saturday, with the Inquirer adding the Eagles will receive a second-round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.

Under NFL rules, the trade cannot become official until the trading period begins March 3, the same day as free agency. According to the Sun-Sentinel, the Dolphins are in the process of negotiating a new contract with Feeley, who was scheduled to become a restricted free agent.

The 26-year-old Feeley, a fifth-round pick out of Oregon in 2001, went from third-string quarterback to a fan favorite in Philadelphia when he replaced the injured Donovan McNabb and Koy Detmer and won his first four starts late in the 2002 season. The Eagles went 4-1 in their final five regular-season games that year with Feeley as starter.

According to the Sun-Sentinel, Feeley showed enough promise in his 2002 stint as starter that the Dolphins decided to pursue trading for him rather than waiting for other quarterback options such as the Washington Redskins' Patrick Ramsey or the Houston Texans' Drew Henson.

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#2 Posted on 22.2.04 1218.04
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Miami is giving up a #2 pick for Mr. McFeely? Are we positive Dan Marino isn't making the decisions down there?
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#3 Posted on 22.2.04 1742.41
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Feeley's young, and if he's as good as he was in 2002, I'd give up a second round pick for him.

This creates one hell of a situation for the Dolphins; now they've got THREE QB's with NFL experience, NONE of which have proven they can be very effective as starters.
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#4 Posted on 22.2.04 2143.54
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So I wonder if this deal for Feeley takes them out of the running to try and acquire Patrick Ramsey from the 'Skins.

While I thought Feeley did a great job in the 2002 filling in, I don't think he's a starter ... of course, I'm just some guy sitting behind a computer.
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#5 Posted on 23.2.04 0829.47
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This is not so much a step up for Miami so much as it is a cost cutting measure...they're $17M over right now, and they're looking to do a few things right now: 1) dump Fiedler and his $5.5M (yes they did pay him that much, thanks for asking), 2) either restructure Madison and his $8M or dump HIM 3) figure out who's replaceable with cheaper talent with no drop off in production (likely suspects: Bowens, Ruddy, Marion, Seau).

Feely isn't awful, but he's no better than Fiedler, and I think when he came into that 5-game stretch, I'm not sure how much was him and how much was the Phily defense playing over their heads feeling they had to carry the team until McNabb came back.

Of course, this doesn't mean they're not going to draft Losman or Rivers.

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#6 Posted on 25.2.04 1935.21
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A.J. Feeley has wanted out of Philly for a while now. He's wanted to start ever since he went 4-1 as a starter when both McNabb and Detmer went down (not that I blame him). I think the Eagles are making out best here. Feeley's a restricted free agent, and they would probably lose him, but with this trade they get some good compensation (a draft pick) and let's face it, Feeley wasn't ever going to start again. Even if McNabb's arm were to fall off tomorrow, Koy Detmer would be the starter, with Feeley being his backup. While that's probably not the smartest move (Detmer is mediocre at best, only occasionally showing flashes of brilliance) Andy Reid has his "system" no matter how messed up it might be.
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#7 Posted on 25.2.04 2000.07
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I'd take a stab at Feely if he comes cheap. Frankly, it wouldn't break my heart to see either Fiedler or Griese (or both) get dumped. Dumping Fiedler might ease the transition for Feely since it's clear that Griese is the backup only, and I believe Fiedler is earning more money.

Any of those other guys Blanket listed could go and I wouldn't be too heartbroken, but Sam Madison has to stay. Top notch corners are harder to find than linebackers with heart or run-stuffing tackles.
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#8 Posted on 26.2.04 0802.40
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This is a great deal for the Eagles. Feeley is nowhere near ready to be a starting QB in the NFL. His throwing motion and mechanics need a lot of work. Watching Miami next year is going to be fun because this will be a mess.

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#9 Posted on 2.3.04 1008.10
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So much for getting rid of Fiedler...what was that definition of insanity again? Something about doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results?

[source: The Miami Herald]

The Dolphins ended a flurry of moves over the past five days by coming to terms with quarterback Jay Fiedler on a restructured contract, extending the contract of defensive end Jason Taylor and reaching a standstill in talks with offensive tackle Todd Wade.

The Dolphins ended up about $8 million under the salary cap after extending qualifying offers for restricted free agents, such as Pro Bowl defensive end Adewale Ogunleye, and their exclusive-rights players.

The moves on Fiedler and Taylor were the most significant, clearing more than $5 million in cap room. Fiedler received $800,000 guaranteed, reduced his base salary to $2.9 million and deferred a $2 million option bonus that was due in April to 2005.

Fiedler's return gave the Dolphins at least one experienced quarterback going into next season. A.J. Feeley, whose trade from the Eagles is expected to be finalized Wednesday, has only five career starts.

Taylor did far more for the Dolphins' cap -- and the Dolphins did far more for him -- as he agreed to a three-year contract extension that cleared about $4 million in cap room.

The deal puts Taylor, 29, under contract through the 2009 season. The new contract is worth $45 million over the next six seasons, including nearly $10 million guaranteed next season, according to an NFL Players Association source.

Gary Wichard, Taylor's agent, declined to discuss the new contract Monday.

As for Wade, he is all but a lock to become a free agent. Tom Condon, Wade's agent, said talks weren't moving on Wade's deal. Two weeks ago, Condon asked for a five-year, $25 million deal, including a $10 million signing bonus. The Dolphins countered at substantially less.

''They don't seem to feel that the right tackle position is worth that type of salary right now,'' said Condon, who added that he hadn't spoken with the team since Friday and that Wade likely will become an unrestricted free agent.

Over the past five days, the Dolphins have reduced their salary cap by about $25 million in anticipation of free agency, which begins Wednesday.

The team also must extend qualifying offers to each of its four restricted free agents. Ogunleye received the highest offer possible. The one-year, $1.824 million offer gives the Dolphins the right to match any deal he signs with another team or receive first- and third-round picks if they don't match.

The Dolphins also could negotiate with another team for less compensation and work out a sign-and-trade deal for Ogunleye.

Agent Drew Rosenhaus said Monday he expects Ogunleye to draw interest from several teams, although it might not be immediate because of the draft compensation. Seattle, which has the No. 23 overall pick, is expected to make a run at Ogunleye.

The other three restricted free agents for the Dolphins are running back Travis Minor, linebacker Morlon Greenwood and quarterback Sage Rosenfels. All received qualifying offers of $628,000 for one year. That would give the Dolphins the right to match or get a draft pick equivalent to their original draft round.

Minor and Greenwood were third-round picks in 2001. Rosenfels was a fourth-round pick.

The Dolphins have two exclusive-rights players -- running back Leonard Henry and offensive lineman Greg Jerman. Henry received a one-year offer for $305,000. Jerman received a one-year offer for $380,000.

That's $4.395 million in qualifying offers. In reworking the contracts, the Dolphins have guaranteed more than $20 million for the likes of Fiedler, Taylor, Bowens, Mare and linebacker Zach Thomas.

Free agency officially begins Wednesday. The Dolphins are expected to go after offensive linemen, such as Damien Woody of New England, Chris Villarial of Chicago and Cosey Coleman of Tampa Bay.

The Dolphins informed special teams ace Trent Gamble, who is recovering from a knee injury suffered last season, that he will be cut.

Wide receiver Derrius Thompson agreed to a minor restructure of his contract.
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#10 Posted on 2.3.04 1126.40
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From an Eagles perspective this is a great deal. We ship a guy who was never gonna get much playing time barring injury and get a high pick in return.

When Feeley had his run the overwhelming reason we kept winning was the D, and I'm prety sure we won at least a couple of games in that stretch scorin only 12 to 14 points.

He could turn out to do a Delhomme and revel in the starting role at Miami but I have my doubts. Like waldo says, the guys got pretty obvious flaws and I've a hard time believing that this move is anything other than an attempt to create cap room.

And if Ricky thought he saw 8 men in the box a lot THIS year......
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#11 Posted on 2.3.04 1144.59
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    Originally posted by dMr
    And if Ricky thought he saw 8 men in the box a lot THIS year......

I think I've said that everywhere BUT here the last week or so.

But of course, Miami being Miami...this'll be the year when NO ONE expects them to do anything that they'll do something.
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#12 Posted on 2.3.11 1514.52
This guy sucks. Who they need is Carson Palmer, who wants out of Cinci (for sure), but not football (my guess)

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