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#1 Posted on 20.2.04 1854.51
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Now this is funny.... to me, at least.

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#2 Posted on 20.2.04 1900.24
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"Peeance Freeance"? I've never heard that one before. Amusing.

Bite me once... Shame on you. That was always my favorite.

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#3 Posted on 22.2.04 0347.11
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I listen to this and I think on how Dean was basically undone by his scream because it didnt look or sound "Presidential." But you can fill a couples hours worth of TV with some of the moronic things Bush has said. Thats why Ive never been anamored with him since he first appeared as a candidate in 1999, He just doesnt seem that smart to me. I dont even see that air of cunningness that I can see in all politicians. Like there is something they know that you dont. Some might see that as a bad thing, but I dont mind my leader having that killer instinct behind the big smile.
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#4 Posted on 22.2.04 0353.37
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Here's my working theory on Bush....you know how Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both had idiot brothers that embarrassed them politically? George Bush is that idiot brother who somehow got elected instead of smarter brother Jeb, who though I don't agree with his politics, at least appears to have a working brain.
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#5 Posted on 22.2.04 1158.20
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    I listen to this and I think on how Dean was basically undone by his scream because it didnt look or sound "Presidential." But you can fill a couples hours worth of TV with some of the moronic things Bush has said. Thats why Ive never been anamored with him since he first appeared as a candidate in 1999, He just doesnt seem that smart to me. I dont even see that air of cunningness that I can see in all politicians. Like there is something they know that you dont. Some might see that as a bad thing, but I dont mind my leader having that killer instinct behind the big smile.

That's too funny because I feel the same way about the guy. A lot of top politicians are pricks and do stuff you don't agree with but the good ones have a cunningness or a slyness to give you a load of bullcrap but convince you that it's good for you and I'm not saying that's a good or bad but it is a quality that the good politicians have to make people not totally despise you.

Bush doesn't have that ability at all, he comes off as so insincere to anyone who's not 100% behind him which is such a main reason that I personally not seen a U.S president so despised around the world & even in his own country. I've seen U.S presidents get picked on & not liked but never seen the intensity of heat that Bush gets... The thing is, he doesn't seem to care. This guy kind of lives in a concrete dome and not caring about anyone else thinks. A good example is the Halliburton thing. He was getting alot of heat by forcing himself into Iraq, alot of people thinking he went there for the wrong reasons. He keeps responding they are there for the right reasons & everyone who's criticizing him are so out in left field & without merit. Then just days later he gives the Iraq oil contract to his buddies at Halliburton which makes everyone say "Coooome on, your not even trying"
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#6 Posted on 28.2.04 1945.17
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Here's my working theory on Bush....you know how Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both had idiot brothers that embarrassed them politically? George Bush is that idiot brother who somehow got elected instead of smarter brother Jeb, who though I don't agree with his politics, at least appears to have a working brain.


Ya know, I have this feeling that before the elections, Dubya is gonna try his 'dogone' hardest to outdo Dan Quayle and win the 'Most Stupidest Politician in the White House' award...
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#7 Posted on 29.2.04 0042.46
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    Originally posted by Cerrita
    Ya know, I have this feeling that before the elections, Dubya is gonna try his 'dogone' hardest to outdo Dan Quayle and win the 'Most Stupidest Politician in the White House' award...
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#8 Posted on 29.2.04 1547.01
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Oh, come on, CRZ. Have you heard some of the things that have come from his mouth? Half the time I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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#9 Posted on 29.2.04 1636.59
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    Originally posted by Cerrita
    Oh, come on, CRZ. Have you heard some of the things that have come from his mouth? Half the time I don't know whether to laugh or cry.


As AWA can testify to, I am not a "W" suporter. However, every person that much in the limelight says stupid things. It's inevitable and human. I agree that "W" isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he isn't an idiot. Many people's strongest suit isn't public speaking, especially when having to speak off the cuff.
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#10 Posted on 29.2.04 1852.48
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Daddy Bush tripped over his own tongue in exactly the same way as W, so maybe it's genetic. My husband often searches for words or comes up with very strange malapropisms ("mukluk" for "yarmulke"). In his case at least, it's not related to IQ. But it's still pretty funny.

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#11 Posted on 29.2.04 2135.26
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I agree that it's inevitable to mix up your words a bit when you're the constant center of attention but to screw up as much as he does on a regular basis is ridiculous. It would be nice if our president could speak english properly because it not only makes him look stupid, it also makes all of us U.S. citizens look stupid.
For examle, here are a few things he's actually said:

"I understand small business growth. I was one."
"I think we agree, the past is over."
"More and more of our imports come from overseas."
"They misunderestimated me."
"Our priorities is our faith."
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

More like, Is our president learning? I think not.
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#12 Posted on 29.2.04 2208.49
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    Originally posted by BethezdaBDemented
    I agree that it's inevitable to mix up your words a bit when you're the constant center of attention but to screw up as much as he does on a regular basis is ridiculous. It would be nice if our president could speak english properly because it not only makes him look stupid, it also makes all of us U.S. citizens look stupid.
    For examle, here are a few things he's actually said:

    "I understand small business growth. I was one."
    "I think we agree, the past is over."
    "More and more of our imports come from overseas."
    "They misunderestimated me."
    "Our priorities is our faith."
    "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

    More like, Is our president learning? I think not.



And when someone is as well-spoken as you want, we tend to distrust them even more. We say we want the brightest, but when we get them we have a tendency to mistrust them.
"W" isn't my chioce for president and I don't agree with his policies, however, I do believe he is trying his best and there certainly have been much worse Presidents.
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#13 Posted on 29.2.04 2305.19
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I personally don't tend to distrust someone because they are well-spoken; I rather appreciate it. I find when listening to someone speak like a moron their speech is much less effective. Sometimes the point of the speech is entirely lost. Besides, trust is something that is earned. Bush hasn't earned my trust and it doesn't really have anything to do with the way he speaks. Perhaps he is trying his best but his best is just not that great. There have probably been worse presidents but I can say that I haven't seen a worse president in my lifetime yet. I just hope things improve, especially if he is re-elected. That's just my opinion.
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#14 Posted on 1.3.04 0010.15
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This is why I cannot wait till the Debates between Bush and Kerry/Edwards. If they do it right they could flatten him. Thats whats makes me pissed with Gore to this very day. IMO opinion Gore gave that election away at the debates. he knew the material Backwards and forwards, but he just came off like a complete prick. Bush played up being a nice down to earth guy and I think thats what won it for him. This is where I think Edwards could be a better candidate than Kerry, I think people wouild feel more comfortable with him, he seems like a nice guy. And being a nice guy can get you elected.
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#15 Posted on 1.3.04 0237.34
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    I do believe he is trying his best and there certainly have been much worse Presidents.


Name one.
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#16 Posted on 1.3.04 0304.22
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I'd say William Harrison comes to mind, given he died of pneumonia after only one month in office because he gave the longest inauguration speech in a snowstorm.

So I'd say it's a toss up between Bush and Harrison.

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#17 Posted on 1.3.04 0912.40
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    Originally posted by BethezdaBDemented
    I agree that it's inevitable to mix up your words a bit when you're the constant center of attention but to screw up as much as he does on a regular basis is ridiculous. It would be nice if our president could speak english properly because it not only makes him look stupid, it also makes all of us U.S. citizens look stupid.
    For examle, here are a few things he's actually said...


    Originally posted by BethezdaBDemented
    I personally don't tend to distrust someone because they are well-spoken; I rather appreciate it. I find when listening to someone speak like a moron their speech is much less effective. Sometimes the point of the speech is entirely lost. Besides, trust is something that is earned. Bush hasn't earned my trust and it doesn't really have anything to do with the way he speaks. Perhaps he is trying his best but his best is just not that great. There have probably been worse presidents but I can say that I haven't seen a worse president in my lifetime yet. I just hope things improve, especially if he is re-elected. That's just my opinion.


In general, if you are going to criticize someone for not speaking proper English, I would at least write said criticism in proper English. It is far easier to write in proper, grammatically correct English than to speak it.

In sum, the irony of your post is delicious.
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#18 Posted on 1.3.04 1020.12
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    Originally posted by The Atomic Tomato
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      I do believe he is trying his best and there certainly have been much worse Presidents.


    Name one.


Coolidge
Harding
Garfield
Andrew Johnson
Polk
Tyler
Van Buren

The great thing about our system of government is that we can survive less than stellar leaders.
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#19 Posted on 1.3.04 1230.18
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James K. Polk was not only a great President, but actually stuck to a term-limit pledge. That alone makes him one of our best in my opinion.

You left out Herbert Hoover and Richard Nixon, which are generally considered two consensus "bad" Presidents. Nixon kind of falls into the same boat as Clinton for me though - i.e. they were good except for that whole "breaking the law" thing. I'd also put William McKinley on that list (the inventor of the "lets make up a bullshit excuse to go to war" method of Foreign Policy). Combine that with the fact that he was also a complete tool of the robber-barons, and I think you've got the President Jr. takes after the most. Time will only tell who screwed up our country more.

Van Buren inherited a bad economy, and why the hate for Tyler?

(edited by MoeGates on 1.3.04 1335)
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#20 Posted on 1.3.04 1237.32
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    James K. Polk was not only a great President, but actually stuck to a term-limit pledge. That alone makes him one of our best in my opinion.

    You left out Herbert Hoover and Richard Nixon, which are generally considered two consensus "bad" Presidents. Nixon kind of falls into the same boat as Clinton for me though - i.e. they were good except for that whole "breaking the law" thing. I'd also put William McKinley on that list, as well as Grover Cleveland (the inventor of the "lets make up a bullshit excuse to go to war" method of Foreign Policy).

    Van Buren inherited a bad economy, and why the hate for Tyler?

    (edited by MoeGates on 1.3.04 1332)


I pretty much agree but Van Buren was a shill for the New York political machine. My real point is we have had plenty of lousy Presidents. Nixon is a real conumdrum. He accomplished some incredible things that were overshadowed by his paranoia. Grant falls into that category of actally accomplishing some real good but having it overshaodowed by the bad.
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