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#1 Posted on 18.1.04 2119.38
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Should be a great matchup two weeks from now.

Congrats to the Pats, and HOOOORAAAAAY for the Panthers.

And... introducing Jake Delhomme, now featured at the left side of your screen. He's not Manning. He's no McNabb. Hell, he's not even Kurt Warner. But he's going to the Superbowl. Yeah, baby.


-Jag

Can you tell I'm happy? Cause I AM!!!
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#2 Posted on 18.1.04 2132.03
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Congrats Jag!

Despite the Pack not going, I won't piss on anyone's parade. It's a fun feeling as a fan when your team finally makes it.

Enjoy...and hopefully they'll hit the right numbers for me to take home some money from my quasi-legal office pool.

Good Luck in Houston
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#3 Posted on 18.1.04 2208.34
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    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Should be a great matchup two weeks from now.

    Congrats to the Pats, and HOOOORAAAAAY for the Panthers.

    And... introducing Jake Delhomme, now featured at the left side of your screen. He's not Manning. He's no McNabb. Hell, he's not even Kurt Warner. But he's going to the Superbowl. Yeah, baby.


    -Jag

    Can you tell I'm happy? Cause I AM!!!



Yes it should be a great game, and let me introduce you to Tom Brady (no pic available yet). He's not any of those guys listed either but he went through the NFL's co-MVP's to get to the Super Bowl.
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#4 Posted on 18.1.04 2220.41
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Oh I know all about Tom Brady. The formerly unknown quarterback who guided his team to win the Superbowl two years ago... over the formerly unknown quarterback Kurt Warner who won the Superbowl two years before that.

Needless to say, I'm rooting for history to repeat itself here. But I won't be too disappointed if the Pats take it (as long as it's not a blowout).

-Jag

Oh and anybody in Philly who blames this loss on McNabb is a complete idiot. He was playing a good game up until the rib injury, and even then he tried to gut it out. It's not his fault that Philly has crap for wideouts.
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#5 Posted on 18.1.04 2229.48
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No kidding about those wideouts. I knew they were dropping lots of balls, but I didn't realize how many, and how many potential yards, until they ran every drop back-to-back on NFL Primetime. The clips ran for almost a full minute.

Inexcuseable.
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#6 Posted on 18.1.04 2233.44
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    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Oh I know all about Tom Brady. The formerly unknown quarterback who guided his team to win the Superbowl two years ago... over the formerly unknown quarterback Kurt Warner who won the Superbowl two years before that.

    Needless to say, I'm rooting for history to repeat itself here. But I won't be too disappointed if the Pats take it (as long as it's not a blowout).

    -Jag

    Oh and anybody in Philly who blames this loss on McNabb is a complete idiot. He was playing a good game up until the rib injury, and even then he tried to gut it out. It's not his fault that Philly has crap for wideouts.


I agree 100%. McNabb wasn't the problem. Plus what was with the Philly defense's poor excuse for tackling on the Carolina TD run?

(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 18.1.04 2334)
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#7 Posted on 18.1.04 2238.37
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New England has been installed as an early 7-point favorite.
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#8 Posted on 19.1.04 0007.15
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New England is going to win the Super Bowl.....Carolina is like Patriots Junior League, whereas NE have perfected the 'tough defense, smart offense' style of football.

Cry me a river, Philly fans.
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#9 Posted on 19.1.04 0012.00
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#10 Posted on 19.1.04 0046.01
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A bunch of people on some other site have been trying to get me to shut up about Tom Brady. To them, I say this: I will shut up about Tom Brady being the best quarterback in the league when he loses a big game. A playoff game. An overtime game. A game that the Patriots have to win.

I will shut up about Adam Vinatieri being the best kicker EVER when he misses a big kick in a big game. A playoff game. An overtime game. A game that the Patriots have to win.

Tom Brady has NEVER lost a playoff game, and he's going to his second Super Bowl. Name one other player, never mind QB, that has done that.
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#11 Posted on 19.1.04 0223.39
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Look, I'm all for the love the Pats are getting but saying that Tom Brady is the best QB in the league is downright offensive to the legacy of Favre. I don't even like the Pack but Favre is the motherfucking man.

Vinatieri is not the best kicker ever. Statistically, he's not even the best kicker of this season. According to the stats page on NFL.com, he was the 9th best kicker in the league. He was 25 of 34 when kicking field goals. His longest was 48 yards (good but not exceptional), and he scored 112 points (just barely making the top 10 in scoring among kickers). Talk to me when Vanderjagt misses a kick period.

Brady is just one man. His receivers, while not spectacular, are more than adequate for the type of offense the Pats run. Brady was 6th in the league in passing yards, 10th in the league in passing touchdowns, and 10th in the league in passer rating. He didn't lead the league in even one major category. I'm happy for you that you're excited about your team making the Super Bowl, but don't come around with bullshit takes where you make Brady out to be the second coming of Montana.

Edit: And by saying that Brady shows up when the Pats "have to win" is just inane. When do they not have to win? Apparently they didn't have to win at Buffalo or at Washington this year. By the definition of sport, every game is a "must win". You don't play to lose. All I'm saying is don't blow your horn too soon. The Panthers have a legit defense the likes of which hasn't been seen by the Pats in this post-season.

(edited by Kidbrooklyn on 19.1.04 0333)
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#12 Posted on 19.1.04 0249.10
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    Originally posted by gugs
    I will shut up about Tom Brady being the best quarterback in the league when he loses a big game. A playoff game. An overtime game. A game that the Patriots have to win.Tom Brady has NEVER lost a playoff game, and he's going to his second Super Bowl. Name one other player, never mind QB, that has done that.


While that might be true, riddle me this Batman, where was he last postseason? Or are BIG GAMES only scheduled every other year?

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#13 Posted on 19.1.04 0747.52
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While as a Packer fan, I have to bow at the altar of Favre ('cause I rememer his mediocre-to-awful predecessors: Majkowski, Blair Kiel, Randy Wright, David Whitehurst, Rich Campbell, Lynn Dickey), I have to give Brady props for getting the job done, and not throwing a HORRIBLE jump ball for the only play of overtime. Yeesh. Ol' Tom might be the most effective QB in the NFL right now.

As a tribute to my Boston-born roommate and coworker, I'm all about the Pats this postseason (as soon as the Pack jobbed out...dammit.) Hell, I'm even wearing this shirt (FinishLine.com) right now:

(image removed)


And that's the first non-Packers NFL piece of clothing I've ever bought for myself. Now that's karma...Let's Go Pats.
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#14 Posted on 19.1.04 0814.36
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
      Originally posted by gugs
      I will shut up about Tom Brady being the best quarterback in the league when he loses a big game. A playoff game. An overtime game. A game that the Patriots have to win.Tom Brady has NEVER lost a playoff game, and he's going to his second Super Bowl. Name one other player, never mind QB, that has done that.


    While that might be true, riddle me this Batman, where was he last postseason? Or are BIG GAMES only scheduled every other year?




The same place St. Louis was last year and the same place the Jets and Giants are this year.

You can say it's the Pats defense and/or its coaching but this part is true; NE has had guys in and out of the lineup all year due to injuries (Colvin and Patten gone for the year; Washington, Johnson, Brown, Seymour, McGinest, Vrabel, etc... missing various amounts of games) but the one constant has been Brady.

(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 19.1.04 0919)
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#15 Posted on 19.1.04 0827.10
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    Originally posted by Jaguar
    Oh I know all about Tom Brady. The formerly unknown quarterback who guided his team to win the Superbowl two years ago... over the formerly unknown quarterback Kurt Warner who won the Superbowl two years before that.

    Needless to say, I'm rooting for history to repeat itself here. But I won't be too disappointed if the Pats take it (as long as it's not a blowout).

    -Jag

    Oh and anybody in Philly who blames this loss on McNabb is a complete idiot. He was playing a good game up until the rib injury, and even then he tried to gut it out. It's not his fault that Philly has crap for wideouts.


Oh, you wouldn't believe how many so-called fans are starting to do this already.

What doesn't help is Andy Reid's stubborn insistence on "I need to put them in better situations" garbage. Granted, as pointed out by the announce team, the Panthers have already handled two top flight receiving groups (Dallas and St. Louis), but Thrash, Pinkston, and Chad Lewis aren't going to cut it as championship calibur No. 1 receivers. I wasn't too high on the possibility of Terrell Owens coming here, but antics and all, this team needs someone like that, who's not going to let himself get pushed around by defensive backs for four quarters, and who will yell at his fellow receivers if they do. And this morning, I read an article where Reid says "They didn't run wrong routes" WTF?! Then what was Pinkston doing on that slant route where he cut off and then ran an out, that led to one of Manning's INTs?

There's no excuse this time around, either. Duce Staley and Bobby Taylor aren't going to be resigned, and Troy Vincent has only a slightly better chance of being brought back. They have the money, and other than linebacker, they don't really need to upgrade anywhere else (that they can't do via the draft). I love the Eagles, but if they don't do something to deal with their most glaring weaknes -- at wide receiver -- they're going to strongly make me reconsider investing time in them next year, because it's going to be the same result.

Edit: Despite all that, congrats to the Panthers, and to Ricky Manning, jr. in particular. He talked trash about the Eagles' wideouts earlier in the week, and it ain't bragging if you can do it.

(edited by shockdown on 19.1.04 0633)
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#16 Posted on 19.1.04 0833.52
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Hopefully, the national media will realize that while a good QB, Donovan McNabb is not a great QB. A great QB can have his offense score more than 13 points in 2 NFC Title games at home. And of course, what's the difference between Donovan McNabb and Danny White? At least Danny could punt.
As a NY Football Giants fan, watching this game is slightly painful, as it will feature the 2 defensive coordinators who have led the Giants to the Super Bowl. Perhaps the Giants should have realized this when going for a head coach and looked at a defensive mind rather than an offensive one.
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#17 Posted on 19.1.04 0947.26
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Hopefully, the national media will realize that while a good QB, Donovan McNabb is not a great QB.
That's right folks, Rush was right and he is overrated? Go figure!
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#18 Posted on 19.1.04 1041.50
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Nothing makes me happier as a lifelong Redskins fan to see the Eagles choke once again. Congratulations, guys! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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#19 Posted on 19.1.04 1043.22
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    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
        The same place St. Louis was last year and the same place the Jets and Giants are this year.




      Well, I was just pointing out how insane it is to talk about how great a QB is, and how he wins EVERY GAME THAT THE PATS "MUST" WIN, when they didnt go to the playoffs last season. As a Giants fan, I realise we suck this season. But, next season if they do great, I wont be on here talking shit about Kerry Collins being the greatest QB when the past season he was unable to make the post season.
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#20 Posted on 19.1.04 1108.22
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Sometime late in the second half Detmer threw a ball over the middle to Thrash. Thrash easily could have caught the ball by taking one step to the right, but he looked over saw Mike Minter a few steps away. Rather than laying himself out and catching the ball he made a feeble attempt to reach out and grab it and the ball fluttered into the turf. I believe on the replay Chris Collinsworth called it "disgraceful." I couldn't agree more.

The Panthers defensive backs dominated that game and by the time the second half rolled around the Iggles wideouts were terrified of them. New England has their hands full in two weeks, should be a great game.
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