Aldo D 2112
Goetta Level: 37
    Posts: 104/302 EXP: 334042 For next: 4214
Since: 21.4.02 From: West Palm Beach, FL
Since last post: 2049 days Last activity: 1878 days
| AIM: | |
| | | Y!: |  |
|
| #1 Posted on 2.1.04 0904.47 Reposted on: 2.1.11 0907.27 | Okay, so we have a thread predicting RR winners... what about who ends up getting the Diesel push? (i.e. throwing out the most guys before being eliminated by some fluke)
My vote goes to the Undertaker, assuming they plan to bring him back as a surprise entrant at the RR. Although knowing the WWE lately, this role may end up going to A-Train or Matt Morgan. (sigh) | Promote this thread! |  | JoshMann
Andouille Level: 86
    Posts: 174/2159 EXP: 5914374 For next: 227757
Since: 17.11.03 From: Tallahassee, FL
Since last post: 1775 days Last activity: 1772 days
| AIM: | |
| | | Y!: |  |
|
| #2 Posted on 2.1.04 0949.20 Reposted on: 2.1.11 0949.24 | | Either Morgan or Batista I'd think. | Swordsman Yen
Frankfurter Level: 55
    Posts: 734/745 EXP: 1304336 For next: 9862
Since: 16.2.02 From: Shaolin
Since last post: 3420 days Last activity: 3403 days
| #3 Posted on 2.1.04 0950.40 Reposted on: 2.1.11 0952.17 | | I think Mark Henry is probably going to get that since they've been giving him the monster push lately. | CANADIAN BULLDOG
Andouille Level: 83
    Posts: 1055/1962 EXP: 5309545 For next: 122699
Since: 5.3.03 From: TORONTO
Since last post: 28 days Last activity: 27 days
| | ICQ: | |
| |
| #4 Posted on 2.1.04 1122.17 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1123.43 | I say Kane. Forget that he's had it before, and he doesn't really need it to advance his issues with The Undertaker, AND the guy's already pushed to the moon -- he'll still get it.
I think he'll start tossing bodies early on and be eliminated near the end when The Undertaker, or at least his eerie music, appears. I wrote all about it here as part of how I'd book the next three PPV's, if anyone's interested. | This Is Just Wrong
Linguica Level: 19
    Posts: 51/70 EXP: 34376 For next: 1401
Since: 17.12.03 From: Toronto
Since last post: 3365 days Last activity: 3310 days
| #5 Posted on 2.1.04 1326.56 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1327.29 | Here are my picks:
1) Big Show...they always like to keep him strong 2) Batista - still relatively unknown and soon he'll be pushed hard...if HHH takes some time off in 2004 3) Cena - people still havent gotten into him as a serious act and i think a strong showing at Rumble would do it | BigDaddyLoco
Scrapple Level: 121
    Posts: 1394/4570 EXP: 19924949 For next: 131805
Since: 2.1.02
Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 13 hours
| #6 Posted on 2.1.04 1633.14 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1634.25 | Here are my picks:
1) Big Show...they always like to keep him strong 2) Batista - still relatively unknown and soon he'll be pushed hard...if HHH takes some time off in 2004 3) Cena - people still havent gotten into him as a serious act and i think a strong showing at Rumble would do it
Batista, hands down. The guy is only really over by association and he needs this if he is going to be the next WWE monster. Taker will probably toss him in the later stages of the match.
If the Big Show is in the match he will probably be near the end and most likely will get pushed out by a posse after throwing out a guy or two.
I can't see Cena staying in any longer then 10-15 minutes. | madiq
Boerewors Level: 40
    Posts: 162/359 EXP: 407506 For next: 33807
Since: 27.7.03 From: Brooklyn, NY
Since last post: 1778 days Last activity: 1771 days
| AIM: | |
| | |
| #7 Posted on 2.1.04 1714.12 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1714.31 | | Matt Morgan. Little known fact is that Batista was in the Final Four of last year's Rumble. I don't think it'd benefit Batista that much to start tossing guys to make a name for himself (because Evolution is doing that for him), but "M-Train" Matt Morgan needs something to make him less generic... | BigVitoMark
Lap cheong Level: 75
    Posts: 756/1509 EXP: 3679502 For next: 147419
Since: 10.8.02 From: Queen's University, Canada
Since last post: 2860 days Last activity: 2770 days
| | ICQ: | |
| |
| #8 Posted on 2.1.04 1724.16 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1725.27 | It'll be Batista, no doubt about it. Matt Morgan's going nowhere, and given that he's being positioned in a feud with A-Train, I think they realize it. Neither guy even got on Smackdown this week. Batista, on the other hand, is being pushed near the top of the card, which not only makes it much more likely that he'll get the push but it makes a lot more sense that way too.
Then again, a few years ago they gave it to Road Dogg, so you never really know... | Shem the Penman
Toulouse Level: 70
    Posts: 565/1266 EXP: 2900401 For next: 115425
Since: 16.1.02 From: The Off-Center of the Universe (aka Philadelphia)
Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 4 days
| #9 Posted on 2.1.04 1907.57 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1908.08 | | Benoit. I can't really buy into the scenario where Benoit comes in at #1 and wins the Rumble, but giving him a good long run is the next best thing. | Freeway
Scrapple Level: 108
    Posts: 1543/3496 EXP: 13329642 For next: 190901
Since: 3.1.02 From: Calgary
Since last post: 219 days Last activity: 42 days
| AIM: | |
| | |
| #10 Posted on 2.1.04 1936.55 Reposted on: 2.1.11 1939.05 | | Either Cena or Benoit. One of them will win, and the other will get the Diesel push. | T.i.O a B.m.F
Mettwurst Level: 29
    Posts: 61/177 EXP: 139288 For next: 8598
Since: 25.10.03 From: T.i.O in U.s.A
Since last post: 3324 days Last activity: 3323 days
| #11 Posted on 2.1.04 2028.21 Reposted on: 2.1.11 2029.01 | Originally posted by Swordsman Yen I think Mark Henry is probably going to get that since they've been giving him the monster push lately.
No remeber that Henry is gonna ask Bischoff for his favor on RAW. I have a feeling that favor will be number 30 in the Rumble. | The Atomic Tomato
Pinkelwurst Level: 13
    Posts: 14/27 EXP: 8248 For next: 2019
Since: 6.12.03 From: Hazleton, PA
Since last post: 3371 days Last activity: 3371 days
| #12 Posted on 2.1.04 2054.05 Reposted on: 2.1.11 2055.31 | I think the Diesel moment belongs to one of the following: Batista, Matt Morgan, Bradshaw or A-Train, with Hardcore Holly being the outide chance.
If I had to pick one out of those, I would go with Morgan due to his youth and size.
I'm fairly sure it won't be Kane, as he's already had his Rumble Diesel push. | Freeway
Scrapple Level: 108
    Posts: 1544/3496 EXP: 13329642 For next: 190901
Since: 3.1.02 From: Calgary
Since last post: 219 days Last activity: 42 days
| AIM: | |
| | |
| #13 Posted on 2.1.04 2055.18 Reposted on: 2.1.11 2057.14 | Originally posted by The Atomic Tomato I think the Diesel moment belongs to one of the following: Batista, Matt Morgan, Bradshaw or A-Train, with Hardcore Holly being the outide chance.
If I had to pick one out of those, I would go with Morgan due to his youth and size.
I'm fairly sure it won't be Kane, as he's already had his Rumble Diesel push.
So? Back in the day, Hulk Hogan or the Ultimate Warrior got the Diesel push EVERY YEAR. Either them or (GASP!) Diesel did. | The Atomic Tomato
Pinkelwurst Level: 13
    Posts: 15/27 EXP: 8248 For next: 2019
Since: 6.12.03 From: Hazleton, PA
Since last post: 3371 days Last activity: 3371 days
| #14 Posted on 2.1.04 2100.26 Reposted on: 2.1.11 2100.36 | True. Fear of repitition has never stopped McMahon in the past.
Personally, if it were given to me to book, I'd give it to Shannon Moore. Mix it up a little bit by giving it to a cruiserweight. | This Is Just Wrong
Linguica Level: 19
    Posts: 52/70 EXP: 34376 For next: 1401
Since: 17.12.03 From: Toronto
Since last post: 3365 days Last activity: 3310 days
| #15 Posted on 2.1.04 2215.34 Reposted on: 2.1.11 2216.40 | Originally posted by The Atomic Tomato True. Fear of repitition has never stopped McMahon in the past.
Personally, if it were given to me to book, I'd give it to Shannon Moore. Mix it up a little bit by giving it to a cruiserweight.
The thing about Shannon is that they're trying to make him a sympathetic babyface but all i see from fans at Smackdown is apathy. They're trying to make him a Spike Dudley-type underdog and its not working.
You have to consider McMahon's love of hosses. Hence, Morgan or Batista would be the best bet but more Batista, who seems to have a greater upside than Morgan. | BigVitoMark
Lap cheong Level: 75
    Posts: 763/1509 EXP: 3679502 For next: 147419
Since: 10.8.02 From: Queen's University, Canada
Since last post: 2860 days Last activity: 2770 days
| | ICQ: | |
| |
| #16 Posted on 3.1.04 1148.09 Reposted on: 3.1.11 1148.47 | I don't see how you can believably give Shannon Moore the Diesel push, since he's just to little to be dominating and tossing people around like that. I could see them giving him the Rick Martel push, where he keeps hanging on and lasts in the Rumble forever, leading all the way to a huge blindfold match at WrestleMania with Jake Roberts.
As an aside, isn't Kane reported to be in the RR title match, thus making him ineligible to receive the Diesel push again? | Above Average 1
Salami Level: 32
    Posts: 29/213 EXP: 188567 For next: 17877
Since: 27.4.03 From: Nova Scotia Canada
Since last post: 99 days Last activity: 1 hour
| #17 Posted on 3.1.04 1208.22 Reposted on: 3.1.11 1211.04 | | I'd like them to give to someone like Christian, or Matt Hardy. Just have them do commintary, until someones holding somebody else over the ropes, and then they sneak up and eliminate both, then go right back to commintate until somebody else can be easily eliminated. | BigVitoMark
Lap cheong Level: 75
    Posts: 772/1509 EXP: 3679502 For next: 147419
Since: 10.8.02 From: Queen's University, Canada
Since last post: 2860 days Last activity: 2770 days
| | ICQ: | |
| |
| #18 Posted on 3.1.04 1259.48 Reposted on: 3.1.11 1302.23 | Either Christian or Matt Hardy would be a waste. I'm a fan of both guys, but neither one of them is at the stage where they're a Rumble win away from being a credible challenger to the world title. They'd be seen much the same as Maven was two years ago when he got his title shot against Jericho because he was never "officially" eliminated from the Rumble...it was a neat angle and made for a good match, but even the most oblivious mark in the crowd knew there was no way the title was going to change.
I'm in favour of pushing Christian, and I'm in favour of pushing Matt Hardy. The problem is if you give them too much out of nowhere it's not believable and all you get is a wasted Royal Rumble rather than a new elevated star. If you're going to elevate someone with a RR win it should be a guy who needs that final push to really get to the top, not a guy who desperately needs something to build on. | The Vile1
Lap cheong Level: 78
    Posts: 397/1694 EXP: 4362169 For next: 20076
Since: 4.9.02 From: California
Since last post: 1495 days Last activity: 1227 days
| #19 Posted on 3.1.04 1517.09 Reposted on: 3.1.11 1518.00 | | I think Matt Hardy had a pretty good showing at the Royal Rumble last year. I think he lasted about half an hour and his spots with Shannon Moore throughout the match were hilarious and great. I don't think Hardy will get that kind run this year, since about a year ago he was about to hit his peak on the smackdown roster at the time. | The Atomic Tomato
Pinkelwurst Level: 13
    Posts: 16/27 EXP: 8248 For next: 2019
Since: 6.12.03 From: Hazleton, PA
Since last post: 3371 days Last activity: 3371 days
| #20 Posted on 3.1.04 1918.45 Reposted on: 3.1.11 1920.43 | Originally posted by BigVitoMark I don't see how you can believably give Shannon Moore the Diesel push, since he's just to little to be dominating and tossing people around like that. I could see them giving him the Rick Martel push, where he keeps hanging on and lasts in the Rumble forever, leading all the way to a huge blindfold match at WrestleMania with Jake Roberts.
I was thinking they could have a scenerio where three or four wrestlers are trying to eliminate a big man (say, for example, A-Train). These wrestlers have him off the ground. Shannon is on the opposite side of the ring, beaten to the mat. Shannon sees an opportunity and runs full speed into the pack, who are all hanging part way over to get Train out, and pushes them all over the top.
Then, flash the camera to Moore, who is so beaten up that he can hardly stand. The next three or four opponents beat the hell out of him, but by some fluke, he always manages to get them over the top rope before the next one comes out (example, if the next guy were Mysterio, he could be going for the 619, Moore could slide aside and pull down the top rope sending Mysterio sailing out).
I would sell him pretty hard. I'd have him last to the final four, but then be eliminated by John Cena, with JR saying something along the lines of "He gave it a valient effort, blah, blah, blah". After that, they could do a storyline where Heyman is genuinely impressed with Moore and tries to lure him over to his camp as their cruiserweight representative. Moore fakes a heel turn, only to attack Heyman. Next week, Moore is given a cruiserweight title shot, and is about to win when Paul London runs in and screws it up. Heyman and company walk out and Heyman announces: "I'd like to indroduce you all to the newest member and cruiserweight division representative of Team Lesnar, Paul London". From there, London and Moore feud, culminating in a match for the Cruiserweight title at Wrestlemania (either a triple threat or a four-way involving Rey and Tajiri). Moore could walk away with the win, and the next Smackdown, Heyman could sponsor a battle royale to determine the number 1 contender to the cruiserweight belt.
Just an idea... |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |